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Hi there, my name is Tom and I’m from New Joisey. I am, as of today, a 38 y/o Male.

I came across this site is the strangest way. I originally searched Google for information about whether a “vagina scented lube/perfume” existed for a sex toy I had bought recently (yeah…you read that correctly lol). I figured if they can make a “Fleshlight”, someone had to have developed a lube that mimicked the scents of a woman, right? Anyway I was offered a link to this site to read about copulins. Well, as I looked at the forums in general, I started to get more and more curious, and registered with the site in order to have access to as much info as I could click on.

I remember reading about pheromones years back and honestly placed it in the same category as Spanish Fly…any positive effect is psychosomatic and should not be attributed to this witch doctor voodoo snake oil. But the more I read, the more I am convinced it is worth a try, especially in a couple particular areas of my life. I am generally a likable and fun guy to be around, and I do have moments of absurd confidence where it seems I’ve got the world on a string, but I’d like a little more consistency…to smooth out the “peaks and valleys” as it were.

What I am interested to explore is the effect of pheromones in two specific environments: a Swinger’s Club where I am a member, and in future job interviews and subsequent employment.

At my favorite Swinger’s Club, I am hoping to find a mixture that will take me beyond being the “cool guy that everyone likes talking to”, to the “cool guy that everyone likes talking to and lots of girls can’t seem to resist the urge to get in my pants”. In this environment, however, I often have to deal with M+F couples, so it’s not as simple as just seducing her…I have to convince hubby/boyfriend that I am trustworthy, or at least convince him I am so virile that it would be foolish to prevent his woman from having me! (for those of you who are unfamiliar, “swinging” is basically open-minded sexual affairs…all partners are agreeing to this so I’m not talking about get a wife to cheat on her husband…sometimes he joins in and makes it a 3-some. I promise you though, Single Males are generally disliked and avoided, even in clubs that allow Single Males to attend…so I find myself with lots of platonic friends grrr). So I am searching for a mixture that would effect both parties appropriately (I am heterosexual), or also effect Single Females as well.

I can get into other details in another post I guess. I think I’ve chatted enough for a hello post LOL.

TL;DR I’m a total N00b at mones and I want to use it to get laid more often when I’m not in a LTR.

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Hey, welcome to Pherotalk! Can you tell us more about your previous experiences with mones? What kind of mones?
So, you want to seem cooler with swingers? I suggest TUTH, ammo, instant shine, and Ih. Tuth to increase sexual power, ammo to make you appear sexier, instant shine to make everyone feel good and give you glow.
To increase trust with people I suggest IH. Use it with A314, if you want to increase further trust and respect.

Have fun and be safe!

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zero experience with mones.

It’s difficult to put into words what I want regarding The Lifestyle, since I’m not sure who here “gets it”. But basically, as things stand, I tend to have lots of conversations with people, especially couples, that go nowhere. I know that in the Swinger’s world, most couples want nothing to do with a Single Male, but many do also. I have always accused myself of being too polite, too friendly, too passive to initiate anything sexual with the wife/girlfriend unless I get giant semaphore signs waving me in…I want to give off a vibe that initiates that sooner, or attracts couples that are open to 3-somes with Single Males that I may have not attracted with my overt nice-ness. I want to complement my nice-ness with sexual allure that I am apparently not exuding on my own. At the same time, I have to make sure not to irritate hubby/boyfriend, or give off a vibe that makes him antagonistic. I hope that made sense lol.

This would probably not be as complicated for me if I were dealing purely with attracting single, unattached women…but I’m also guessing I’m not the only guy on this forum that has experimented in this arena? Am I making this scenario more complicated that it really is? lol

For the record, I’m not averse to experimenting in the sexual world…it took me months to find a combination of herbal supplements to give me an impressive and more-or-less predictable erection…now I just need more opportunities to use it haha.

