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[jtb318]

Hi all I’m a 36 year old male, I’ve lost about a 100lbs over the last year and a half and still carry a lot of the “big guy” mentality which for me equates to being a little light on the confidence. Don’t read that as being down on my self, it’s just that the old me is still pretty ingrained in my sub conscious. I’m average to above average in looks (middle of the road I guess) but have a great sense of humor and have no trouble connecting with women…wait for it…on a friendly level. I was in a long term relationship (11 years of which 5 were married) where my self esteem and confidence took a pretty vigorous beating. The classic I love you but not in love with you…the grandmaster of all confidence and esteem killers in my book. Anyway, as I mentioned above I suffer from the nice guy syndrome and can’t seem to been seen as anything other than that.

So what am I looking for? Well, to be completely honest I want to up my confidence level significantly and the best way I can think of doing that is through some success with the opposite sex…that I’m actually attracted too. That’s the kicker, as I mentioned above I don’t have a problem connecting with women. What I find however is that any woman that I’m attracted to doesn’t see me in a sexual/relationship way. Yet women that I’m not necessarily attracted too on a sexual/relationship are with me…catch 22.

About 6 months ago I purchased (on a whim) Instant Shine, Female Magic and Turn up the heat. Now being a complete newbie and not really researching I think I kind of blew it with all the products mainly due to lack of knowledge. I can say with certainty I did feel good when using Instant Shine…confident good about myself. I had more eye contact and smiles when I used Female Magic but I also didn’t really know what to look for as far as reactions from women. Application seemed to be my stumbling block…how much does one apply? I’ve had a quick look around the forums and haven’t had much luck in a step by step type of how to. What I have gathered is that it’s different form one guy to the next and takes some experimenting…that being said what a good rule of thumb when starting down this road?

I’d appreciate any product and application suggestions any of you Zen-like users may be able to offer me.

Anyway, I’ve read a few posts in the intros and have been very impressed by the openness everyone seems to have with each other. I look forward to hearing/chatting.

Thanks,

Jay

[Robbie]

Hi Jay, welcome to the forum.

You know, Instant Shine should be one of the easier products to see reactions to. I would suggest that you look at Ammo (attracts women) and Instant Openness (makes people open up) and perhaps Instant Gentleman (adds charisma and will make you appear younger).

I suggest you start out trying each product one at a time to get used to it’s effects. I also suggest you read the link in my signature How Do I Know If I’m Getting hits and also read through the sticky threads in the Men’s section. Start out slow and read as much as you can, using the products properly will help you greatly!

Good luck here!

[josef]

hello jay and welcome to the forums.

thanks for the well written and helpful intro, it’s quite apparent that you did a little bit of research first and hopefully once you give these things another test run you will be able to follow up this intro with more quality hit reports.

hey, also big congrats on shedding 100 pounds, that has to have helped with the self confidence quite a bit as well.

Instant Shine, IFM and TUTH are three of the most obvious attraction getters, charisma boosters and comfort builders here so you did a good thing by starting with them but it sounds like you jumped in with both feet and weren’t able to get enough out of them once you had them.

have no fear, you aren’t the first or last and i’m telling you from experience, those three products work and work very ver well.

IFM is a personal favorite of mine. if you do a forum search for IFM you have to have run across a post or two (hundred) from me once i started using IFM and even now as a seasoned IFM vet. i love the stuff. not for anything it does to me but for the blatantly obvious effects it has on women. when i first started with IFM, i sprayed twice on my chest almost immediately prior to a gf of mine arriving at my house.

let me tell you that was one of the most personally embarassing moments of my adult life. here was a girl coming over to shag me, pheromones or not, and i almost blew it because i became so self conscious that i smelled like a goat that i almost couldn’t perform.

almost.

what i’ve learned since then is that each of these molecules reacts differently with each of us and with some great help and insight from the grandmaster MHarris, i started putting the IFM on the back of my head, away from my nose and more importantly , diffusing like crazy into the space around me.

as for Instant Shine, i’ve already shot myself with close to 8 sprays today and i’m not finished yet. this stuff really has no limit for me, as long as i have a deodorant spray or cologne to cover up the older sprays as they start converting to B.O.

with TUTH, it really helps to have yourself in position to strike, if you know what i mean, and both IFM and IS can help you get to that point. I’ve had girls practically scratching at the ground to get at me while wearing the stuff so i know it works but it really needs to be put in context, the right place, the right time, and certainly the right attitude helps.

sounds like you’ve got the right frame of mind and attitude, good luck with everything else!

[wilks]

Hey there,

For expert advice, check out master Steve’s guide:

How to find your sweet spot...

Lately I have been getting a lot of calls from guys and gals unsure what the forum members mean when we say “sweet spot.”:stuck_out_tongue: Here’s a very simple way to find your individual sweet spot for each consumer line product like: Ishine IH IO AMMO A314 TUTH and so on. It’s very easy to do and I hope this guide offers you the assistance you need. When applying the pheromones, please ensure that you are using only one (1) pheromone product at a time. This step is extremely importan…

I’ve never tried IS or IFM, but I’ve been using a lot of TUTH.

I can honestly say I’ve had the best results by spreading a full spray across my neck, then as the night goes on, applying more along the jawline by removing the cap and wiping the straw. It gives girls a chance to be introduced to a strong sexual smell over time instead being hit with it all at once.

