Well, i TRIED to give a hint in the chatbox, but noone reads that thing apparently, so let’s try this again:
For as much uproar as there is for MX292, those 6 bottles left in the store sure are just sitting there…
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand GO!
I’m a 16 year-old-junior in High School. Is this too intense for me and my peers, do you think?
If not, I’m jumping on it.
If you’re 16, i’d actually stay away from this for now. Although it IS very well buffered, it’s also very high in -none. Might just serve to scare away the girls at your age. Just my opinion, though.
Well, nonetheless, I appreciate your input. I’ll stick to my Instants for now.
I did some looking around the forums, and I probably wouldn’t be allowed to order it anyways, since it’s in the Advanced section. I’m rather new here, and though I’ve reported every noticeable effect each time I apply a spray, I realize the Reporter status/privileges are well-deserved by the more-knowledgeable people who hold them.
Whenever you folks need another guinea pig though, I’m ready and willing =]
Hmmm, there seems to be an endles supply ofthat MX292 stuff. I wonder when the heck MX305 and its siblings will ever show up again??? Or what about that IFM stuff???
Hint for Androtics: If you make it, they WILL buy it! 
They can’t make IFM, since it’s main ingredient is patented and would be expensive as all to buy. They’re trying to put that money instead into new molecules that may be better. So don’t hold your breath until it comes back into stock, i just don’t think it’s gonna happen for awhile.
As for the Raw Power test pack (MX305-310), they’re waiting for the people who grabbed the 17 or so packets of the first batch to report on it, before making more of them. I’m afraid i’m a little guilty on this one. Since it was game scented through some miscommunication (wasn’t in the original specs for it), i figured they’d make a new batch real fast and the test info from mine wouldn’t be of much use. Now that i’ve heard they’re waiting on us, i’ve dived into my Raw Power testing, starting today. It’s still gonna be awhile though, since it takes me a week+ usually to find my sweet spot, sometimes more if it’s a hard MX to get ahold of. But i’m working on it. 
Oops, that’s it folks. They be all gone now. Now to make off with my share of the MX292 booty! Mwahahahahaha… 
Who owns the patent/where can I get it from? I really wanted to try some =(
FRACK!!!
Well, IFM is a formula from Androtics, so you won’t be able to buy it anywhere else, i’m afraid. I’m trying to remember who the patent is to… i’m thinking it was for Erox. Patent ends in 2012, if i’m not mistaken. 
You may be able to look around for either A-1 or Androstenedione, but i’m not sure anywhere sells it as a single molecule (feel free to check) and to be honest, i still wouldn’t recommend it. Without the other molecules in the formula, it’s supposed to be pretty rough and can cause depression in men. There was still a small problem (like 4% of guys) with the IFM formula, so i would think it would be larger without the extras. But that’s just my thoughts.
Well that’s messed up…especially because someone JUST recommended it for me! If any of you have some IFM laying around I’d be happy to buy it =)
And thanks for the info Mr. Feel Good
edit: nm just saw the message steve left in store
I read a post by Steve in that Email About Out of Stock thread, in which he said there was some kinda fluke it was creating in the backstore or backroom? And that it had to be deactivated for a few days until that could be fixed. The only reason i knew about it was that Steve said he restocked the IG, so i figured when one thing gets restocked, sometimes other things do as well…
No problem, my good man! It’s my duty to help out when i can. Well, actually, it’s my duty to please that booty. But i also like to help out.
Let me clarify
Yes they can make it they have chosen not to at this time because it is expensive to synthesis and they wanted to concentrate on some other molecules for a while. It has little to do with the patent held by erox. The patent states it can not be used in a perfume or cologne carrier. It will be back as Jasmin stated in her post on this but there is not date set in stone as to when this will be. From what I have been told they do not have to wait until 2012 to be able to sell or use it in IFM. IFM only comes in a herbal carrier not in a perfume or cologne.
It doesn’t cause depression which is a clinical condition, it causes a down feeling mostly seen as it wears off and your coming down off it which is why we suggest trying it the first time to the back of the neck. 99% of the men who use it have no problem with it and just like other self effects from products when first used they diminish as the body adjusts to them.
Steve has been restocking MX292 pretty frequently. He does them in batches and I am sure there will be more. The notify my section of the store in not yet done. Tests were run and there was a problem. Steve should announce when its up and running.
Tisha
The term “A-1” was invented over at LS where they sell it as a Chem Set bottle. Be careful with it though.
Sorry guys, guess i need to watch my terminology a bit more. You’re correct, both of ya, just wasn’t thinking too much at the time and typed that out real fast. I’ll try to watch what i type a little more, k? Now then, hugs and kisses all around!
We’ll carry androstadienone again, but we get it from the original chemist Erox and Pherin.com (the patent holders) used for their original studies.
