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Hi there everyone.
I am 34 years old, funny and confident and social. I live in the Netherlands.
My reason here is because I want to try and win a girl back. Need her to trust me again and try and win her over from the beginning.
So this is pretty much it; Happy pheroing everyone!
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As for your problem… hmm, seems that by the way you put it, you did something to erase that trust coming from her end. Now if you are serious on winning her back, you only need to show her that you are man enough to admit your mistake, hear her side, bravely move on the available road/s after this episode, and to commit not the same mistake ever again.
You need to have a long serious talk with her. Its the only way you can do everything listed above in one sitting.
Based on what’s being reported around, Ammo and IH and IS i think might help you with the good vibes and serious talk. But the outcome will always be judged by her, depending on how really serious you are on her judge-o-meter.
You may consider wearing a314 oil also, specially if you want a LTR with her. Serious A314 users has reported that A314 is a superb molecule for sealing LTR deals. The trust and respect it emits will certainly put a tattoo on your forehead saying “this is the man”. 
You may wanna look for more posts and report about these molecules around the forum to dig and deepen your understanding. Consider it the first part of your journey towards winning her back.
But. Always be ready for the option 2. If there is a zero chance for you to win her back, then I suggest you move on. With pheromones on you. After all, a lost opportunity is a newfound opportunity, if you know what I mean. A lost chance is a new chance.
There’s always a reason to smile.
Well my research so far and advice from mobocaster led me to choose a fallout mix made of A314 oil / IH / P74.
The problem is that this girl is actively avoiding me, so if we have any interactions it will be just for a couple of seconds each time. Would this mix have any impact in such a short time ? Would the addition of something like ammo or tuth give it a kick, or is a sexual counter-intuitive at this point ?
The combo you got from mobo’s advice is the most correct one: p74 to put her in a happy and socializing mood, IH to influence her to open up, and a314 for her to sense that you are a man worthy of trust. If everything puts into place this is the best combo.
What you need is extra patience. This is a hunting game you’re in with a very delicate prey, a hurting girl with heightened senses against a perceived predator. You are that predator. What you need to do is to make her stop seeing you as the harm-bringer.
Use that combo even if she’ll be seeing you for a couple of seconds. The importance here, given the fact that she already have made some conclusive decision regarding you, is to leave a new imprint of ‘you’ in her senses. And those impression (helped by mones) will make her think over the conclusion she’d drawn regarding you.
Also, the combo above, might even make her pause, and consider talking to you for another couple of minutes and more, depending on how hard it will impact or affect her. If she bites, then boom! Talk. If she didn’t, at least she’s hooked.
And so, you need to be consistent on what you wear (otherwise, you’ll break that hook) everytime she’s around, and make sure she’ll have a good sniff of the mones, its the only way to affect her. Imagine future possible interactions with her and from it, think of the best body parts of yours to apply the mones. Choose those parts where you can easily make her sniff off the mones: neck, wrists. Spray the IH away from your nose, and swipe some of the a314 under your nose for the selfie.
You don’t need sexuals right now I think because the issue at hand here is not the sexual attraction, rather its the rapport and trust. And besides, because of your past, I don’t think she’ll easily be duped by some sexuals and attractants. Because I think she still knows and see you as attractive, but unfortunately for you, her concern now is if she can trust you still.
Now I suggest also that instead of thinking and rethinking of the sexuals and the possibility that it may make her return to your embrace quicker, you should focus on the things you’re going to say to her, commitments to declare, and deep love to profess, to make her believe that you are indeed worthy of a second chance. This is your part, and this is what you should be preparing.
Lastly, just like any other predator, if a prey escaped, find another target.
Happy pheroing!
Thank for all the info. The main theme here is that we met and fell in love while I was in another relationship. We were together for 2 months and I tried to break up but couldn’t during christmas. Then I came back and told her I want to be friends for now and she was heartbroken. After 1 month of that I broke up. During this month she was still showing interest. She seemed happy when I broke up, then changed her mind.
Also her roommates talk against me a lot, which she admitted after asking her… Also we had plans to go to a party. She then told me that she would be there anyway and I got a bit upset about it, told her off and stormed out. This is where things got bad afterwards…
Oh man!
Seems that in her point of view, you can’t be trusted indeed. And based on your shortened story, I think I will have the same judgement if I am the girl. The only consistent thing you’ve shown her is breaking up when a new option is available. Also, you’ve shown some low on the patience side of the field. You see, patience, trustworthyness, and maturity are actually on the top of the list of what’s-hot for girls. Next is security and comfort. Looks and sexual aspects are part only of the first impressions so you can’t rely on both when dealing with a girl who actually has an intimate knowledge on your looks and attractiveness.