On a personal level, if you’re ending up in friend zone, pick up an ebook or two on flirting and practice it daily. Suggestive innuendo, eye contact, smiles and working on physical connections will fix more of that problem than phero’s ever will.

Good luck to you. Have questions? just ask…

[josef]

@wilks

Hey there,

For expert advice, check out master Steve’s guide:
How to find your sweet spot...

I’ve never tried IS or IFM, but I’ve been using a lot of TUTH.

I can honestly say I’ve had the best results by spreading a full spray across my neck, then as the night goes on, applying more along the jawline by removing the cap and wiping the straw. It gives girls a chance to be introduced to a strong sexual smell over time instead being hit with it all at once.

On a personal level, if you’re ending up in friend zone, pick up an ebook or two on flirting and practice it daily. Suggestive innuendo, eye contact, smiles and working on physical connections will fix more of that problem than phero’s ever will.

Good luck to you. Have questions? just ask…

hey wilks, i’ve read somewhere that using that cap/straw for an application might end up introducing bacteria/dirt/oil etc into the bottle and either reducing or eliminating/destroying the contents inside.

i’m mentioning that here in the hopes that someone like tisha/steve/jasmine or others can comment for clarification.

[wilks]

@josef

hey wilks, i’ve read somewhere that using that cap/straw for an application might end up introducing bacteria/dirt/oil etc into the bottle and either reducing or eliminating/destroying the contents inside.

i’m mentioning that here in the hopes that someone like tisha/steve/jasmine or others can comment for clarification.

Excellent thought to bring up! I’ve mentioned this application before and no one said anything, but I’m glad you did. I didn’t consider that…

Experts, please chime in.

Even then, my point is still one I’d make. Gradual application of TUTH has produced better effects than a massive dose all at once.

[tezza23]

jtb318, as wilks mentioned there’s plenty of good material on flirting out there, but the one I’d personally recommend most is Vin DiCarlo’s Attraction Code, www.attractioncodebook.com First rate stuff. I’m in a very similar situation to yours and found this book very helpful.

[Robbie]

@josef

hey wilks, i’ve read somewhere that using that cap/straw for an application might end up introducing bacteria/dirt/oil etc into the bottle and either reducing or eliminating/destroying the contents inside.

i’m mentioning that here in the hopes that someone like tisha/steve/jasmine or others can comment for clarification.

Considering that SOE uses a rollon bottle to apply their product, the problem may be minimal. Then again, perhaps bacteria is the reason no Smartmones products come in a rollon and are dosed only by spray or drops. Hopefully, Tisha or Steve will chime in on this, I’m curious myself…

[tisha23]

Hello Welcome to Pherotalk

Well I am very glad you came in for product help. Looks like your finding your way with Ishine but are having some trouble with the other two.

First things first Read “what mones can do and what they cant do” The link is in my signature below.

Use one product at a time till you get it working for you, This way you can find your dosage (sweet spot) and see exactly what effect each one has.

Start with one spray applied to your pulse points (we will cover application spots next)

Go about your day see what kind of effects you notice, If you see nothing the next day use 2 sprays and so on and so on… Usually around 2 to 4 sprays of something you will start to see results.

It does help when you having trouble to know what the product basically does.

Ishine is upbeat charismatic confident warm. People will feel uplifted by your presence. They tend to hover or be drawn to you more. More eye contact and friendly banter.

IFM calms and eases. it adds comfort and affection. Kinda hard to see exactly whats its doing until you hit on the right situation. Try using it around a female you know is bitchy or uptight. You usually have the “Oh I see” moment then.

TUTH is best used in one on one situation when there is a comfort level between you and another and you want to move it into a sexual experience. Not good for work or certain other environments. I suggest AMMO which is buffered for everyday attraction, interest and mild arousal

Look for behavoir changes not just direct hits. Look for patterns (everytime I wear IFM “this” happens) These help you to see what its doing.

Pay attention to body language, as humans we mask well but we reveal alot in body language. There is a link in my signature for that.

Try different application points. Pulse points, chest, neck, back of neck hair, forearms, wrists. We are all different and different places on our bodies diffuse the mones better then others.

There is alot of great info in the forum, just take you time and read some of the tips and reports. If you need more help you can call Steve for a consultation of PM me and I will be happy to help. Or just ask on the forum and the members will help you as well. We are a friendly bunch.

Look at it as a journey to self improvement, your already started with your weight lose (congrats on that by the way)

We look forward to your participation here on the forum.

Your GC is on its way

I can honestly say I’ve had the best results by spreading a full spray across my neck, then as the night goes on, applying more along the jawline by removing the cap and wiping the straw. It gives girls a chance to be introduced to a strong sexual smell over time instead being hit with it all at once.

Thats a no no, wiping the straw on your face or touching it to your skin can contaminate the bottle. Even with alcohol present it can cause loss of effectiveness. Use a clean sterile pipette if you want to do this. This is the same for oils. Let the oil drop out of the bottle dont bang the applicator to your skin.

Tisha

[jtb318]

Thanks to you all, I look forward to chatting more.

[wilks]

Thanks Tisha. Wait, are you saying I’m dirty?