This is not the 5.4 cent per milligram Chinese stuff most vendors sell to you at something like a 185 times (18,500%) markup. Even though insanely high markups like that can drive normally good people to the greediest of acts (Canada now sells Chinese sourced food and other products as “Made in Canada”) , I learned early on not to trust China when any kind of R&D is involved (which it is at this website).
While Chinese made product is sometimes acceptable for certain commercial projects when you have a good analytical lab double check their work, Chinese labs are too sloppy and inconsistent for anything involving research. In fact, their inconsistency would invalidate most of the data we attempt to collect (and has destroyed several research studies, including one at Duke University).
The Chinese labs ship imaginative COAs (Certificate of Analysis) along with their off-white and yellow powders that shows purities of 98 to 99.x%. However, when you have a good lab like Intertek Caleb-Brett double check their work, sometimes you find product that doesn’t comform to standard at all (i.e., according to TLC - thin layer chromatography – it’s simply not what you ordered). Alternatively, with methods such as HPLC you find purity numbers as low as 56%, with highs in the low 90s when the stars align just right.
Coming from a country that poisoned tens of thousands of children and eldery by using melamine as a protein substitute in order to increase profits, you can’t even begin to guess what’s in the impurities. Especially if they catch wind that the final product is to be used as a pheromone, and not for medical purposes. That’s when you get weird, cakey, off-colored stuff that offgases in ways no pheromone molecule should (or could, really).
China really needs to return more to their ancient ethical code. They need to start “losing face” more when they produce substandard product, especially product that could harm or even kill. I don’t know if China has a a process to weed out dishonorable and shameful people like Hari Kari in Japanese culture, but they definitely need one if they’re ever going to evolve create things of the quality that the US, Japan and Germany can.
It’s essential to be quality oriented for long-term success. They definitely need more quality oriented heros in modern day China, like Dr. Genichi Taguchi has been in Japan during the last century. (a true Japanese hero; one that we can all learn from)
The problem is, when China creates the quality of product that other countries do, you can bet that the prices will be similar to what is paid to a good lab here in the US or Europe. You usually get the super low prices by cutting essential corners, not spending the time to check each step of your work, and by generally doing things the wrong way. This does not settle well with people like me at all. (nor does it tend to work out for anyone in the long term; it’s just delaying inevitable evolution – this world and the perhaps the physical universe itself seems to be allergic to supporting crap in the long term)
China’s myopic nonsense aside, with the excellent source we use, androstadienone costs us nearly as much as what we sell it for in the ExperiMone series. This is OK since we get valid dosing data in return.
Our sticking point is that, at the moment, most of our cash resources are tied putting molecules such as P96, TAF and TAB into commercial production. We’re also investing in alternative versions of androstenone and some other key molecules.
In the meantime, you can get excellent quality, fully licensed androstadienone from naturalattraction.com.
If you don’t get any deleterious self-effects (it can make people like me suicidally depressed), it’s a great molecule. It’s almost miraculous in terms of how it can relax and even create euphoric states in women (and biologically gay men). It’s definitely worth our time & effort to create alternative molecules that can trigger most of the positives, with less of the negatives.
They’ve traded their dignity and name for money and power. Like how the CEOs here rob the public, the same is being done in China.
I am told that the Chinese lost their wise and educated people in their cultural revolution. These people were all killed because they were a threat to the rising powers. These same powers have shown that they value life little, and are obsessed with money and appearances.
I am told that China produces many things of excellent quality, and that Americans only get the low quality stuff because that is what they choose to buy from China. Maybe… but China is getting an increasingly bad reputation in America for all manner of things, from poisoned toothpaste to poisoned dog food to toxic toys and now we’re hearing about toxic drywall!
I think China is shooting themselves in the feet, both at the same time, with excellent aim. It won’t be too long now before we see them start to lose stability, and when they do… the whole world will feel it.
I think this has a lot to do with having so many people that life is not valued. The Japanese have much less land and much fewer people… perhaps this accounts for the differences, to a degree?
Quality versus quantity. In the end, quality always wins out.
TAB ??? Is that a typo or a little slip of something new ? Come on you can tell us… we like new molecules
Naturalattraction.com has good stuff but they don’t indicate whats in the product anywhere or what it does. Can you give us a clue as to which one would be the best bet if your looking for A-1 . Do they sell it In raw form to the public at Pherin.com ? I don’t think the sell to the general public there or at least I cant find a link stating they do. This is why people end up buying the crap from unscrupulious dealers. If a consumer new to mones wants something he/she will find it where they can they really don’t care about the politics of the mone world. Its unfortunate but factual.
I am not saying I don’t care because I do. I have used mones for a long time now and have learned a lot about the unscrupulous venders and where to shop and not shop from Jassy but from a inexperienced consumers perspective its different.
Tisha