Hi, From Tasmania Australia & Very curious

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Hi forum,
I am Shibou and I’ve been reading up on these pheromones. I find this subject really interesting; just the idea of

a smell of a certain molecular structure can create certain feelings and senses external to the body. I am

interested in trying this out for personal purposes and scientific… well sort of - more curiosity. This curiosity

was more initially based from random youtube hopping and eventually finding those abc 20/20 videos and the BBC vids

I frequent downtown hobart and salamanca which is basically the major bar/nightclub district. Now this is probably

somewhere but I can not seem to find it but if were to try out some of these pheromones; what products would i want

to try or mixes that would create the most obvious and noticeable reactions and effects. I also do ballroom, latin

and new vogue dancing frequently so I am also interested in products or mixes that would create and effect at

dance.

Some stuff about my personality. Sometimes my friends have pointed out to me that I can be as thick a plank of

wood(and I’m not talking sexually either). What i mean is that noticing things isn’t my forte so this is why I am

inquiring about stuff that has strong reactions.

Note:These are enquiries about two separate list; one for nightclub runs so probably something along the lines of

seduction, easy to talk to… etc. the usually things that go hand in hand with seduction; and one for dance so

probably something that makes them feel like they want to talk and probably some sort of seduction. Oh and I

already understand that this is only taking care of the general chemical levels in the brain to do with the certain

situations to just make it easier to obtain something and more easily map the right nerual pathway and that you

still have to not be complete prick etc.etc. i read those threads.

I am 19 caucasian with a tan(primary blood heritage: Danish, New Zealand(native), German and some european

heritage) (secondary blood heritage : a bastardization of whole pile of asian and euro heritage) and I am computer

technician/application developer for a school and a freelance webdesigner during everyday of the week I am not

working the school job. Hope I am building a picture of who I am here anyway I will keep going.

I probably have more of an R&D personality than anything else or more accurately one that suits R&D thinking -

absorbing large amounts of information at one time and a thirst to know more of something when I feel I do not know

enough and its about something always. (This is in every aspect of my life whether its girls or just something i

notice in passing on the street too actual research for app dev). As a side effect my social personality takes a

massive beating to the point of having bad body language as in mediocre. Now the psychosomatic will hopefully take

care of the the bad body language thing. Which I am wondering the more I analyse pheromones on a theoretical level

  • whether it actually the other person that is actually effected or is the user that get effected on a the brain

level. Which brings a very skeptical side in; is it just psychosomatic or a bit of both; in both senses. (i hope I

am making sense watching two shows at once (split audio) one in Polish and with subtitles and the other in

japanese.)

Anyway that is me.
Also before I wrap up - Im one of those sad guys that read magic bullet ebook from the attractionforum(i think

thats what its called) and some of the the routine books and still read over them..

To wrap up lets recap what I’ve said

  1. product or mix to try that is hugely noticeable for nightclub or bar situation
  2. product or mix to try that is hugely noticeable for dance training/lesson (ballroom latin newvogue) situation
    3.it should be something that is like a 2by4 hit you over the head or something along those lines. Oh and the GHOSTING effect - well that is not obvious cause that happens now without pheros.
    4.I’m 19, caucasion with primary blood of new zealand, Danish and German

umm… yeh ask if you need anymore information im genuinely curious and will test out whatever products on average suggested. (as in when you the forum suggest something hopefully there will be multiple suggestion and that won’t suggest entirely different things.

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Welcome to the Forum!!!

Great Intro btw and gives us lots of information to go on.

  1. AMMO/TUTH are great components for clubs. TUTH would usually be reserved for when things progress. AMMO is a great all around attraction product.
  2. Instant Honesty/Instant Shine for the ballroom dancing maybe with a shot of AMMO as well. IH Provides deeper convos, so with the dance classes you can have that passion with a deeper connection. Instant Shine is a great all around feel good pheromone that just yells out youthful virility.
  3. Remember that hit’s aren’t just blatant, a lot of the time they’re subliminal and you as the person would have to know what to look for too. It’s not going to make them come out and profess their lust for you but it can do the trick having the right personality and situation. Nothing is ever a 100% everytime product. However, if you want blatant results I would get Instant Jerk. That will show you obvious hits.

Here’s also a rundown of the pheromones and a great writeup by Steve on how to find your sweet spot.

