I’m pretty excited to have joined this site, and even more excited to try out pheromones.
I’m 20 years old, university student living in Vancouver, BC, Canada. I heard about this site from a friend (another new user) who has looked into pheromones awhile back. He never got anything, but recently remembered about them so we decided to check them out again.
My reason for wanting to try out pheromones? To increase the effectiveness of my social skills to build better relationships with those I interact with. Ok fine, I’ll cut the crap, I mainly want these to help me get with a specific girl LOL . I’m generally confident and I believe I should not have a problem in doing so, but I wouldn’t mind all the help I can get when I make my move . However, to redeem myself, after reading about the effects of various pheromones, I also plan to use pheromones for general purposes as well (ie. at work or around school)
I’ve been reading many articles on this site, and I have around a million questions. For now, I’m just going to ask my main few:
I’m a pretty strong believer in “If it’s too good to be true, then it probably is” So if pheromones work as well as people claim, why isn’t it more popular?? (yes, sorry I am still a bit skeptical) Just like everything else in life, when something’s really good, everyone wants a piece and jumps on the bandwagon. Why hasn’t this happened with pheromones?
Do other odors we have on ourselves (ie. cologne, shampoo, body odor, lotion) alter the effect of pheromones? If so, then how should we deal with that?
How is shipping to Vancouver? Will customs have a problem about me ordering super top-secret pheromones? Any taxes or extra delivery charges/brokerage fees?
Now I will tell you what I plan to buy and why:
Ammo: I’ve been reading that it really smells nice and is a very good multi-purpose pheromone. Seems like a good “base” to build up on.
A314: I’ve been kind of wavering on this one, mainly because of the price. It does seem really good though, so I just might take the plunge.
TUTH: Why not? lol I heard it’s super powerful and sometimes “dangerous”, but in moderation it could be useful for reaching my “goal”, correct?
IS: The reported self effects is something that interests me. It seems highly recommended and also seems to mix well with other pheromones.
IO: Also have heard good things about this one. Seems like a good one to mix and use in a variety of situations/places.
Now, if I’m aiming to get with a specific girl, from what I’ve read a good mixture would be:
Ammo, IS, IO
What do you guys think? I understand that the IS and IO would make any conversation and approach better, but do would I need more on the attraction level (a bit of TUTH)? Or would the Ammo and IS take care of that?
I’ve admitted previously, and I’ll admit again, I’m still a bit skeptical. But at the same time, I’m all one for giving things a shot and “You can’t knock on something you’ve never tried” (or however that saying actually goes lol). So that’s why I’m here!! I look forward to your responses!
Thats cool that your enthusiastic.Thats always a good thing(^^)Thats cool that you and your friend found this site.For the pheromones not being as popular,its probably because the effects arent as powerful as the ones you see in commercials.They help and boost whats there but they wont make girls run to you and override free will(:-p)That and most people who are sceptical wont try them out and see for themselves which fortunately you arent one of them(^^)Youll be getting the 25$ gift certificate anyway to help with your first order and try them out for yourself anyway.Hmm.other odors you have on you wont effect the pheromones although they could clash with the smell of ammo since its cologne strength in itself so 2 colognes might not mix very well.Not too sure about the shipping to Vancouver,i get them shipped to Malaysia though and shipping is pretty fast and reliable.Havent gotten any extra taxes on them and customs arent that fussed since they arent illegal.Haha,those 5 are pretty good.A314 can be a bit intimidating though,might be better to start with instant gentleman first.Would be careful with the TUTH also,if you use it when she’s not comfortable enough,it will very likely backfire and youll be classified as the creepy horny guy.(:-p)Since your going for a specific girl and your not really shy,i would probably use IH instead of IO as it will help build a connection and help push it into relationship territory.The ammo+instant shine+instant honesty mix is pretty awesome for dates.All the best and hope to catch ya around the forums.You should also read the 2 stickies below if you haven’t already as they have lots of good information and will help you get the best effects from your mones when you get them.Catch ya later(^_^)
At 20, IG might be a better bet for general attraction than A314. Which although excellent, can give off an overly serious/unapproachable vibe, although it does convey certain attractive/LTR qualities very well.
IG however is much lighter, more suave/social and goes very well with the likes of Ammo and IS.
