I’m just wondering exactly how our bodies go about releasing certain pheromones. I know it’s something we naturally do and our diets and lifestyle have an effect, but do you think external situations play a role at all?
I mean, i saw something the other day breifly on TV about how we release a certain pheromone when we feel fearful or stressed. I’m not sure if this has already been covered on these forums much but here’s an article The smell of fear is real, say scientists | Science | guardian.co.uk
Could this be similar for mones such as nol and rone? For example when i’m out socializing (without the use of synthetic mones), after a while i feel more approachable and will get approached by strangers far more regularly. Perhaps we produce more a-nol and b-nol in these situations? I know posture, body language, eye contact etc play a role.
But yeah, this sort of thing might have been posted a million times already so sorry if it has.
I am not a doctor or a biochemist so I can only give you the basic run down.
Pheromones are derived from hormones and signal outside of the body.
Hormones are made by our endocrine glands and various other organs. They signal inside the body. Yes our diets can effect our hormones.
Neurotransmitters are chemicals that are released from stimulated presynaptic nerve cells and travel to other postsynaptic cells. Basically, they help transfer messages throughout structures of the brain’s nerve cells. Hormone levels are associated with the changes in brain chemistry and neurotransmitters help in the production of certain hormones.
Yes it does. Research has found that external situations (our senses) are what govern much of our thoughts. Some new and some preconditioned. These thoughts make us feel a certain way by stimulating the system causing the neurotransmitters to fire off. Pheromones can cause them to fire off as well. Since neurotransmitters effect the production of hormones and pheromones are a byproduct of hormones yes if your scared, happy, relaxed etc etc you can secrete a pheromone that signals this. All this happens in milliseconds.
What exactly we produce pheromonally during these different emotions is still being studied but science is finding out more and more everyday. Even here we are helping in that discovery.
Some pheromones signal information though. These are not effected as much by emotion as they are our biology.
There is a very intricate system going round and round inside us, working for most of us, in perfect harmony.
Informative and interesting post as always Tisha. Thanks for answering.
It is amazing, i’m just fascinated with how we communicate and i think that’s what mainly got me into pheromones.
I got talking with my vocal coach about this sort of thing and she actually brought up the topic of pheromones. I can’t remember the exact details but i remember reading a while ago about how at a certain time of the month women release more of a certain pheromone to appear more attractive (during ovulation?), so i got talking to her about how other pheromones play a role in communicating.
Really weird thing is i think it may have been the same day i posted this . The universe is a funny place
Of course external situations affect our own production of pheromones. Because the production of pheromones is very directly linked to levels of different hormones, and hormones levels depend very much on what we experience. Some stressful situations make us produce adrenaline, other kinds of situations make us produce endorphins. Seeing attractive women makes us guys produce more testosterone. Also being in a competitive position with another man (even with our own selves sometimes, as sportsmen and bodybuilders know very well) makes us produce more testosterone. That all affects our natural pheromone signatures. Seems like human body’s hormonal economy is linked to emotions. Emotions in my opinion are a link between our thoughts and our body. When you experience an emotion, you first feel it physically, as a specific feeling in your stomach, or your throat, or your heart; then, shortly after, you start to actually think about it and realize what the emotion is about. Most emotions are just muscular tensions. It’s nearly impossible to experience any strong emotions when you lay down and control yourself to loosen all your muscles and not let them flex.
I believe there’s still a lot to discover. Probably much more than has been discovered so far. I always believed, for instance (although I am no scientist, I just like to think), that pretty much all organs in human body have more functions than we know. And that if something is influenced by something else, there also must be some influence going exactly the other way round. My ex-gf is a scientist, she’s doing research on osteoblasts (bone cells and tissues). A few years ago I was talking with her and her colleague about how midlle aged women’s bones get weaker when their hormones’ level change. I told them that maybe it’s not necessarily like that, maybe the condition and density of the bone tissue is the cause of hormonal alterations, not the effect. Of course the girls laughed me off. Guess what their fellows discovered recently? Well while I wasn’t completely right, I’ve had a point there. It is an effect and a cause. It works both ways. Bone cells actually produce a previously unknown hormone that controls production of other hormones (like estrogene and progesterone) in a woman’s body. But this function gets disrupted during menopause, because bone tissue becomes less dense and hence less effective in keeping the hormones’ levels steady. And the less stable those levels, the weaker the bones again. Vicious circle.
Sorry for rumbling on, I got carried away. But you get my point; like Tisha said (in this thread and many times before), we are amazing and complex creatures. My addition to this statement: I presume that everything in this intricate system (our body/emotions/mind/spirit) works both ways. Let’s look how it applies to the pheromones. Do certain emotions make us produce certains pheromones? Certainly. Do certain pheromones evoke certain emotions? I think we know an answer to that.
I think she may have been referring to copulins which while not technically pheromones (they are produced as a side effect of hormones but are not actually hormones or metabolites of).
Now based off of what I’ve learned over the past year (which is not as good as the professor level education of MHarris or JVKohl) I would say something akin to naturally high testosterone levels will result in naturally high levels of mones in general and particularly None. This is the generic message of youth, health and sexual fitness. However other mones are more moment dependent.
For example, in another topic some time ago a poster referred to an occasion where a girl told him she could smell his desperation. This makes sense more than metaphorically. Imagine a mammal senses approaching danger in the form of a large predator, it would then release a phero signal that would put others of it’s social group in a more tense and alert state.
Most likely these mones could be a side effect of adrenaline levels.
Now a human male that is extremely shy and suffering from approach anxiety finally musters up the courage to go talk to a woman he finds attractive. His attraction to her would be communicated by the elevated test levels, and his fear of rejection communicated by his elevated adrenaline levels and the mones produced as a result.
Likewise during moments of strong sexual arousal, we probably produce other mones in addition to none which is why a single spray of 2.5 mcg TuTH is potentially stronger and more volatile than a much stronger dose of pure None. Steering molecules in all likelihood are the mones that are more moment and mood dependent.
High test+high endorphins (elevated mood) could equate the signal of a natural born winner. Possibly an Instant Jerk type. As endorphins can increase after a victory of some sort and result in a confidence boost so it would logically follow that they would have a pheromonal effect as well
High test+sexual arousal could create more of a tuth signal.
While Adrenaline could create a pheromonal signal of either anger or fear and thus create a sense of unease among those exposed to the signal. Especially during an occasion where such a mood is inappropriate. IE a club where everyone is laughing, dancing, flirting and having a good time…an extreme signal of fear or anger would be a buzzkill to those around you and likely make people want to avoid you.
The apocrine sweat glands are probably the source. They’re concentrated in the right place and it’s already known that adrenaline is one of the stimuli for secretion. Exact details are a bit beyond me as biology isn’t quite my thing, but probably if adrenaline triggers some, then testosterone, estrogen, progesterone, etc. trigger others. And probably by means of actually being converted IN THE APOCRINE GLAND into the appropriate pheromone.
That’s my educated guess, which with $5 may get ya a cup of coffee.
. The universe is a funny place 