I’ve been trolling the boards for the last couple of days now and found some really promising info and now believe this stuff is not just snake oil. So ready to jump in and have a go with a few of the products… just not 100% sure what to go for.
I’m 35 yrs old, 6 foot 4ish (taller in the morning… believe it or not!!!) 220 pounds (100KGs) wouldn’t say a big build, but athletic (never been in a bar fight EVER… this should tell you about my temperament). I have been singlish for the last 4 years and have averaged two home runs each year in those 4 and a few first base. Socially I interact pretty well with others – but shy (this maybe hard to believe but I have NEVER gone up to a woman in a bar and started a convo with them, it’s always been the other way around) and have good morals (more of a gentle man than arrogant). Dry sense of humor, but a lot of the time over talk people and offer advice that’s not necessarily needed. Given my size I thing a lot of people find me intimidating . Problem with this is I seem to be attracting woman that have low self esteem and want to be guided, looked after or become a sounding board for them and if things get intimate it never seems to last all that long because I cannot seem to “bend” the way they think about themselves (even if I do generally find them attractive and tell them). I’m very skilled at reading body language and intuitive to a point were I can tell the moment I walk into a room who is faking their mood and who is not… this has been a curse and a god sent in some cases, but figure I can use this skill in my favor with some of these products to perhaps help attract the right woman that will be a bit more lasting then the last few encounters. Looking for a woman that is 90 % happy with them self as well as looking for some fun… hey, if all I get is fun at the start when experimenting with this stuff I’m not going to complain. But looking for possibly long term things.
Gees, sounds like I have just written myself a web dating ad hahaha. Anyway, what should I use and what results should I expect?
I suggest you take a look at A314 first for strong alpha aura. You may think this will make them more dependant on you to unload but it shouldn’t. It also increases the awe and respect vibe which should snuff out those withe low self esteem and attract higher value women. You may feel your giving off a strong vibe now but I think its more of a comfort vibe and that why they approuch you and unload.
Next some ammo for a sexy mildly arousing aura and IO to give enough comfort and ease to make them comfortable interacting with you without going to deep. IO will help temper A314 so they will still approach but you may have to make a effort to approach a little as well if your looking for higher value women.
Be sure to check out the stickies in each forum if you haven’t already for more tips
Hey there, welcome to the forums. I’m in Australia, myself. I have found that Androtics’ service to Aus/NZ is very fast, on the order of 3 days, with no customs problems.
Your problem could be that you’re not being a gentleman, you’re being a wimp. A gentleman is not a wimp - he’s a man first, but looks out for others as well, hence the “gentle” part. But he doesn’t put her above himself. Most psychologically women want an “alpha” guy who knows where he’s going. So it’s perfectly OK, and even desirable, to get her to do things for you and for your relationship with her.
Your problem could be that you’re not being a gentleman, you’re being a wimp. A gentleman is not a wimp - he’s a man first, but looks out for others as well, hence the “gentle” part. But he doesn’t put her above himself. Most psychologically women want an “alpha” guy who knows where he’s going. So it’s perfectly OK, and even desirable, to get her to do things for you and for your relationship with her.
Hey tazz,
I wouldn’t say I’m a wimp at all. I can be quite forceful in fact. Having said i have never been in a bar fight has probably lead your comment astray. i’d rather not get involve with that sort of thing (lover not a fighter), but what tends to happen (should one break out close by… not lately because I don’t hang out at young testosterone filled bars these days) is I would happily wonder up and grab each by the scruff of the neck and hold them at arms length while they are in full swing on one another and tell them to COOL IT. The looks I get are like ‘oh crap! ok then’
I’ve had many women tell me I have a real presents about me. Not that that means it matches my personality. one example is i meet this person in a meeting she was sitting across a coffee table from me (so i could see all of her). I’m thinking, oh boy oh boy, this woman is HOT. Tried to make small talk with her, but it was hard to fit that in appropriately given the situation. She wouldn’t make eye contact with me. sensed she was uncomfortable about myself… so let things ride… about two months later I emailed her and asked her on a date. She said yes and it went great. I asked her why she couldn’t look at me when we first meet and she told me I was just to “powerful”. How she thought this is beyond me because I wasn’t the one controlling the meeting and I was wearing a polar fleece and jeans. My sister was controlling the proceedings, she was buying a house and I was just there for moral support. I hardly said 2 dozen words…
Anyway, not a wimp - or push over. But do tend to put woman on a pedestal if I REALY like them… what woman doesn’t like that feeling that she is the most important thing in the world (of course not on a first, second or even third date) it comes with time.