Good luck and welcome again!

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Shibou welcome to the forums!

Although that intro was spaced all kinds of funky, it was a good read ! Gotta say that the R&D mindsets are definitely appreciated here, and we just need you to get a little bit more knowledgeable in the noticing of hits so you can pick up on the mones working in your favor. They do work on the subconscious level and yes you do have to steer things in the right direction but they can be a huge help on your playing field.

Heres a helpful thread on recognizing indicators of interest from women

I would suggest ammo and some shine to help you out with noticing hits. Also maybe choose CTTM2 since it will have people even opening up conversations and interest with you from what some users have reported. Beware, this can cause people to talk your ear off and you may find it hard to get away as they open up and feel liek theyve known you forever. ammo will be your most versatile all around attractant that should generate you some nice attraction hits and its scented at cologne strength and you will probably get lots of compliments on that alone.

I have not tried instant jerk, but a lot of people report that if you want proof that pheros work then to try this product since it will attract girls that like that male signature and will make you more care free and alpha, and it also has -none in it for attraction.

Hope this gives you a little bit more of an education on some of the products around here and helps you in the right direction for products to purchase. If you have anymore questions, just blurt them out ! :slight_smile:

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thanks for the suggestions and advice. Katalyst and P51Mustang, I Might try AMMO, CTTM2 aswell as maybe try one of those random puatives like the p88. MX347 I think was also one that caught my attention from some of the comments around the forum.

Also guys how would you get your both high diffusion and silage for these products if possible I don’t quite understand yet the meaning behind diffusion and silage according to radius of effect. (this is coming from the radius thread. If you guys recon I should move to that thread for this question say so.)

If anyone else has any ideas/suggestions it would be great.

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P88 is out of stock although it may be restocked in the future as there is a voting thread about it in the store section to return. mx347 is A314 in the alcohol spray form and hits very hard with the alpha vibe and wears out much faster since its in the alcohol and not oil version like A314.

Diffusion means how it permeates into the air from your skin. this is best accomplished by what AD already offers, an alcohol base and scent to help it evaporate out into the air. Its also suggested that to get the best effects that you apply them to pulse points and high heat areas like your neck, wrists, inner elbows, forearms because the heat can help to diffuse them as well. If you like self effects definitely choose the neck.

Putatives and mx’s are best reserved for experienced users and blind testing to see the effects they cause without being biased but if you read consistent reports and thats why mustang has recommended it, that it is probably a pretty good solid mix that delivers consistent results and therefore would be okay for a newcomer to maybe test the waters with it.

Radius is usually within up close to 10 feet although some users report even getting hits at 20 feet away, it all depends on whether your inside, outside, upwind, downwind, etc. They will react on parts in the brain and it depends on the individual and there personality and a multitude of other things how they react to it, thats why its important for you to steer things in the direction you choose with the help of the mones.

Keep reading and utilize that search tab at the top of the page to pull up answers over years of information. Reading and asking questions is the best way to learn so dont be shy or feel like you cant ask questions either !

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From experiences,

This is just a theory behind it. Akuto scented products have amazing diffusion and sileage. I think this is because the pheromones used have more of a long lasting impact on the wearer. The Neroli, FF21, FF22 scents seem to have the best diffusion and lower sileage. Again I can’t tell what’s going on with people’s minds when I leave but as in terms of effects from others, the Akuto scent packages worked the best.

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Welcome to Pherotalk Shibou!

Well, the recommendations were right on and you said something in your introduction about your friends saying you can be as thick as wood.

In order to test these products out and be successful in your pheromone usage you have to be able to observe your surroundings. You will eventually become aware of everything and the reactions of everyone around you without trying to hard.

These products are not only for sexual attraction and if you allow it can assist to develop many areas of your life.

Your gc is on it’s way.

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hey this may seem a stupid question is there by chance any pheromone that effects the user to enhance brain attentiveness to human detail - eg. IOI’s etc. so i can notice the effects of the other pheromones easier… probably a silly question. Anyway thanksa Mickaelia look forward to the gc so I can buy more upfront :stuck_out_tongue: :smiley::stuck_out_tongue: lol.

Also what effects could be usefull for a Information Technology - level 1 helpdesk/ Business situation to try and grease the axcels of the wheels of pushing up the corporate ladder and clients?

Starting Uni... Some mixes?