TUTH is indeed good but best kept for very sexually charged situations like clubs/parties or when the more wide-ranging pheros have done their work and things are escallating nicely - so keep it for when you are close for heading to the bedroom
Why isn’t it more popular? Because some people just don’t believe it at all without even trying, most people don’t even get interested when hearing about it. And of those few who actually try, most don’t realize that it takes some skill. You have to test them for your sweet spot (the dosage that works for you), otherwise you’ll send people a confusing signal and they can even avoid you. It also takes some skill to actually notice the effects. You know how hard it is sometimes to tell, whether a collegue at work likes you or not. This kind of empathy, an ability to sense people’s emotional states is really needed to notice how different is the way people see you when you wear your pheromones skillfully.
It would be more popular if it was as easy as using an antiperspirant. It’s a more precise operation though. Some pheromones will work for certain people when say 5 micrograms is applied, while at 3mcg there will be no effect at all and at 7.5mcg it will work in an unpleasant way.
This is a great adventure though.
Thanks for your responses, and a big thanks to Marihino for the thorough explanation to my first question
So Ive never considered IG actually. What are the main differences between A314 and IG? From what I understand, A314 is for building deeper respect and trust, its more “serious” lol. I would love to try A314, but for $100 for the oil bottle, it is a bit beyond my budget, esp for my first time. Would the additional benefits of A314 over IG justify the price difference?
I will probably order both the IH and IO, and determine the effects of both. Seems like IO is better for ppl you newly met or when you’re more shy. The IH is better for established relationships or when you don’t need help from IO? What i’m slightly confused about is according to the descriptions, IO and IH have different purposes so i’m wondering how they can replace each other.
I haven’t tried A314 so cant really say about the differences other than IG is supposed to be a slightly more relaxed version of A314 and isn’t quite as intimidating so its a good starter product before transitioning to A314.IH is usually better when you want conversations to be deeper and you want to build a connection like on a date or if you want to build a connection with a particular person,IO is more for increasing the quantity of conversation and making people talk more.They both actually contain the same pheromones which are alpha and beta androstenol,just in different ratios so in a high enough dosage.You would probably see some similar effects between the two.Or you can even use both together to make a pretty good social mix which increase the quality and quantity of conversation.All the best and looking forward to hearing how your testing goes.
It all really depends what you want to use it for. If you are looking for a straightforward attraction product then yes at 20, IG is probably by far your better bet. Its smooth/suave status impression is far more social and approachable than A314’s vibe.
However, if you are intent on changing your entire status, incl social and professional relationships then A314 oil is the way to go but its a long steep learning curve with this stuff, not something for nights out and you are going to have to relearn a surprising amount of your behaviour and worldview to go along with it. The implications of A314 are huge and I’m still learning more than eighteen months down the line.
So it looks like I will get IG over A314. Once I get the hang of pheromones, I will definitely get A314.
Hmm interesting to hear that IO and IH are sort of a quantity vs. quality thing, when it comes to conversations. I’m really curious to see how they work combined.
Mobo, can you please explain what you mean by A314 having a “steep learning curve” and “relearn your behaviour and worldview”? Thanks.
A314 sends a strong and distinct “alpha male” signal. If you want it to give you that extra edge, you need to be congruent with the signal. Body language, posture, eye contact, voice, the way you walk, everything. Also, it suggest others that you are reliable and effective. So you need to be, otherwise your long-term relations with people will be screwed. People expect more of you when you wear A314. Sometimes, some of my co-workers didn’t like when I was joking while wearing 3+ drops. Theur reactions seemed a bit like “hey, you’re supposed to guide and command us, not amuse or entertain”. Fail in any of those areas and people lose trust in you, that they wouldn’t lose if you weren’t wearing A314, because they wouldn’t have had the same expectations and preconceptions about you. When you’re not congruent with the suggestion A314 sends, people either avoid you, or give you a lot of challenges and shit-tests, to see whether or not you’re really such an alpha.
So yeah, that’s something you need to know how to wear.
. I’m generally confident and I believe I should not have a problem in doing so, but I wouldn’t mind all the help I can get when I make my move 
. However, to redeem myself, after reading about the effects of various pheromones, I also plan to use pheromones for general purposes as well (ie. at work or around school)