A fit of severe depression last night, as a result of a god-awful party experience prompted my mind to start thinking about the world and everything in it.
On my little “mind-journey” I pondered pheromones for a while, and how their effect got me where I was. At this stage, I had been entirely ignored all night, by both sexes and had ended up in a really bad way emotionally. Having worked fucking hard all night to start conversations and generally be social, I gave up when I realised I was getting nothing out of anyone. But this is nothing new. I have never in my life been able to “score” in a club, bar, party anything. And I keep asking myself why. I personally think I’m the ugliest person alive. Friends tell me otherwise, but in my (possibly bi-polar) state, choose to ignore their words. As for my affect on other people, it got me thinking “could this be pheromone related”.
As we all know, we produce pheromones naturally. It would appear that alpha males and the so-called “attractive people” naturally produce a lot of positive pheromones. Now, I’m not sure how valid this theory is, BUT:
Do some people, such as myself, with no outwardly negative physical or social disfigurement, produce a repellent pheromone signature?
Now, pheromones are produced by the body, so it goes without saying that the chemicals combined to produce them are written into our DNA. Damage to DNA occurs all the time. There are hundreds of thousands of genetic diseases that are more common than you’d think. Could it be possible that the genes which control our natural phero production get damaged, and as a result produce pheromone signatures that have a massively negative effect on everyone you meet?
I realise it may seem like I’m looking for a great excuse as to why I’m such a social reject and live this lonely life. But to be perfectly honest, where I’m at right now - I think its what I need.
I think you need instant shine, makes you carefree and gives off that happy vibrant persona. Couldn’t tell you about all the genetic disorder stuff quite yet. How old are you? Suckks that the a314 was lost that is the best.
You could already have a strong signiture then combined withh too much tuth, if used, or ammo may have overdone it. It could be that you ghosted so that there was too much mones leading to the total blocking out of your signiture. I’d say sleep, eat something healthy, try again another night. Maybe less. It’s easy to overdo it. And they could just be stupid. There is that too
It was a fancy dress party, and I was dressed as Rorschach for the start of the evening. Before long, people got fed up of being in fancy dress, so I was left wearing black pants, a trenchcoat and a black shirt. My attitude was what it normally is: upbeat, funny and talkative. Other people in the group were acting the exact same way as me, and well, fairing much better in the social stakes - lets put it that way.
Most of my observations are from mone-free occasions. Last night, all I had on was 2x Ammo, 2x CTTM2 and a spray and a half of IO (togo bottle on the fritz).
I do have IS on order, it should be coming today - but then, its being delivered by DHL, so its probably another lump of cash I’m pissing down the sewer =D
You know, I was pondering the exact same thing lately. The thing is, I did not really want to ask this question or bring it up in some way. People here are already helping me tremendously and I do not want to keep sounding like a bitch.
I was thinking, all pheromone research (that I know of) is about ‘positive’ pheromones. We can now buy -none, -rone, -nol, a1, est and other stuff to try and give a positive swing to our interactions with other people. The research is still in it’s infancy, so this cannot be all there is to it. For there to exist ