Hello! Interested in getting back into the game...

Hello all!

My name is Jay. I’m a 27 year old male business owner in the Atlanta, GA area.

I started experimenting with pheromones throughout the years that I was in college (2002-2006). I had gone through a breakup with a high school sweetheart due to the long distance relationship resulting from my move to another city to attend college. Since it had been a while since I had been single, I was mainly interested in attracting females and appearing more confident.

I began ordering products from a quite popular internet site that sold a variety of products made by various manufacturers. Throughout the “testing” process, I ended up turning my college roommates onto pheromones and they began ordering their own supply. College was a great arena to test out pheromones due to the close proximity to girls while attending classes and the parties you’d invariably end up attending outside of class. Of course, while in class, you wouldn’t be in a smoky atmosphere so their effectiveness seemed to be enhanced.

It became somewhat of a hobby for me. I even went as far as purchasing unscented chem-kits of -rone, -nol, and -none and mixing my own concoctions; however, what always seemed to work the best was a product made by an Australian company called Andro 4.2 (an alcohol-based -none product) which has since been discontinued.

Graduation came and went, I moved back to the Atlanta area, and met my current fiance. I never thought much more about pheromones.

While moving into a new house recently, I discovered an old bottle of Andro 4.2. For whatever reason, I decided to give it a try again.

My fiance love it! All of her friends loved it! They were constantly commenting on how great I smelled. A few of them wanting to know what cologne I was wearing (Curve), so they could buy it for their boyfriends! I had been wearing Curve w/ out a pheromone additive for quite some time, and no one ever seemed to care. It fact, the girls would seemed surprised when I told them I was wearing Curve as they had smelled it before and it never affected them “that way.”

I didn’t tell my fiance at first, but she ended up finding the bottle, and I explained to her what it was. She didn’t seem to mind, she just loves the way I smell when I’m wearing it. So for those of you who still keep your mones a “secret,” if you’re ever found out by a spouse or girlfriend, you’d be surprised about how accepting they may be!

Alas, my bottle of Andro is gone. The product is no longer manufactured. And what’s worse, I have no idea of what to replace it with (yet). I will be trolling the forums to get some ideas for what to apply my $25 gift certificate to use. Any suggestions would be great - but keep in mind:

I like to use my own covering cologne, so unscented would be best. Yes, I know they can have a pungent smell, but it isn’t my first time around the block.

Also, I’ve been out of the game for a while. Back then, -nol, -rone, and -none were pretty much the only ones in town, so I’d like to hear about these products containing newly formulated mones.

When I used these product 5-6 years ago, for whatever reason, -nol and -rone never really did much for me. I’m already a pretty approachable guy, maybe I just naturally lack -none.

Either way, I’m open to suggestions, but I feel like started with an unscented product, mix is ok, but heavy on the -none. I also would need to get an idea of an application amount since I’ve been out of the loop (not sure about -none content per spray/drop for any of these products).

Thanks for reading, and let the suggestions come forth!

-Jay

Hi Jay and welcome to the forum! I’m quite impressed by your testing of mones… you are the kind that is needed for the research of mones to continue to bear fruit on this forum! NICE!!!

You may likely need some AMMO or TUTH… without know what was in the Andro product, we can’t be sure of the amounts of none per application. But, you can also get a good aproximation with these commercial lines. Though, if your feeling up to experimenting, you could always order the none directly. Likely Andro had several steering molecules besides a none base, is what I gather from your description and effects.

To get some back story as to why AD does mones the way they do… by precise mu and layering on your skin… check out this thread:

To give you an idea on the contents of the mones from AD… AGAIN, it’s an idea and I’m not suggesting it’s entirely accurate…

You could try the none heavy commercial line as well and compare to the results of Andro…

Thanks for joining and posting… I’m intrigued to know what you find! :slight_smile:

Try some ammo! Also try turn up the heat, but only use TUTH when you’re ready. You can find how how to be ready by reading the store page on TUTH.

Good advice everyone! I think I’ve settled on TUTH. It seems the most similar to Andro 4.2.

1Alpha - to answer a few of your questions. From what I remember, Andro 4.2 was a straight androsteNONE product w/ 4.2 mg per bottle (4200 mcg total). It was a very strong product in a rather LARGE bottle (50ml). Measured the sprays from an empty bottle, and got about 500 sprays. 1 spray and you had the risk of going overboard (about 8.4mcg a spray), so I would usually dab. As I recall, it was about $80 a bottle.

With that said, I used other straight -none products (NPA, Primal, Edge), and they never had the effect of Andro.

Ordering the 2.5mcg a spray now so that I can test. Will keep you up to date.

In the meantime, I’m going to check on those threads regarding application that you posted since I’m sure I’ll learn something new.

Does anyone know the actually pheromone names and concentrations that TUTH contains? I’m sure it’s pretty heavy on the -none, but I don’t know what else is in it.

Thanks!

4.2 mg !!! :open_mouth: THAT Would be a VERY potent NONE product, to put it mildly. At the AD store, you can order androsteNONE and select that mg, approximate amount…

ExperiMone™ Androstenone Spray :: ExperiMone&#153 Series :: Androtics Direct

But, before you do anything rash, Call up the number at the top, and talk to Steve O at Androtics…

Hope it works out for you, bud!

1Alpha…

Once again, Andro 4.2 was in a LARGE 50ml bottle with quite small sprays. It ended up being about 8.4 mcg of -none per spray, and I’d only use one spray max. That would be equivalent to about 3 and a half sprays of the TUTH 2.5mcg per spray product (if it is mainly -none) which is still pretty strong, but like I said, it worked for me!

Went ahead and ordered the 2.5mcg TUTH. Will start with 2 spray applications moving towards 3 sprays per application closer to Andro 4.2.

With that said, it looks like Instant Jerk may be my next order (12.5mcg -none per spray). Will dilute 2:1 and only use one spray. Might be more economical. Does AD sell high quality atomizers (not the cheap, inconsistant stuff)? If not, IJ might be a double order storing half of the total product to dilute accordingly.

Thanks!

Just re-read your post and thought you might have misunderstood me…

Just so you know, Andro had 4.2 mg TOTAL PER 500 SPRAY BOTTLE.

4.2mg = 4200mcg per BOTTLE. 4200/500 sprays was 8.4mcg per SPRAY.

It was only about 8.4mcg per spray… I would only use one spray so 8.4mcg per application.

And yes, it was quite strong :slight_smile:

All you need is on the Mixing supplies page:

Mixing Supplies :: Androtics Direct

:slight_smile:

Welcome to pherotalk Jay!

That was quite an interesting introduction and I think you will fit in so well here.

I think a product like A314 will be great for your personality and the smell you will just love and your wife too.

Instant shine to give off that youthful, happy vibe that draws others to you.

Let us know what you decided on and how well it worked for you compared to the pheromones you used in the past.

Your gc was issued! :wink: