Hello from Sweden and some questions

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Hi all,
Im a 19 yo male from Sweden, Im tall(1.90+ m) and rathers skinny(working on it… sometimes :stuck_out_tongue:). Ive been trying pheros for around 6 months since I got the NPA + SoE combo from L-S, been browsing this forum and the store more & more since L-S seems rather dead by comparison and the products here seem more refined.

So lets get on with my experiences, expectations and first order shall we. Im a bit drawn-back, not that Im shy but Im not a pro at striking up/keeping a conversation going. I also looking for pheromones to make me kinda stand out in a group, especially in the eyes of people that dont know me/us, and also help me get more respect from people around me, not professional respect but more like that “oh what a cool guy”-respect. Last but not least, an extra edge attraction-wise is always nice :stuck_out_tongue: I know this can sound like Im asking for alot, but I think Im quite aware of whats possible with pheromones and Im just looking for that extra push…

For the last 3 areas NPA has seemed to work quite good, although inconsistent. Ive used up to 2.5 dabs covered with cologne and feel like Im getting more attention at parties etc. SoE on the other hand was quite a dissapointment, I noticed some social effects, increased chatting etc, but these were Very inconsistent. Most of the time it only had negative effects, almost completely negated the respect from NPA, and if I didnt use NPA with it seemed to make me appear “softer” than usual despite the -rone in it.

So primarily Im looking for something new among the social products, I think Instant Shine is a given. Among the talk-focused ones Im definately preferring IO and IH over CTTM2 to be able customize the a/b ratio to suit myself and the situation, Ive also read here that the instants are more effective than cttm.

Moving on to the “heavier” side of things, Ive always heard that young people should be extremely cautious with none-products but NPA has worked well for me even up to the mentioned 2.5 dabs. Anyone know if red-heads producing less none naturally? Heard that we’re more sensitive to pain so maybe we’re less “manly” :stuck_out_tongue:

Even before I ordered from L-S i got a hold of a bottle of Passion Pheromone Attractant(pure none) but didnt see the same effects as with NPA, could have been a dosage problem or something though since i ditched it pretty fast without really testing it, but I think the “secrets” of NPA is really useful for me. So is TUTH with its own secrets comparable to NPA? I will probably order it to test myself but other opinions would be great.

Im thinking of going with Instant Gentleman and TUTH/NPA instead of ammo, again for the customization. It seems like IG will be a better fit for me than A314 since Im not looking for that professional, “do what I tell you to do” type of respect.

Oops this became alot longer than I planned and Im still unsure if I got it all in there. My shopping list so far is:
Instant Shine
Instant Gentleman
Instant Openess
Instant Honesty
Turn Up The Heat

This is gonna be pricey :stuck_out_tongue: but its probably best to order everything together anyway, international shipping and all…

Comments? Suggestions? Am I on the right track?

If you’ve gotten this far, thanks for taking your time, regards,
wippeus

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Hejsan & valkommen till forumet!

This is a great community and you’ll find plenty of people that can give you advice…and of course the forum is full of info too!

Sounds like you have already done some great research into the phero’s here at Androtics and you have pretty good idea what you might want to try.

I agree that IS is a pretty much given…it’s brilliant as a stand alone and in combo’s.

As far as the “communicators”…it’s a personal preference. I personally love CTTM2 for general use, but I also like to add IH to get that extra intimacy in a conversation.

TUTH is a very sexual phero…it’s best left for when you get to the bedroom, but in there it’s great! I have never used NPA so I couldn’t tell you how the two compare, but I’m sure some of the lads can.

Hope that helps a bit… The guys can give you more specific advice on IG, TUTH and Ammo…:roll_eyes:

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Hey wippeus,

If you’re looking for the “cool guy” vibe then you should check out Instant Gentlemen. It’s a good phero and I actually suggested renaming it “Instant Style” because it seems to make you the cool guy who people want to talk to.

Instant Honesty and Instant Openness are good socials for getting people to open up to you, but beware the self affects! :smiley:

I’m not sure about using TUTH as your baseline -none product, that seems like it could make a lot of trouble for you. I recommend Ammo, or MAYBE heavy ammo if you really don’t think that the buffered dose of -none is going to do anything for you.

