gonna send her a talking stuffed animal with my voice reminding her I KNOW she still loves me and i miss her
planning on spraying with some pheros and then covering with her fave cologne she bought me
what you guys think? gonna spray pheros night before…may wipe a bit of my sweat on it and air it out
then next day spray it with her fave Armani
my hope is that she associates my voice with the phero…im considering ammo+npa
Couldn’t really say as I don’t know her personality, but if I did that with any girl, the voice message alone would piss her off and/or creep her out. But like I say, I don’t this girl.
yeah maybe i should tone down what i say…leave it at “im thinking of you”
Sometimes I wish being the hopeless romantic, old-fashioned gentleman worked.. But all the girls I’ve acted like that towards ended up taking me for granted and expecting my kindness at their disposal 
It could go either way though. If it works, its likely to make her fall for you deeply. If not, it’s likely to scare/push her away. But sometimes they’re worth the risk, so you’re the only one who knows that! 
Good luck!
I am quite literally speechless! 
well…i plan to have it delivered with a candy apple and some candy sticks and a card right before valentines…with a “will you be my valentine” type card…i am NOT expecting her to respond…maybe even get a little pissed…but we had 2 1/2 years intensly sexual relationship until new years so she shouldnt think im a creep…yet
i know if i COMPLETELY forget v-day that would be “potential re-conciliation suicide”…i wont do flowers though…too over the top when she isnt my GF now…nor is it appropriate…hence the “WILL YOU be my valentine?” card
just a little gift bag with the talking stuffed animal and card and candy apple (she LOVES apples and LOVES elephants so i picked talking elephant to hit a personal note)
the pheromones im hoping helps a little when she hears my voice…she may listen to it a few times and toss it in the trash…but the “sig” may imprint there
and i will have delivered earlier in morning so even if she IS mad she will think about it ALL DAY…just trying to be creative
then i will totally leave her alone after that…i already sent flowers/gift last week for her bday
i will let her miss me for awhile haha
Girls like guys with a spine
The best thing to do is to not be there and not be so attached. That’s what makes a girl I terested in you. We are programmed to feel densitised to emotions since they do cause chemical reactions in the brain. When you stop giving her that drug, her sensitivity goes up and wants you. You know when you don’t eat junk for a week and crave it or don’t touch urself for a long time, and you really want to? Same thing. Same reason why drug addicts have to get more of their drug to feel it. You will never satisfy, you will only further push her away. We are biologically programmed to go after guys/girls who have options.. The alpha females and alpha males. Be the alpha male and show you have options.
well she wrote me a long email about “maybe in the future but not now”…and told me she didnt want to see me until shes done being real pissed at me for ALOT of things i did wrong…i have to concur with her
i still plan to send the stuffed elephant (she LOVES elephants so it hits a personal chord) and just plan to record “just letting you know someone out there loves you and knows what YOU LOVE, ME…i think it would FEEL GOOD to know that dontya think?”
persuasive words…im not good at voice commands yet but im working on it…she will listen at least 3-4 times before getting pissed and chucking it away or putting in her car…key words being YOU LOVE ME, FEEL GOOD and an agreement…i will deliver BEFORE v-day
i plan on rubbing my nutsack all over the elephant and spraying a squirt of TUTH for sexual feel and squirt of chikara for chill,trust vibe…
i also plan on returning a book to her and some certificates that she left at my house in december to emphasize “im giving you back some stuff”…i picked out a vday card which was about “sometimes we dont realize whats important” theme…will sign it “sorry for anything i did, and more sorry for the things i DIDNT do…take care”
i know when you “finalize” with a girl it gets them kinda whacko…but that cant be helped…gonna have delivered in AM with candy apple and vday sweetheats in vday bag…maybe even a little balloon on a stick…but NO FLOWERS
IF she ever decides to meet up soon i plan on using the pheromones…maybe TUTH with alter ego…we have a lot of sexual history…i hope to peak that interest…maybe even get a hug that turns into a make-out section and if she tries to come over i gotta be adamant about TURNING HER DOWN
id probably run hands on her…get hard…breath hard…then back off and tell her how i really want to BUT ii have to think hard on it and she needs to go home and do the same…ive done this MAN times on mones…works like a charm…they usually call back and pledge their lives to you a few days later…women really step it up in the face of rejection instead of sulking away like us men…that is of course if our meet-up happens and goes well
i noticed many times pheromones wont exactly work on your ol lady (or ex-ol lady) but if you go somewhere where there is alot of women they notice the other women noticing…gets em EVERYTIME
Dude, no, don’t do that. You’re really gonna lose her if you do that, judging by her email. Just back off and let her do what she wants - have space and let things possibly rekindle in the future. Otherwise, she’s gonna see you as a desperate beta-male who can’t stand on his own feet. Women hate desperation.
PS - If she knew how much effort you were going to, she wouldn’t be flattered, she’d probably get a restraining order. Don’t mean to seem harsh, but I’m trying to save you from making a huge fucking mistake.