Thanks all for advise so far… any more comment welcome and mixes that I could use.
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Thanks for the into and the GC (that I don’t appear to have received just yet). Can you tell me what the title of the email would have been so I can have a look in my junk folder. I get about 50 spam emails per day, so have a LOT to sift though to find it if it’s in there.
I have made a purchase and have been using them for almost a week now with some interesting results. I’m keen to get a few more and would like to use the $50 for these if I can to lighten the cost a bit. Please advice.
Should be from orderdept (AT) androticsdirect (DOT) com
(I changed the @ and . to (AT) and (DOT) so that they won’t get spammed by bots!)
And lucky you with your extra $25! I remember it being just over shipping. Damn those international orders
Anyway, I’m from NZ too! Nice to see another kiwi on here! Be sure to start a journal and start entering into it. It’s a great way of sharing your experiences, getting help, and most importantly - giving back to Androtics (Your journal and experience contributions are used as part of their field research)
This is a totally fun place and I hope you enjoy it!
Hey man, welcome to the forum… I would suggest countering your shyness with measure like practicing speech, socializing with your current friends…
As I read somewhere in this forum that you need to hav some game to get things rolling… Having more self-confidence and being bold & having pheromones will get you further…
Hey Snake. Thanks for your advice. I have thought about doing a toast masters course… but really don’t think I need to right this minute. It’s not my style at the moment, but wouldn’t say I won’t do it in the future. I do have a game; it’s just a little different to most peoples. If you read a few of my other posts on the forum you will see I had a LOT of fun in younger years (I think a bit more than most consider average). I have no problem telling a woman that she’s hot and I want to jump her bones. But before that I’ll stay in the background and work out who is going the say yes or no. Of course I don’t actually say it in those words… hmmmm, ok, maybe I have a few times when I was really drunk and it did work one or two of those times
It’s hard to put your personality down on paper and keeping it brief as not to bore the pants of people (hmmm now there’s an idea!! Haha NA don’t think that will work!) so that they can tell you what to use here.
I have taken advice and purchased all of the ones that the good folk here have recommended and I’m working though them doing the experimental stage now… the ones that I thought might be good turn out not to be so good for me. This in its self is quite interesting as its actually telling me about my own mone signature that I didn’t have a clue about how it was made up before. I can then relate that back to interactions that I’ve had with people in the past and think “oh, right, I get it now… to some degree”. In the short time I have been testing these, my world has been turn upside down (in a good way!) and so may new doors have been opened for me to explore now. I’m still learning and there is so much to learn. Being quite a lateral thinker it’s going to take some time to process all the new info and add it to the old and edit out the rubbish… But I tell you, after that it’s going to be golden!
Hey Leaf…
Another Kiwi!!! Great to see I’m not the only one here
Yes indead, I got very lucky with getting a $50 GC. Trust me, its gone already
I most certainly will be starting a journal soon and reporting back what I have found. For the moment I’m just getting a handle on what each one does and then the real fun will begin hehe
I know man… Its something that if it’ll work, when it’ll work, it’ll be great… I just want to purchase 2, so I don’t run down by information overload… Just wanna use ammo and instant shine, but read that instant shine kinda makes one feel funny…
But lets see…
One bummer is that I live so far away, that the delivery cost is as much as the product’s cost..
I’ve used instant Shine and it didn’t seem to have any “odd” affects on me. The best way is to start off is with just one spray and work your way up. Any self affects from shine are only going to be good IMO.
Ammo is not available at the moment, but then it is perhaps you could get that and a ToGo bottle of shine if you’re worried its not going to agree with you.
Alfa1 and I are probably in the same boat. Delivery cost to here is $23ish.
Instant Shine is great! I felt wonderful the first time I tried it. Some people may experience a downer in their second or third time (I did), but now it is an essential part of my phero collection. I love it! And not only do you get self effects - but others around you feel great too
I’ve fully planned my next order too. But my debit card doesn’t have enough on it and I don’t have overdraft. I need to transfer some money over. Which means having to wait until Monday =\
Argh! I need to introduce a friend to phero’s so we can start splitting delivery cost hehe
Yeah, I hear you. If I was in JAFA land (sorry dude, just had to say that… ) I’d be happy to set something like that you with you. In CHCH though. oh well
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