Hello pals,
I’m 36 years old shy guy from Southeast Asia, searching for the right tools to make me more confident to attract Asian girls age 24-36 for a social life and serious relationship in the future.
I’m not a good loking guy, and my problem is lack of self confidence to start conversations when I met new girls.
After many hours of googling finally I found this wonderful site, I hope I’m not too old for this.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks folks.
Hello and welcome to the forum.
Glad to see you here.
What I normally reocmmend for guys who are a little shy is:
Ammo - it has enought none in it to let the ladies know you are interested but it is balanced enough you can wear it anywhere.
IO - helps with those intial chatty conversations.
Ishine - helps the people around you feel happy to be near you.
Although you may want to try IG instead of Ammo. IG does not have any none in it and gives you a cool, smooth calm alpha male at rest signature.
Hopefully Looif will come around - he may be able to give you some good advice. he is not too far from you.
Hi there,
Bosshank has already gave you excellent advice as he usually does.Thats cool that your also from southeast asia.Which part are you from?lol,its really hot and humid lately.The products will definitely make it easier but youll still have to work on your confidence on the side(^^)Wouldnt worry too much about looks,that can always be improved through the way you dress and going to gym.Gym increases your confidence too in the long run(^^)For self confidence to starting conversations,think the best way is just to start conversations with more girls.Youll be rejected a lot at first but it will improve as you become more used to it.
Products wise,i agree with Bosshank.Ammo is pretty good for helping you give a more attractive vibe and the scent seems to be pretty well liked by south east asian noses(:-p)Lol,scent is pretty subjective though so wouldnt say that 100%.Akuto which is a forum favorite was compared to incense by my girlfriend,lol.Instant openness since your shy would also be good since it will make them more chatty but would still do some reading beforehand about the events of the day or other stuff so you can steer the conversation and avoid running out of conversation topics(^^) Haha,it wont help if you dont talk at all,its not quite that good(><)I actually like the ammo+instant honesty combo more for dates once youve already met the girl.Good attraction with decent enough comfort for asian girls which is necessary.Would probably get double strength ammo if you get it since your older.If your going more for a serious relationship though,instant gentleman may be a better bet.Asian girls tend to go for successful guys who can provide for them which that gives out well.Haha,think that mainly works because southeast asian girls can be a little materialistic. Particularly Chinese ones(:-p)Dont worry,your never too old to get more dates and have a good dating life(^_^) All the best and hope you get good results with your testing.
Thank you very much for your reply bosshank & looifookmeng
I agree if ammo is my best choice, but still confuse about the modifications.
Because I’m older, ammo + instant gentleman will make me seem older than my actual age (CMIIW).
How about ammo + ishine ?
instant openness or instant honesty, which one is better to combine with ammo ?
Do I need Alpha A314 too?
Hmm,instant gentleman doesnt actually make you appear older.It just gives you a more reliable successful vibe.Some members think it makes them appear younger actually(>_<)Hmm,havent actually tried ammo+instant gentleman so not really sure what vibe it would give though.i usually use either ammo or instant gentleman as a base so havent really combined them.
Ammo+instant shine is pretty good although i would throw in the instant openness since your not that confident starting conversations so Ammo+Instant openness or ammo+instant openness+instant shine.Once your actually dating the person i find replacing instant openness with instant honesty is better though.Instant gentleman+instant openness/instant shine is also pretty good but gives a more relationship oriented vibe than ammo.
Think you should give A314 a miss for the time being.It needs quite a bit of confidence to pull off so probably wont be useful for you at the moment.
Stay away from the A314 if you are concerned about giving-off a more mature vibe - That is one of the things it does very, very well. IG still has bags of status but with a much lighter/younger feel.
instant openness or instant honesty , which one is better to combine with ammo or ig ?
If your problem is confidence and icebreaking, then IO is the one to go for. IH comes into its own once you have begun to get to know someone and want to go deeper.
Depends on the situation,instant openness is better with girls your meeting for the first time or when hanging out with friends.Instant honesty is better for one-on-one meetings or dates.
thank you pals, maybe I will try ammo + io for the first test.. wish me luck 
Welcome to pherotalk Nubi!
No, you are not too old and don’t say old. Old is too throw no longer usable and am sure that is not the case with you.
We have a mixed crowd here, in fact so mixed no one feels it so we have melted into one giant, amazing community.
Have fun with these!
Your gc was issued!
Anyone got any info about MX452 ?
Its an MX - probably one of the new stealth diffusion mixes.
The idea is that you try it out and tell us what you find. Put your results in the MX Tests Forum. Start by using it on its own first. Then try it alongside other products once you have an idea of how it works for you.
The stealth mixes have mainly been TAA-based, so broadly similar to Instant Shine but there have been other molecules slipping out recently.
I also got one today with my order. I will give it a try, since I tried two MX berore, with with amazing results and the other one not so much.
I am also very shy and lack some confidence. Ammo + IO works great for me, you will see the diffence. Good luck man.
Thanks pal, how many sprays do you use?