I am brand new to this topic. My question to you is:
I have a male acquaintance that I would like to know better - as a closer friend. (non-sexual)
I want him to like being around me (he already does - but I want him to really like being around me).
I want him to seek out my friendship.
Acknowledge my presence a whole bunch more.
Trust me.
Want to communicate/talk with me.
And if I could add one more item it would be for him to find me more playful.
What do I need to buy and why? How should I use the product/s?
Well, I would avoid IS/a or b - those are very sexual and would change the dynamic …
Instant Shine comes to mind first. Happy.
I would then go with Instant Honesty. Not so much that it will make him honest but that it will help with conversation - hopefully more menaingful conversation. Also can help with the trustworthy feeling too.
I would go with the max strength for both. That would mean maybe 2 sprays of Instant Shine per dose and 1 of IH.
I would consider applying both to your hair. Pheromones tend to last longer when applied to the hair.
If you really want the relationship to stay non-sexual (you’re being honest with us, right?) then you might experiment with Instant Gentleman. My theory is that it may give you a “one of the guys” vibration, mixed with a dose of respect and confidence.
Hi Schell0385. I saw your other thread too in the women’s forum, re: the mx135. I obviously haven’t tried that myself, and I’ve only just done a newb run with A314 (good stuff btw!) I believe mx135 is the female equivalent. (Correct me if I’m wrong guys, I get confused with all the P’s and MX’s. On that score, the women’s forum seems nerdier and more esoteric than the men’s, LOL).
Anyhow, I should imagine social proof works just as well for women as men, although one does tend to see men discussing such things in the various PUA fora, and not so much women. So, I guess an mx135-enhanced “being the centre of attention” type thing will work wonders. Even when he’s out of range of your pheromonal aura, the indirect effects - seeing the effect you’re having on people, and indeed, the self-effects which should make you feel pretty damn cool, if your experience is anything like mine - well that should get this guy thinking.
I was getting acknowledged on my A314 newbie mission by folk who couldn’t possibly be in range of the A314 (upwind of me, some distance away). So I’m starting to see indirect, knock-on-effect hits, too.
Thanks for the replies…
Can I use the Instant Gentlemen’s without seeming too much like one of the guys (smile).
I am really being honest about not wanting anything sexual with him …because his wife just dies and I think it would be a little inappropriate…
What I am thinking is this…how much better to know someone as a very good friend and that way if in the future something does happen with the two of us…we would have a firm friendship for a good solid long lasting foundation. Does that make sense to you, being that you are men?
As far as being a woman using IG goes, you may be in the vanguard of experimentalists if you do that. If you do, be sure to tell us how it goes! I know men have experimented with sprays designed for women before on this forum…
AFAIK IO and IS are both unisex.
It is very interesting that you mention a long period of friendship developing into a possible relationship. Most dating advice for men cautions the man that such a thing will never happen, and they will be stuck in a “friend zone” if this happens. I suppose that means that it is a common theme in men’s thoughts, hopes and dreams. So it could work out well for you.
I don’t want to sound crass here but if she died last week it would be inappropriate, but if it’s been somewhat longer (like a few months) he might be glad to find that he is still a man and that you find him desirable. Grief takes many forms and is different for everyone. He may be ready to move forward faster than you think.
A guy I know was in a car crash that killed his wife. They were a really “in love” type couple, married for about ten years. Within six months he had remarried and you would never know they hadn’t been married forever…always holding hands and grinning at each other. I thought it was a rebound mistake that he would regret. It was three years ago and they were holding hands last time I saw them.
If you wanna enter the friends box fast then you could try IG but it will make you one of the boys. Just a word of advice. You do not want to be in the friend box if you want something more with this man later on. I know he just lost his wife but your a girl and I would keep that very clear. I am not saying to push him or anything, just dont become one of the guys. That vibe at this critical time in his recovery will keep you in the friend zone forever.
One product I didnt think of earlier is P74 which has a bonding effect and wont take away from your femininity This with IH and Ishine would be good plus it wont come on sexually
You folks are awesome~
So far I have purchased - Instant Shine, Instant honesty, and IS/b (not going to use it yet on him)…I had these shipped overnight and will receive them today.
So now I am going to get P74. I need to look up TAC again.
I also want to get MX134 or the cookie smell equivalent of that…MX2??.
Can I mix the cookie scent with neroli? Maybe not.
I think I should get both. Men love it when they come over to the house and smell vanilla sugar cookies baking or a great pumpkin spicy pie.
Because I am a scientist - bio-chemistry - I changed my e-mail address to scientist chic, so that is what you will see my name as now. This stuff is right up my alley and I am sooooo going to have fun testing all of the wonderful products (my new toys). I think I want everything (grin). I am also an essential oil guru so it would be very interesting using these products with different heady oil mixes. This is so exciting, and I sure appreciate all of your experience and insights.
Of course! LOL we need to use the popular English word “is” even in shouty ALL CAPS, so we don’t want that altering. Whereas we probably don’t have much call on this forum for the word that describes one of Jupiter’s moons, that features an ‘I’ and an ‘O’
Schell0385, I hope you have fun with the Instant Shine - I sure did today. Any knowledge of essential oils you feel like dropping on this forum would be much appreciated… my own just runs to “Hey, that smells OK, and covers up the less desirable odours that sometimes find their way onto my person or into my house.”
I used:
2 sprays of Shine (inside elbow, hair)
3 sprays of Honesty (inside elbows, hair)
It was an evening where I had a few people over, including my friend. At first I discreetly placed everyone where I wanted them to sit. I sat down with a light fan blowing behind me toward the direction of my friend.
And WOW - he is normally slightly reserved, never gushes. I was just talking like I usually do, and he GUSHED - THAT IS WHAT I LOVE about you…
He wash very open and friendly and I did not expect him to say what he did. This would be considered a very unusual response from him and the manner in which he gave it. He was very open and comfortable around me the rest of the evening.
I would call this a success from a first time phero girl.
Great report! I like the use of the fan. Well, the weather here in the UK has been dreadful for what seems like ever, but should it pick up and get hot and sunny again, I have one of those little hand-held fans, that takes two AA batteries. Next scorching hot day we get (if we get one LOL), I have the ideal pretext to carry it about and have fun with it.