Thanks for the reply! :slight_smile:

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Well, ammo + Tuth would help you seem more sexual and sexy at the same time. Plus, it will arouse the ladies like crazy. Add IS and even IH to it, then the husbands might even be willing to try it… Those four are my suggestions

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interesting…I was getting the impression that Ammo + TUTH might be too powerful in combination?..so much to learn, good thing I’m a research junkie lol

My initial thinking was IJ considering the environment (it’s totally possible to start going at it on one of the couches in the club) but then wondered what to combine with it to lessen the chances it would irritate the male counterpart. Ammo and TUTH appeared, to me, to be geared more towards women I have already established some attraction with?..how off base am I on this? In many situations I have a very limited window of time to establish sexual attraction and allure, so I was thinking the “instants” might be more effective?..or are the “instants” less effective without a base like Ammo and/or TUTH?

I love theorycrafting :smiley:

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ammo and TUTH are instants… add some IO and IH to them, then you get better effects, since both males and females would feel more comfortable…
IJ might work too, but guys might feel threatened or scared :smiley:

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Exactly what I was concerned about :wink:

Ok let me get your thought on this:

The club I go to allows smoking (its a “Private” club, so it is not required to follow the rules regarding smoking in “Public” venues). So there are some people who smoke, and I also am a smoker. I wouldn’t exactly say there is some lingering cloud to walk through, but bottom line it’s not a smoke free environment, and like I said, I am also a smoker.

Also, I am 38 y/o.

How much do these 2 elements come into play when I am determining how much to use as a test dose?..I have read that competing pheromones (sexually charged atmosphere of a Swinger’s Club) + competing aromas (perfumes, colognes, cigarette smoke) + my age (38) can all require me to up my starting dosage to overcome them. I’ve never found any of the aromas to be overwhelming, but then I may not have a proper definition of what “overwhelming” is…and since I am not 19, I’m not producing as much natural mones to begin with. Like I said I’m ok with experimenting, but do you think I should start with a higher baseline? Or maybe consider the 2x products?

Also, am I correct in thinking that TUTH and Ammo are intended to be more powerful the closer your proximity is to your target (which would require a good rapport to start with)? In other words, one should always err on the side of moderation, because it works in concert with closeness anyway…

Thanks for all the tips so far :slight_smile: This is why my doctor calls me a “mad scientist” when it comes to sexual experimentation lol.

-Tom

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Hey Tom! Welcome to the forum!

I’d chime in here since I’m about your age. I’m using AMMO x1 of the 30ml with about 3 to 4 sprays for a solid effect, IOI’s in a dinner, evening out environment. Each user’s mone production will have a slight or much effect on the amount of mones needed for an ‘effect’ on your target audience.

You can likely order the AMMO 2x and give one spray a go in your club environment. Check for effects on yourself and others, then try a two spray, which is equal to AMMO x1 by 4 times spray.

The IS and IO are also great products. The IO i have in single strength with the IS at 2x. I did my own testing of the IS to get to this conclusion on my sig below, amazing in a bottle link.

Glad you can stop by… don’t be a stranger!

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Welcome to Pherotalk Rocksarentppl!

You received some great advice when it comes to the sexual aspect and to tell you the truth I am still a bit confused about your intro.

I heard sexual toy and I was wondering why a guy would have a sexual toy and what kind is it and then I hear you are a member of a swinger’s club and am still wondering what is that.

All I know is you into some freaky shit. :stuck_out_tongue:

For work I think A314 is the best for you but this work so effectively for you if you are shy. To be more approachable while using it add instant shine to the mix.

Now when you get the hang of A314 you will find it can be used to attract the ladies because we ladies get wet at the thought of the top dog being near us.

Can’t wait to hear about your experiences with these mones.

Your gc was issued!

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LMAO

Sex Toys and Adult Toys for Men and Women at Fleshlight.com that is the toy I was referring to

and Wikipedia “swinging” :stuck_out_tongue:

Thanks again for the GC and my first order is on the way…even though I kinda screwed up and ordered the wrong stuff haha