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Hey everyone,

I’m msl582 and this is my first post here. I’ve been reading through the forums pretty much constantly for a week. Most of my internet time lately has been on this site and I find it absolutely fascinating! Just the science of it and progress that has been made over the years has me hooked.

I am in my late twenties and have experimented with an exclusively -none product which was my intro to pheromones and that lead me to this forum. I was very happy and surprised at the effects this had on me. Prior to learning about social skills (game some may call it), I was very timid, shy, and kept to myself. Even after getting better with interpersonal skills I was still very peaceful and not one to rock the boat. Due to learning social cues I am very tuned in to subtle body language, tonality, mental, and physical signs from others and myself. So I could really tune into the effects the -none had on me. I was very pleased with the slight increase in aggressiveness and confidence the -none gave me and still use that product as it’s quite inexpensive yet I think very effective. Though maybe less advanced than the products here?? Oh and one other thing, I found it weird until I read others experienced this on this board, but when I started wearing the -none product, lots of chics bend over right in front of me so I can see right down their shirts. It happens quite a bit and I find it funny anymore, plus who doesn’t like a little boobage =)

I have a girlfriend at the moment, but if it were to ever end, I have complete confidence in myself to go out and meet new girls and have plenty of options and choice in that area. This is due to years of going out and working on my social skills. I came from very poor social skills and no experience with women to where I am now, which I am proud of.

I am most interested in the self effects like confidence and being more alpha. My weakness is dealing with other men who are very alpha. I also have no qualms in saying I love attention and validation from the opposite sex and am curious as to how pheromones will enhance that. I do get a good amount of interest from other women, though I feel insecure sometimes because my girlfriend gets hit on constantly when we are out, and I feel being a man we don’t get that kind of validation as often even if a girl is interested, as it is usually up to us to initiate interactions. So I am interested to see if pheromones can help in that department. Also, I feel girls see me as long term relationship material and would like a little more edge to my personality if that makes sense.

A couple questions

  1. Hearing my story, I am planning on using the gift certificate (if I qualify) towards probably three different products. What would you recommend. I am pretty well versed in the different products after spending hours reading about them, but am still not sure what to go with. And I fully know pheromones work from trying -none. What three would you recommend for confidence, alpha-ness, and sexual attraction/approachability from women.

  2. What do you find is the greatest benefit that -mones have given to you in your life?

Thanks, it’s good to be here, seems like a lot of great, kind, and helpful people on this forum. I look forward to sharing my experiences with pheromones!

Take care everyone and thanks in advance for your help!

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One thing I wouldn’t go without is A314… for me it boosts my confidence even more and it makes you seem like the alpha male to others… this can make others a bit more distant from you though so I usually like to pair it with a social like IO or IH to make people comfortable to come up to me… the greatest benefit mones have given me is my confidence and ‘game’… I’m not a huge ladies man or anything but i’ve much improved since starting to use products on this site… and everyone here it crazy helpful too!
welcome and have fun
let us know how things go.

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Well I must say that you have a very good writing style msl582! You’ve probably got the best intro post I’ve ever seen on this site! Kudos!:smiley:

I’m obviously younger than you but I too was shy and had almost ZERO knowledge about girls but I got out more and became better at it, I’m not all the way there yet but I’m definitely better off!

My advice for products are:

A314: this IS ALPHA. it will portray the exact vibe you’re looking for and as long as you act the part you’ll find yourself getting more respect than usual. I use to be a quiet type but when I wear this it really just allows me to stand out and be that “Leader”. Wearing A314 will give you both confidence AND alpah. It also is subtely sexual and women with high standards(ALPAH women) will find you more attractice so this product is very well rounded.

Instant Honesty: This is probably one of the most obvious pheros because it’s effects are just unbelievable. You literally won’t believe the things people will tell you when you have this on. Combine this with Instant Openess and you’ll have a woman blabbing every detail of her LIFE. When I wear this around my girl of interest she just talks and talks and talks, and the great thing about Instant Honesty is that it allows you and the person to bond.

Turn Up The Heat: does exactly what it says, BUT you need to only wear this when you believe sex is possible. The none in this baby can get you ghosted or beaten up if you use too much or use it in the wrong place so be careful. But with the right girl and the right situation it will spark her inner animal.

Now for a good recommended mix:

A314: 2 drops to each side of the neck
Instant Openess: 2-4 sprays on the arms
Instant Honesty: 2-4 sprays on the back of the neck

I’ve used this mix with good results so I’m sure you’ll be pleased with it as well. You can add ONE spray of turn up the heat if you’re in an intimate encounter but I wouldn’t go over that.

Also, be sure to take a break from pheremones so people don’t get used to them. A314 can be worn almost daily but everything else you might want to use sparingly(especially Turn Up The Heat).

Oh and for your question on what pheros have done for me: I’d say they’ve given me a LOT more confidence with women and they’ve also given me a new hobby! If you hang around and report on this forum you’ll find it very addictive to be here. I can’t get enough of this place!:smiley:

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Hi Lethalchead,

Thanks for the quick reply! I am very interested in A314, although seeing that some people say that it is fatherly, and serious kind of has me questioning. At first I was sure I was going to buy that one, but now not sure. I am very interested in all the instant products.

