How can I test?

I just started an improv class. I used to perform improv but that was over 6 years ago and I haven’t been on stage since, so I’m taking a beginner class. It’s nice to get back to basics.

It’s also nice that the class happens to be all women except for me and one other (married) guy. :smiley:

To the first class I wore:

2 drops A314 on the wrists
5 sprays Instant Shine: one on each wrist, three on my throat
2 sprays Instant Openness on my neck

Class went really well for me, but since it was the first class I have no idea how much was due to pheromones and how much was just plain old me. I mean for instance, I got the effects you’d expect from A314, but I was also the oldest person in the room, probably the most experienced improvisor other than the teacher, and way more alpha than the other male, so I’d just expect to the the leader of the group and get the other A314 effects even without A314. Likewise I was relaxed and open and having fun, but that’s what the whole class is designed to bring out in everyone.

And since we’re all going to be getting closer over the weeks (naturally) I don’t know how I can experiment with the pheros and separate their effects from everything else going on. Still, being a weekly class, it seems like this might be a great opportunity for some testing if someone can figure out how to structure the tests.

Any suggestions?

Ksage,

I wish we had stuff like that here in redneck TN. Just doesn’t exist here :frowning:

Maybe you could try and not wear anything to class and then 1/2 way through apply some. Not sure if it’s possible, but perhaps you might be able to see a sudden change. I believe some other users suggest that adding pheromones half-way through a date have a dramatic affect.

I have never tried so I wouldn’t know. My reservations on this theory might be that the people you are testing on might become bewildered by your phero-signature and thus might not respond at all.

Omg! I wanted to do improv classes! Where is it? I want to go, too!

How long are each of the classes? (Duration-wise)

The BEST thing to do is enter with a clean palette. Don’t ear anything at first, jsut to establish how people are treating you sans-pheros.

THEN, midway through the class, hen you establish the baseline of the class and how they behave and such, dismiss yourself to the bathroom, spritz something on, and return. Social effects are sooo easy to determine when you have a pretty good established idea of the rapport between everyone and how the group gels together.

You can drop in different pheromonal stimuli and see how the attitudes change, the physical vicinities between everyone change, watch the whole dynamic shift around a little bit.

Fun experiments! Fun to do in a closed room with people you’re stuck with for a while. I always tell college students that I’m jealous that they get to be locked in an unventilated room with close proximity to a lot of people for a prolonged amount of time. Is your improv class set up much the same way (except less people)?

I have trouble with a314 and class. People talk to me less, at any dose. You are already the alpha, I don’t think you would need to wear a314, and if you do probably 1 drop would suffice. You may come across to serious.

You may want to cut back on the shine too. Some people are getting great results at lower doses. (even as low as 1 spray. 2-3 seems to be an average dose) Plus if you are in a smaller closed room, you could be pherobombing the room. (may not be a bad thing though.)

If you see communication being an issue, you may want to boost the openness up by a spray. alpha androstenol is kinda fun. It will soften your masculine vibe though. So if you end up puting on high doses of openness like 4-5 sprays, I would wear the a314. (probably 1 drop though, the classes i’ve been in tend to be a relaxed atmosphere)

Not telling where I’m going, but there are good classes near you at Improv Olypmic West in Hollywood.

Usually 3 hours (7-10pm). Different groups do it differently.

Improv class takes place in a ventilated theatre. Most of the class has two people on stage and everyone else scattered in the seats. If it were a lot of group activities I could totally see how the pheromones would lead to visible effects, but I think in this situation the exercises we are doing and the one-on-one on stage situation combined are so much more powerful than pheremones that they are going to overwhelm any noticable effect. I mean, it’s hard to tell if the pheremones are creating space invasions when most of the time people are sitting 3 chairs away and the rest of the time we’re being instructed to do a love scene. :smiley:

Toil, thanks for the advice.

One of the funny things that happened to me in class was we did a mirroring exercise where you just stand and face each other and mirror whatever physical movment the other person makes. I did the exercise with the woman who had been sitting next to me for 15 minutes and I led first. The funny thing was that when it was time for her to take the lead she “didn’t hear” the instructor say to switch and just kept following me. Too alpha? :cool:

The natural flow of the course (both within each class and over the whole series of classes) is one of opening up and getting closer to everyone else in the class. I’m torn between making that easier by dropping the A314 or taking advantage of it by keeping up the A314 and experiencing the openness and closeness with the alpha added. Since I usually invite openness and closeness by dropping my natural alpha behaviors and that’s part of what class encourages, I’ll probably stick with the A314 and have this new experience of having more alpha tension along with the openness and closeness.

I’m pretty resistant to Instant Shine which is why I used so much. It’s also a great vibe for class, so I’m not worried about pherobombing. This was really the first time I felt Instant Shine having an effect.

The IO is really just for me, to help me take the edge off spending most of the day alone and the previous 90 minutes stuck in traffic. It’s kind of doing the other people in class a disservice to chemically open them up since one big part of class is to learn to do that on your own. I’m going to cut down on that over time.

That class sounds like fun.

With the a314 or any pheromone congruency with the signiture is something to take into consideration. A314 is pretty serious, but if you are open and inviting that is going to have a larger effect than the phermones. I decided to go overboard today with a314. I put 4 drops 5 sprays of mx208, and 17.5 mcg betanol. I had a lot of people similing at me when I was at the doctors and the Doc himself was rather helpful and even took my suggestions against his normal actions. He was very friendly.

lastly, womens sence of smell is about 40% more accute then mens. So your high tolerance my be to much for them. Everybody is different so do whatever gets you good results.

Yeah, well, I’m coming around to your POV Toil. One of the key things in improv (as well as seduction) is staying present and aware. It’s clear to me that by half way into the 3 hour class, I’m way in spaceland, and next week I’ll test the theory that it may be due to overdosing. (I plan to drop down to 1 drop A314, 1 spray IO, and 1 spray Instant Shine.)

I’ve also has some fairly bad results in a couple of situations (outside of class) where the other people froze up or closed down a bit and/or my emotional sensitivity was deadened. (Both times I was wearing 2 drops A314 and no other pheros.) In either case, the net results was I did not create the emotional connection and feeling of trust and safety that I am used to creating and suffered the consequences.

So I don’t know if this is really an OD or a negative effect or if I simply need to be more conscious of the effect so I can be more pro-active in working with it. Anybody have any opinions?

So far my hottie score (in class) is the woman I’m most attracted to is clearly attracted to me, despite being married (which is a big problem for me), another woman I who I like as a person but find a turn off physically is definitely interested, and I’m not that attracted to anyone else in class. However, we just had a very hot new girl join class and I’m very curious to see how this plays out. She’s too immature for me to want to “suit up” and seduce and too hot and too young for her to want to (or really even know how to) seduce me, but it will be interesting to see how the vibe between us grows.