The first option you have now is to try. And so I will stand by with my recommendations above. And don’t act as if she is still your gf now. She might see you as an arrogant pig who thinks full of himself. So if some plans don’t materialize, never show her your frustration, because technically, for her, you don’t have the slightest right.
Otherwise, always consider and be open for option 2, move on and look for other direction and prospect, and this time, make all things right.
Hey there,
A fellow dutch guy in the forums! Hallo daar
I gotta say that I have encountered the most obvious hits with Ammo. Girls looking at me like something strange just passed by, and they just cannot pinpoint what exactly. For short kicks I think that pheromones do work, but you gotta be very lucky with them. Its that I know what to look for when people pass by, but most of the time I just don’t notice anything special. Even my girlfriend could act pretty normal and it would just be very hard to grab her attention using mones alone.
That having said, the fallout mix suggested by Mobo does work if you can hold her attention for a couple of minutes. Just make sure you keep her attention, blurt out some things about the mistakes you have been doing, that you really like her, that you just cannot think properly anymore, that you want her, and just ask why her roommates don’t like you? I have been roommates with someone who had a “potential” fling on their hand, and we were initially wrong about their relationship. Basic principal of my group was: “kick the guy out when a drunk girl comes home with a stranger”. Got that guy out of the building, like some guards watching over the princess. Poor dude had to walk 4 hours in the snow back home and we had to listen to a girl who was feeling sad about it… Couple of weeks later they were in a pretty serious relationship, and she did not come home drunk afterwards anymore.
Although it sounds pretty harsh, I would say this: Either try to get the girl back, or admit defeat. There are plenty of fish in the sea, and I know how hard it is to find that perfect girl, but if her roommates are more important than you, she will go for the roommates. Tough luck for her, tough luck for you but that is how life goes unfortunately. Don’t try to glue something that is already broken, either try to win her heart in the next months, use the pheromones to your advantage and if it does not work, go for someone else. Love makes blind, I know… I have been in that situation many times before. But eventually you have to make a choice, and the toughest choice is always “do you keep trying?”
The other factor to consider is that IH/P74 together in a mix seem to act in a synergistic way that makes much more of their individual qualities and bonding potential - Throw A314 into the mix and its trust/confidence-inspiring status is similarly reinforced - even on short exposures.
And this is the key here - you are not going to be able to sweep her off her feet on a single exposure, so you need to choose something that will hopefully get under her skin and into her head over repeated exposures, without the impact of blunt-force None. That comes-into play when you have piqued her curiosity about you again and she starts wanting more than brief meetings - And it needs to start coming from her now, you can only present the signature and give her the chance to pick-up and run with it.
Thanks guys for all the advice. Just having you on my side is a great help, even if I can’t her back. Anyway I haven’t contacted her for about 3 weeks so I am holding up pretty good here… Met some more girls this time who are interested, this always helps but the truth is I am not over her yet and don’t really care about hooking up with anyone right now… And I am starting to think that I was a catch for her (as she was always saying) and it will be her loss. I mean I did break up for her, of course it tool me some time, but if she can’t see the good in that (not the typical asshole who breaks over the phone, etc…) then it’s her problem not mine…
Having said that, I still want to try and be with her. Call my a hopeless romantic, but I think that not having tried is much worse than crashing and burning. At least I will know we had a failed relationship instead of what-might-have-been, which is something I can let go more easy than any regrets.
In two months time we will be moving to another country for 6 months or more, maybe this can be something of a fresh start. Provided that I can see her and she is not completely avoiding me. I have the feeling that completely avoiding me means that she still has lingering feelings that are best left undisturbed. So much tension and infatuation doesn’t just go away that easy… Maybe I am just hoping here but still… Seeker you know better than me how Dutch girls are… Independent and so… But there were time when she would completely forget her independence and be totally hang up on me. Love makes fools of us all I guess…
Yep, I know how Dutch girls are. That is why I have a Turkish girlfriend 
But yeah, Dutch girls are pretty hard to get. They like to be really independent, feminist and stuff, and when the time comes they want you to be the guy in the house… But I think you can get over it. Show her that you still like her, and use the pheromones to let your sweet voice and smell linger… That worked really well with my girlfriend it seemed 
Well she wasn’t hard to get, we really liked each other and did not play any games at all. And the thing is I really liked her independence, it was one of the things that made me fall in love with her. But now she believes her independence would be a problem because of this stupid incident were I got upset… Hard to convince her otherwise now…