Newbie with lots of questions!

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(quick note: I know this is a pretty long intro, so please feel free to skip the intro and go to the questions if you prefer, I bolded where they begin)

Hello Everyone,

I have been a big fan and a long time lurker of this forum. I happen to be an active member of several other forums and you guys are BY FAR the most helpful, friendly, and community oriented.

(/suckup :smiley: )

Anyway, some quick background information on me:

I am a 20 year old college student in Southern California. I am about 6 feet and 170 pounds with an average build. I have dark brown hair and eyes and decent complexion. I consider myself decent looking but I know (and have been told) that I look pretty good when I put extra time and effort into myself.

I tend to be fairly shy around people I don’t know, but the relationships I build with men and women are usually fairly deep, albeit slow to develop. Oddly enough (and one of the things I hope to improve upon with pheromones) is that I act very much in charge and alpha-male when I am with close friends and people I have known for a long time, but I am very quiet and uncomfortable around people I don’t know.

I have a little background with Scent of Eros and Alter Ego. I have used them on occasion over the past year or two with inconclusive results. However, I recently decided to make the jump and build a solid collection of products to experiment with. Here’s what I’ve purchased so far:

Already had:
Alter Ego
Scent of Eros

Just Purchased:
Instant Shine
Instant Honesty
Instant Openness
A314
Turn up the Heat

About to buy (if any of you convince me to that is :smiley: ):
Ammo
Instant Gentleman
Anything else you guys suggest

I have a few purposes in mind for the pheromones, and I think I have a realistic understanding of their capabilities:

I would like to remove the mental block I have on needing to be “comfortable” to act as an alpha male.

I would like to be more confident in introducing and closing with women

I would like to be able to more easily carry a conversation with new and recently introduced people.

I would like to gain a better sense of when it is time to make a move.

With all of these things, I understand the primary factor holding me back is me, but I think (and please correct me if I am wrong) that knowing I have a little booster on my side will give me the confidence I need to achieve those goals. And to be honest, if the only effect on me was placebo but it worked anyway, it would still be worth every penny :slight_smile: .

On to the questions:

I had a few specific situations where I’m not quite sure what the best mix is.

In college classes, where I want to initiate conversation with people sitting nearby and build a rapport with them over time.

At small (10-30 people) parties where I know the hosts and a few people but not most of the guests.

With girls that I am friends with but have not ever been sexual with.

With girls that I am friends with and with whom I occasionally am sexual with (increasing the frequency without straining the friendship is the goal here obviously :smiley: )

With confronting someone (male and female) about a recent conflict or argument we each had.

I’m really excited to become an active member of this forum and finally do some serious experimentation with pheromones. Any answers/responses you guys give are greatly appreciated. I know you all are busy and I don’t expect answers to everything, just any pointers you have time for!

Thanks again!

itnega

A somewhat unconventional venue for pheromones
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Hi there,
Welcome to the forum.

I think Instant Shine is good to boost your confidence since you are of shy nature.

would like to remove the mental block I have on needing to be “comfortable” to act as an alpha male. – A314 will be good

I would like to be more confident in introducing and closing with women – Instant openness and Instant Shine

I would like to be able to more easily carry a conversation with new and recently introduced people. – IO and IH

I would like to gain a better sense of when it is time to make a move. I will suggest Ammo and the social phero

Have fun

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welcome to the forum :slight_smile:

IG is a great product… it gives u a mature, suave, helpful vibe… my name is used to describe it :stuck_out_tongue: it is by far one of my favorite products. i find that it goes very well with A314 as well.

1.) for classes i find that IO, IH, Ishine, and IG work very well. (IFM too if u have it)
2.)PARTIES… my fav for mones :smiley: IO, Ishine, and sometimes IH.
3.)Amm , TUTH (bring it one vibe :stuck_out_tongue:), IH(they feel comfortable telling u things that they werent before) , Ishine (reduces personally space)
4.)same as #3
5.) IG, IFM if its a girl (low dose), IShine, IH

cya around

bond

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Welcome Itnega!

Thx for the flattering compliment :smiley:

Instant openness is definitly great for this kind of class situations. It makes everyone open and wannt to chat with you. Instant honesty can be also helful in building deeper connections with your friends.

Again, instant openness help them relax (strangers) and make them want to talk to you, even if they dont know you. But you need to strike the conversation, often a simple hi will work :slight_smile: Instant shine is great for party too. Very fun and energitic mix!

Ammo and turn up the heat in small dose (1 or 2 sprays for this)

Not sure about this one, perhaps with some a314 for respect and authority!

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Thanks for all the replies so far guys :slight_smile:

I had a few other follow-up questions.

Would you recommend using A314 at the 10-30 person party if used in conjunction with Instant Shine/Openness/Honesty or will it still be too off-putting? What about A314 in a school setting or among just friends?

Does A314 make people uncomfortable to talk to you even after you’ve introduced yourself to them? Does it create confusing signals if you are walking around by yourself without a group of people around you?

How severe is the effect of Turn Up The Heat with one or two sprays? If I have one or two sprays on in a social or party setting, will it cause undesirable reactions?

One final thing. I wore 3 drops of A314, 3 sprays of Instant Shine, and 2 Sprays of Instant Openness to a class today, and the two guys I sit next to and talk to on occasion almost seemed to do a double take when I sat down. They also were seemingly really eager to lend me a pencil when I asked to borrow one.

How obvious, in terms of scent and in terms of something being “different” about you, do I seem when people who know me without pheromones suddenly are around me when I have a pretty solid pheromone mix on?