Maybe a little more info about my personality would be helpful, I see others have given more detail than myself.

I am a good looking, tall, fit guy. I occasionally have girls tell me I am hot - mostly when drunk at bars. Though way more often, I will meet girls through my friends or sister or whoever and they will tell me that this new girl told them she was into me and sometimes I am surprised because it doesn’t seem like it in person. I know a lot about fashion and have found my own style that suits me really well, I like to describe it as hip, slightly rockstar, look like I don’t care, but it still well put together and everything goes. Somewhat rugged with a five oclock shadow, bed head hair.

Until the last part of college when I found out about game and social skills and that they could be improved, I was super shy, high anxiety, very self conscious, and lacked any self confidence whatsoever.

I am now in a relationship with a super sexy woman and feel very confident in my game. Although some of my younger characteristics come out of the woodwork now and then. This gives people the sense that they can sometimes walk all over me and women see me as the attractive, lover, poet, introspective type as opposed to the confident leader and sexy man.

I’ve noticed physically that I am usually the one to move out of the way if I am passing someone in a tight hallway or sidewalk, and feel like sometimes people do not pay attention to me or dismiss what I am saying, like I am invisible. This happens pretty much always when other very confident and alpha men are around. These guys always tend to hit on my girlfriend in front of me too which is annoying. I lack confidence in group settings socially as well. Am not good with a lot of eyes on me such as public speaking. However, if I am one on one with a girl, say on a date or just me and her I know that I have the skills to get her super into me.

I mostly get rejected right from the start, once I get a girl hooked or to meet up on a date it is a done deal. Granted I don’t persue other women at the moment as I am currently in a relationship. Getting the initial interest and hook is a struggle for me. Even though I know women are attracted to my looks. Also getting people to listen to me is another big weakness especially in groups and at work.

Edit: K-Train, just noticed you replied as well. Thanks for the help. I appreciate the kind words on my writing style. I love to write as a hobby and hope to make money doing it someday. I don’t know why but from reading this forum, your avatar always stuck out so I clearly recall your posts being very helpful and informative.

The way you describe A314 makes it sound awesome. As said above I was concerned about it being to serious and fatherly without any sexuality to it, but from what you said this is entirely wrong.

Maybe IH and IO would be excellent for me as I find people never really open up to me until they know me well, and it seems to get to that point I am the one who has to put in all the work and initiating of conversation. I would like others to put in some work. Also often I go out with my friends and it seems like they just meet someone new and it’s like they have known each other forever. I would like to have this effect as well.

I am also curious about instant gentlemen. This and A314 I was concerned seem too old man like clint eastwood sexy which is not what I’m going for. but maybe not?? I’m going for More hip sexy like brad pitt, matthew mcaunehey (sp) and not that I think he’s cool but that actor from the vampire movie twighlight. I would love to get reactions from women like how they respond to him. I find it ridiculous but every girl I know goes crazy whenever they talk about “Edward” lol. And these are even women over 30. What the hell?? Anyway, sorry about that little tangent.

One other -mone I really want to try just for the fun of it is spaceland just seems llike something that would give me a lot of fun and amusement to experiement with.

Wow three posts by me already in under 20 minutes. I think I am already addicted =)

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I can totally relate, I used to be pretty shy even though I was loud and the class clown… it makes sense i swear lol…
A314 will make you more confident… and appear to others as even more of an alpha male, and this can make you unapproachable as they might think they dont have a chance… that’s why you’ll have to approach mostly with A314… however if you pair A314 with IO or IH… than they will open up to you and feel relaxed around you at the same time… which is great. A314 will help with being the alpha, talking with groups, and anything that can usually make some feel timid… i’m telin ya the stuff is great, just make sure to buffer, like i said, with IO or IH… IG can be great for the same thing as A314 as well, only its not as ‘in your face’ so you could give that a try as well.

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Hello and welcome to PheroTalk. I am so happy you were able to discover this most amazing community. We consider each other like family here and are totally committed to helping each other out. There are so many great people here and now another too :slight_smile:.

I will be issuing your GC in just a short while to your email. I would love to be able to personally respond to every new user signing on, but because I want to ensure you get the GC in time I can only reply with this message at this time. I’m sure you are anxious to get started, just like the rest of us were too :slight_smile:. Its cool!

Of course I am available to answer any question you might have regarding mones selection by calling me personally on the hotline. Please select extension one and I will be able to consult you one on one.

Welcome to the forum.

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I too agree that you have a wonderful writing style. I find these discussions and products to be very interesting. I often hear about pheromones in perfumes and such. I was wondering though, since you stated that you have a girlfriend, does she experiment with pheromones as well? How does that work? Does she react differently towards you once you started using pheromones? I find it to be very interesting in the dynamic of a couples situation.

I am also curious as to why you want attention from other women when you have a girlfriend. Do you not get enough validation from her or do you just get a thrill or different type of validation from other women? I am interested in someone myself, and wonder if he will feel differently when I am not around. Are pheromones so powerful that my significant other will feel the same way about me when we are together, when he is on his own?

I too feel very insecure at times in a relationship and feel that I need to compete with others. Do you feel a lessening of that?