My name is Andy and I’m actually looking into this mostly because I have a great friend who’s a woman and we have been on the fence about dating for almost 6 months now. We are both about 30 years old, divorced (not to each other ), and have kids. I know how I feel about her and really want to start something more, but she is not sure due mostly to bad past experience. I’m interested in seeing if there might be something that could give me a slight edge to win her over. I’m really not looking to just hook up with her, I would like to just a get past the great friends area and into the more then friends area, long term relationship. I was thinking about trying Pheromones in order to help with this but really wanted to talk with people who have tried this, maybe even had similar goals as mine and see if this could possibly help. If I end up trying this it would be used on a date level (movies, dinner, est ) and not for like a club or any intense type areas (we both like book stores more then dance clubs). Any ideas to help on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
There are several directions you could go in. Let me give you one. That would be IG + IH. IG signals that you are a stable, high value man. IH adds some depth and bonding that nearly every woman likes. Women have used it for years themselves just for that reason. If you want a touch of -eNone for the sexual spark, A314 would give you that along with status. 314 and IG both play well with IH, but IG doesn’t have None. Three sprays of IH with either of the other two (especially 314) can do great things if you’ll give it 4 tries or so over one month.
Old thread, but still worth it. The 314/IG/IH thing has been around a while. Popular. Note Bosshank’s comment. Let us know what you think. There isn’t much None in 314, but it’s a factor. You could get the three items to cover all your bases. However, even if you get the 314 oil, I think most men would say IH is something valuable to steer it with. Adds real depth.
If you’re going to use None, AMMO or A314 would be the way to start with it, simply because the None is buffered to soften. In TUTH, it’s intensified. -eNone is difficult to wrap your head around, because female responses vary from liking it to being repulsed. One woman in a crowd loves 10 mcg, another is off the chart at 1 mcg. So, one spray of AMMO will work in a mixed crowd of most women for most men. Each additional spray cranks the sexual effect but also creates a little more polarity. People mistake non-attraction to None as a miss, when it is actually a hit. Use the IG and IH with AMMO and without. Compare. Get some TUTH if you can. One day, try just 3 (or even 4) sprays TUTH. You fully feel the essence of None…what it can and can’t do. You control it in the men’s line to amp up the sex factor at the right time, place.
I agree with MMD - A314 or IG based mixes look the way to go here - And combining them with IH is a good way to help overcome issues/barriers but I would say you should get some Instant Shine in there as well as it helps steer the IH/A314 bonding vibe in good ways - The only drawback with IH in mixes is that it can go too deep in not so good ways if used unsteered. And being that guy she pours her troubles out to is not a good strategy for attraction. So the IS feelgood/playful vibe is well suited here.
I’m leaning towards A314 because you are both pushing thirty and it is around then that the mature, solid, trustworthy, status/LTR qualities of A314 really tend to hit-home with a woman. The younger smart/sociable/status vibe of IG tend to go down better with younger women but you do get crossover/exceptions - its not that clear cut.
Then for a sexual - Ammo, or TUTH (it becomes less problematic as you age) would be useful but only add TUTH as your date goes-on and she’s warming-up to you. The other components in the mix will moderate its sexual overtness effectively but yes, start low and work-up till you find what she’s responsive to. And don’t use TUTH or any overt none around her period - that can go against you, badly.
P83 would be a useful secondary phero because it helps disinhibit and makes getting physical easier - Around 10mcg is a good starting concentration, with a working dose in the 20-60mcg range, depending on your other pheros.
Lastly, A314 and IH/IS, individually or together are known “Fallout” combos that with repeated exposure can encourage people to want to look-up to you or latch-on to you strongly. Which is useful if you are promoting a relationship. One important factor here is exposure, removal and re-exposure, sometimes over a prolonged period. So don’t be too much at her back and call, give her the chance to “miss you” (and your phero signature), then re-expose and repeat. Over time, this can be very engaging. Also, stepping back from someone sitting on the fence is often a way to help them see what they are missing without you. There are several threads discussing fallout in more depth that would be well worth searching out.
Hello again everyone I would just like to post an update. So I desided I should start out with the A314 and see if that offered any change at first then possibly work towards mixing and/or trying something different. With that said I went ahead and ordered some A314 (which I would like to say thank you for the gift cert and an even bigger thank you for the P130 which was included with my order). Now I wanted to take the A314 out for a “test drive” as it were before trying it out on the girl I like. Really I just wanted to see what kind of effect if any it might have on others as if it produced the wrong effect on others I might reconsider my approach before going further. So I applied two sprits of the A314, one to my neck area and the other on one of my wrists (which I then rubbed my wrists together to apply some to both). I also sprayed my shirt with two sprits of my normal cologne which has no pheromones included just a nice sent. With that I dressed rather normal (a polo and jeans), nothing facny or special just something clean looking and comfortable. At first I didn’t really notice much of a difference with the first spots I made, however I did notice a major difference when I went to the grocery store around mid day. I had one of the ladies who works there come up to me out of nowhere and started to just chat. At first I figured this was just her trying to be nice to customers however it became very clear that she was wanting to flirt with me started really opening up to me (telling me about things like her kids, how her parents live in another state, and that she is single and has been for about a month or so). I’ve never talked to her before that day and very rarely shop at that store so I know it’s not that she had seen me before or at least not seen me much if at all. It’s not uncommon for me to have conversations with complete strangers, I’m very friendly and easy to get along with, so the fact that a converstation was started didn’t strike me as out of the ordinary. But the level of openness and the fact that she clearly wanted me to know she was single and really wanted to know if I was is something rather unique. Later in the day I was running late and desided to grab a bite to eat at a McDonalds. I placed my order and held a short converstaion with the woman at the register. Nothing as long or as open as earlier, but it was very upbeat and enjoyable. We both even made a few jokes about how “healthy” McDonald’s food really is. Once my order was ready and my number had been called, I grabbed my food (to go) and headed out. The checkout lady waved good bye and smiled as I left which I of course smiled and returned way. Now here is the real surprise, I opened up my back after getting in the car and the first thing I see is a napkin with her name and phone number written on it. I’ve never been bad with the ladies and getting a date is not hard for me, but even still I’ve never had a day like this one. I suppose this all could just be a random coincidence, but it does seem to me as though having the A314 made a great difference between these girls being just nice and interested to being very open, flirty, and very forward. So far I’m just amazed and can’t wait to test this further, especially on the girl I have been trying so hard to be with. As I said before her and I are very close and have talked about dating more than a few times but it just never seems to get to there. However if she has even half as strong of an reaction as these complete strangers did I will be beyond thrilled. I want to thank you all again for your great advice and support and plan on recommending this site and store to everyone I know as well as anyone who will listen.
Thank again,
Andy
P.S. I will keep you all posted as I test more as well as when I try it out on the girl I like.
Just the dose. /b is dosed to be closer to oil in impact, whilst /a is a stronger/harder hitting dose. So the version is quite important - It will say on the bottle.
), and have kids. I know how I feel about her and really want to start something more, but she is not sure due mostly to bad past experience. I’m interested in seeing if there might be something that could give me a slight edge to win her over. I’m really not looking to just hook up with her, I would like to just a get past the great friends area and into the more then friends area, long term relationship. I was thinking about trying Pheromones in order to help with this but really wanted to talk with people who have tried this, maybe even had similar goals as mine and see if this could possibly help. If I end up trying this it would be used on a date level (movies, dinner, est ) and not for like a club or any intense type areas (we both like book stores more then dance clubs). Any ideas to help on this matter would be greatly appreciated.