Thanks again for the replies so far guys. If this is too much for an “intro” thread just let me know and I’ll make a post in the Men’s forum!

itnega

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

You have made a great first order there. I do suggest picking up some AMMO but you can wait on the IG for now as you will already have A314 to work with.

AMMO is a good all round product, its sexy attracts attention and is good for everyday use.

TUTH which is what you bought is not good for everyday use, its recommended that you only use it at clubs bars parties or for one on one encounters like a date or sex.

In college classes, where I want to initiate conversation with people sitting nearby and build a rapport with them over time.

In class I suggest you use a few sprays of IH and maybe one of IO. Here is why, class is not a place your really supposed to be chatting it up and IO is super chatty. IH on the other hand is still chatty but more deep so since you will have to limit your talking in classes that convo’s you do have will be more productive with IH.

At small (10-30 people) parties where I know the hosts and a few people but not most of the guests.

Ishine IO and prehaps a drop or two of A314. Only thing that has me worried there is your mention of being a alpha already and being shy. A314 dosnt make you more approuchable but the IO and Ishine should help there. I would have choosen AMMO over A314 in this situation for you.

With girls that I am friends with but have not ever been sexual with.

That depends on whether you want to be more then friends or not. If not then just use Ishine and IO. AMMO would be good here to. If you do want to become more then friends then TUTH IH and Ishine

With girls that I am friends with and with whom I occasionally am sexual with (increasing the frequency without straining the friendship is the goal here obviously :smiley: )

TUTH IH and Ishine

With confronting someone (male and female) about a recent conflict or argument we each had.

A314 and IH

Would you recommend using A314 at the 10-30 person party if used in conjunction with Instant Shine/Openness/Honesty or will it still be too off-putting? What about A314 in a school setting or among just friends?

You could use it in these settings but you will have to initiate conversation more or gives cues that your approuchable. You mention your already alpha in nature but shy and quiet with strangers. I suggest you try it and make more eye contact and smile more so people are not taken back by the aura. Ishine and IO will help greatly here to.

Does A314 make people uncomfortable to talk to you even after you’ve introduced yourself to them? Does it create confusing signals if you are walking around by yourself without a group of people around you?

No Alpha males walk alone sometimes, I dont think it makes them uncomfortable to talk to you as much as it makes them more respectful of you presence, if that makes sense, Once you make contact they are generally very accomadating respectful and helpful. Some people to the point of butt kissing. Ther will be those who are taken back by the aura and would be with a natural Alpha as well, those are the people you will need to give cues to the most.

How severe is the effect of Turn Up The Heat with one or two sprays? If I have one or two sprays on in a social or party setting, will it cause undesirable reactions?

Your going to have to work with this one a little to find out your dosage. Your young so it shouldnt be a whole lot. Girls are not going to start ripping off your cloths or anything they just become very aroused and will show more sexual cues around you. At this time it will be your choice to act on those cues or not. Men on the other hand can get competitive if you use to much but your natural alpha aura should take care of that. If you use to much you may experience the OD effect. Just point your mouse at OD and make sure your pop up blocker is off and it will explain that

One final thing. I wore 3 drops of A314, 3 sprays of Instant Shine, and 2 Sprays of Instant Openness to a class today, and the two guys I sit next to and talk to on occasion almost seemed to do a double take when I sat down. They also were seemingly really eager to lend me a pencil when I asked to borrow one.

Those are the butt kissers I was talking about LOL

How obvious, in terms of scent and in terms of something being “different” about you, do I seem when people who know me without pheromones suddenly are around me when I have a pretty solid pheromone mix on?

They just feel there is something new about you but they wont be able to place it and the effect only lasts like a week and then they realize your still you so they become accustomed to it. They wont smell the mones and say “Hey your mone sig changed” They may ask questions like “Hey is that a new shirt?”

Use a cover with the stinkier mones if you feel you need to and are worried about them picking up on the smell.

Whew LOL

:smiley: Your GC will be in your email box in the next 24 to 48 hours :smiley:

Have fun

Tisha

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WOW :open_mouth: Thanks Tisha!

That was very thorough and helpful, and I’m looking forward to using the GC on my AMMO :smiley:

One last thing (…:roll_eyes: ):

Which of the pheromones that I purchased would be considered “stinky”? I have a really bad sense of smell and I have a really hard time telling how scented particular pheromones are making me. Also, when I was wearing the A314 Shine and Honesty, I overheard two women (at two different locations, both indoors) mention the word “smell” or “smells”. One laughed to her friends(and not really in a good way) and the other was not happy with the “smell”. It could very easily been something unrelated, but, being the slightly paranoid person I am :o , I got nervous that maybe it was me…

Would that combo create an obvious cloud while indoors that would be considered overpowering or like someone is “trying too hard” to smell good?

Thanks again for all the assistance. I’m gonna try to stop being so needy now :smiley:

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could have been the A314… some dont like the smell.. i dislike it the first 5 minutes that i apply it… after that its ok… from the bottle its kinda spicy… like nutmeg or cinnamon… maybe cloves… im not sure… the fragrance is Royal Oil.

bond

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A314 is said to smell by some of the men. I have a bottle and really dont smell a thing.

Instant Openness can smell like stinky feet sometimes but no one but you will notice it.

Turn Up The Heat is said to smell like Cat piss to some men but I never met a women who dosnt love the smell LOL (of tuth not cat piss ) :slight_smile:

All people perceive the scents a little different.

If you unsure just cover with a little cologne. :wink:

Tisha