hi phew well this forums immense as in huge.and a lot going on.
well 1st i am derek all my friends call me “del” for short. iam 54 going on 6 hehe aww why grow old peacefully. i live in the u.k in lancashire.i havnt had a girl friend in about 3 to 4 years there was a blip in between,that stopped me being able to go out but say 3 years.i am shy until the ice is broken.i am told i am over polite and to much of a gentlemen and why i never get anywere mmmm maybe.i read a piece on pheromones some prof guy saying the pheromones come from under our arms.but because of our sterile society we pour under arm sprays on and over dress and it never gets to were its going.young men have it strongest and like everything else gets less with age.hahahahaha.and we can use lab made pheromones as a substitute and send a better signal.so i did a search and eventually came here however because of the blip i mentioned and my desktop getting fried its taken me some time to get to this point.i had a quick look while trying to find the newbie section earlier today and i see much talk on the advertised pheromones and mix and match and have been trying to get an idea of needs,i am 5.10 and half and heavy set big shouldered i am told i have a presence when i enter a room and being on the heavy set side could be taken as challenging until folk talk to me.then you find i am polite friendly, love a laugh, and fun and a good joke. and can take more than i can give which many jokers cant.so really i never really find the ladies feel sexually attracted more wow you are a nice friend and thats it.or on the other hand i attract the messers who like to use a fella and take the micheal.so not sure what more to say but will answer what i can and well hello to everyone 
HI del,
Welcome.
Do you want to try out pheromones from Androtics here?
What is your purpose of using pheromones? Is it for ltr, making friend, sexual, gaining respect and so on?
Do you have anybody as your targets?
Then we can give you some recommendations on pheromones.
Cheers
hi yes i think i may be trying from here and while i would like a ltr,makeing friends and have intimate relations is also on the agenda while i still can 
.i dont have any erm targets only the ones i shoot at, at weekends hahaha.sorry no ladies in spesh sight right now.
Heya Del!
Welcome to the friendliest, most informative forum on pheromones! We can help you to use pheromones that will assist you in meeting your goals in terms of social interactions. It is important that we do a little prying, however to help determine the pheromones best suited to help you get going and find out what exactly it is you are looking for. Sounds like you are primarily concerned with getting more spontaneous interactions from females, correct? It also sounds like you are at least a little bit shy from the get go? How do you approach a woman you are interested? How do you determine whether or not a woman is interested in you? Where are you going to try to meet women pubs, clubs, church functions?
One thing it is important to stress is that the pheromones will not do the work for you. If you are shy or not picking up on flirt signals they generally won’t make a woman come on to you out of the blue, (although I have read about such things in the forum ). Based on what you were saying about your size and the perception that you cut an intimidating figure you may want to at least at the beginning, play with the socials. Social pheromones such as Instant Shine will give you a more youthful vibe and help you to come off as charismatic. Perhaps a shot of Turn up the heat (TUTH) applied on the low neck so once you lure her in she gets a whiff of your more sensual side would keep you out of the friend zone. I’d say start with a ToGo vial of I/S to get you the frequency of social interaction you seek, then get a ToGo of TUTH to increase the intensity of that interaction.
Hello Del and welcome to the forum.
The big thing to remember is that the pheros are not a magic potion. They will not make ladies drop off the ceiling into your lap. They will however give you and edge when you use that politeness, friendliness and great sense of humor.
If you are looking for a great all around product you can give Ammo a try. It has just enough none in it to help get you noticed (that is the key component the young guys have and tapers off as we get older as you mention) but it is balanced enough you could even wear it to work.
If you think your size creates a somewhat imposing figure then think about IS. It helps lighten the mood around you and helps people feel happy to be near you.
If you are a little shy at first then IO can help open up comversations. But again the key here is you have to talk too. They just will not come up and talk and talk if you are not. But if you say something to get things started, then often the IO will open the verbal floodgates.
I hope this helps some.
hi i will be hopeing to meet up in pubs clubs etc, mainly yes i am a little shy with the opener as soon as that 1st ice is broken i am ok .i do catch the attractions but i guess the over polite side of me stops me charging in and picking up on it so have lost quite a few relationships on indescision,and i guess this is the 1st time i have admitted that to myself.thanks to all for the welcome and offers of advice cheers
hi thanks for your reply and with the replies so far i am glad i havnt just rushed in and bought, peoples experiences count for a lot and tell you more than a label can. and i am thankful for your help cheers ..
Welcome to Pherotalk Del!
I had some questions myself when reading your introduction and I am glad that chris and boss was able to ask first.
I am still not sure whether or not you want a relationship or you want to appeal more to these women and eventually get laid. I am sorry for being so blunt but hey sometimes we look for different things and narrowing it down really helps.
We here at Androtics are all about bettering ourselves and helping persons to do the same. I get the feeling that you are not 100% to sure of yourself and women can sense that. Women find confidence sexy even more so than men. If a woman sees you acting confident and get that he is so comfortable in your skin thing. I tell you, knowing what you are all about you could look like big foot and we would come running.
The guys are more equipped at this point to assist you with your game but personally I think you should start with the social pheromones to get out of your shell and then progress to the sexual pheromones.
I also suggest a good reading in the mens’ section. We are a pretty helpful bunch so ask all the questions you want. 
Your GC was issued!
hi mickaelia. i would both like a rerlationship and get laid in no real order.i after so many years without getting laid would be fine with it..and if it goes some were fine.yes a little introvert to start but i dont like to be or appear pushy.i have been haveing a nosey round in various sections and i am getting a few ideas but will take a bit of reading as there is a library full of stuff here
hi just noticed that g.c is issued at the bottom of your reply,can i ask were this appears and how it is used sorry if i am missing some info that explains…del
Based on what you’re saying here, sounds like self-confidence may be slowing you down. I definitely think I/S is the way to go here. Once again it will help you give off a vibe of youth and charisma. I would use application points near the face, such as high chin or upper lip so that you can get the self-effects which are a boost to self-confidence. Instant shine is the product that I have seen had the most visible positive effects. Once you’ve found your “sweet spot” (amount required to illicit the amount of interaction you are looking for), you can add different pheros for layering effects.
I’d recommend TUTH or Ammo, (if it is ever available again). Congruence is key! If you wear a lot of I/S you have to back it up with your actions, really jump out of your shell and get past your comfort zone by being talkative and lively. The self effect boost in confidence will help with that though, for sure.
I haven’t personally had a lot of luck with Ammo, but I’ve never been a “flirty” kind of guy so I think the main issue for me is not being true to the scent. Come Talk to Me is a product that you can use to draw people to you like bees to honey. Best app points for CTTM on hands and hair for maximum dispersion. TUTH will keep you out of the friend zone but you want to take it easy with application because if the level of anderostenone or “none” is too high it can cause an O/D with some potentially negative side effects. Best app points low throat or chest so that you can use the socials, (I/S, CTTM) to draw them in and get the scent of TUTH once close up to have an effect.
Once again welcome, hope I could be of help and good hunting!
cheers bud, i will have a good think on all the replys and advice there is some interesting thoughts here and experiences.to draw upon