You’re not ‘finalising’ with her. You’re showing her that you have no options, and that you’re at her beck and call whenever she can simply be bothered with you. In reality, if you do this, she’s long gone. Life’s not a romantic movie, people don’t respond how they do in the movies.
Edit: In short - people desire what they can’t have. If this girl knows she can have you at any given moment, she won’t desire you. Imagine you have a full tin of biscuits in the cupboard. You eat some, get full, and leave the rest for when you want more.
Then, you go on a diet, and there are no biscuits there, because you’re not allowed them.. You want them more, because they’re no longer there, and you can’t have them! I know, it’s a random analogy, but I’m sure it makes my point..
Dude you don’t get it. You are trying waaaaaaayyyy to hard. Wow. It’s funny because I’m in an semi broken up relationship kinda like this and I could really take my own advice. Stop being a pushover with all due to respect to help you and just cut all ties. There’s no getting back together. Ever. As long as you have that attitude.
I say this becauS I care. Tough love is what it’s called. Stop being so.. Open to her. Sheesh dude just hearing you would turn me off if I was a girl. People don’t want to be smothered, it’s a big turn off. Biggest one ever.
Please just close the book and let this girl go.
Just reading this makes me want to run away yikes.
Really Dude? That is hilarious , wrapped up in scary, with a good dose of disturbing. Tell me you are joking, please..
you guys are right
the pheros will be better used getting the attraction of other girls
she will probably notice that more…if she wants to see me again then she does…if she dont she dont
and IF i do get her to meet up with me i guess i will forget about 5 squirts of TUTH and use something more friendly with maybe ONE squirt of TUTH
i dunno what i was thinkin…yeah the more space i give her right now the better my chances are of her missing me…IF she ever does
damn its hard to let almost 3years go down the drain
On this occasion, don’t use pheromones to get the girl. You have 3 years of history, let things happen naturally by giving her space, but at the same time, don’t go running back at the first opportunity. By all means, and I actually recommend, go clubbing with pheromones and try pull a few other girls. By the time you’re finished relaxing and having fun, you may well realise that you’re better off without her - which personally, I think you are!
I know we may have all come across as abrupt and straight to the point, but its tough love. We’re all here to help!
actually im not…she was GOOD to me but i had alot go wrong with me and i succumed into a depression and didnt give her the attention she needed…further more i complimented or talked about other girls all the time and not her nearly enough and sometimes held others as more important…just want to redeem myself because she treated me awesome until i drove her away
but yeah i agree on the 'mones being better on other girls than your S/O…i will start a new thread to tell of a few past experiences
Hey,
I know what you have been through, and I know how hard love can be. Reason why I started using pheromones, because the girl I loved for over 7 years was actually getting less and less interested in me. In the end, she told me to let her go… I realised then that if I was less of a jerk and lapdog I had to grow up, and be a better guy. Really happy I found the A314, and since then it has been going better. Was originally going to her today, but work messed up my devious plan and now she is alone for valentine’s day.
What I do know is when to quit. When she writes you a long letter telling you that she does not want to see you anymore, then its better to grab whats still on the table and leave. Its like gambling… You get a lucky streak, you lose a bit, you start to lose a lot, and before you know you are begging with your family for money.
What we are trying to say here is that you should know when to quit trying. Eventually you have to understand that it just won’t work, and then you need to get over her and find someone else. If she really loves you, then she will get annoyed and come back to you, but if she is not… Well, at least you got a new girlfriend who really understands you. I have been through countless romantic dates and romances, and my first ex-gf still tries to send me messages… Which I find utterly annoying. I don’t feel anything for her, but she apparently still is. In all those years, she never had another boyfriend because she could not get rid of me in her head. We want to prevent you from getting into a “stalker”. If she loves you, you will know… If she doesn’t, well, that’s bad luck for her. It sounds like you are a really loving boyfriend, but you need to be less clingy and more manly 
Its not that there aren’t mones that might help you - Its just that these particular mones and your method of delivery is almost certainly going to fail badly - in the most demeaning and potentially creepy/needy way. Esp if she’s told you she doesn’t want to see you - I’ve seen guys end-up under restraining orders for much less!
The best thing you can do now is to step right back from her - cut all contact altogether - or at least keep it to the bare minimum for practical stuff only and concentrate on rebuilding your self respect/identity away from her and stop looking for redemption/validation on her terms.
At the same time, you should also look to do the basic work of finding your sweet spot/dose range with these mones, then expand your horizons a bit and explore some of the bonding/reconnecting/relationship promoting combos (notably IS/IH, IH/P74, P96 and depending on her age, A314 or maybe IG) and frankly, enjoy some other female company without the pressures of a relationship before you begin to consider even the possibility of getting back in touch with her - That way, a recovered/repositioned attitude, a better perspective overall and an interesting new phero signature might work better together towards your goal.