Good luck, its a great thing you have found this site. Stick with it!

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o wow :slight_smile:

what a great introduction!

yes, it seems like you hit everything on the dot. for socials, the stuff you picked out will definetely help you.

just one word of caution: when wearing instant honesty, be aware of self effects like pherophreak said. whenever i wear them, i spray it away from my face: so i spray them on my hair, my back and my wrists.

you seem to be very knowledgeable about pheros :slight_smile: even though -none might be a little too heavy for you, you said you used NPA without problems.. why dont you consider AMMO as well? it’s a great product for giving that extra edge when worn sparingly :slight_smile:

welcome!

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Wow, thanks for the warm welcome… You guys are fast hehe.
Please don’t commend me too much about the selection of “social” products, it feels like I just mentioned all of them :stuck_out_tongue: But then I think I’m almost set on the IO+IH combo, maybe just a togo honesty, we’ll see.

As for Ammo vs TUTH I suppose I thought I could “buffer” the none myself by layering tuth/npa with the social pheros. If I got things right Ammo is basically(is that a word?) a mix with none/rone/a-nol, was it 1/1/2? Couldn’t I achieve a similar effect by mixing the other mentioned products, or is buffering more advanced than that? Well of course its more advanced but I mean maybe perfect synchronisation/buffering could be sacrificed to be able to change the ratios between pheros to suit me and the occasion… I kinda thought tuth would be easier to mix since its all sexy hehe, less factors to consider so to speak, after all the none in one spray is equal to ammo.

Argh, maybe I should just go with ammo and use the npa I have left when a boost in none is needed for clubbing/bars etc… So much to try, so little time/money :smiley:

Well, thanks again for the answers, you people are great, there’s definately a risk that I’ll stick around

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Yeah, stick around! Vi behover fler svenskar har :wink:

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Hello There, Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

My name is Tisha and I am the hostess and a mone expert here on PT. I am glad you decided to join us.

OK Lets break down what your getting here…

Now I agree Ishine is a must have it will get your noticed which is one of the effects you were looking for.

I would replace IG with AMMO, IG is great but you had trouble with SOE and you looking for a cool vibe. You will get that better from AMMO then from IG. IG is mature reliable safe smooth worldly

I would go with IO and IH over CTTM. This is a personal preference as will as a professional recommendation though. Its better to work the with two separate vibes before going to CTTM which is more raw. Its more versatile to get them separate.

TUTH is heavy and very sexual. Only use this one in a sexually charged environments. Clubs parties dates. Start with one spray. This is stronger then NPA because its a spray formula

Since your far away and trying to make the most of shipping I suggest IFM to calm ease and increase affection as well as get past last minute resistance.

Now they have to-go bottles that contain 40 sprays each for testing. The large bottles contain 200 sprays.

I would say get most of them in a to-go size to find the ones you really like first. If you going to get any large ones go with your AMMO and Ishine for that. Its up to you I don’t know how much you want to spend.

Keep in mind you get $5 in points when you sign up to the smartmones store and you use both your GC and those points at check out on the payment page which should help. You also earn points for every cash dollar spent in the store for you next order so they try to help a little with cost.

Few points I would like to clear up…

AMMO has 3 mones in it anol anone and arone.

SOE is a great product and from what you described it did what it was supposed to. Its more social in nature.

If you have questions just ask. Your GC is on its way and we look forward to hearing from you in the forum

Tisha

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Tack tack xiphoid, så du kan mer än ett par ord på svenska hehe
How come you know so much swediish when you’re located in the uk?

That’s just lovely tisha, I think you just filled me in on everything I needed to know, thanks alot. Now I just have some deciding to do, will probably post back when I’m set on what to order. Meanwhile don’t hesitate to offer more suggestions/agree/disagree :slight_smile: We still have recommendations both for and against Gentleman, anyone else got an opinion? I’ll probably just go with a togo bottle and try it out…

Thanks everyone for your help,
wippeus

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Darfor att jag inte ar en riktig engelska…jag ar importerad :roll_eyes: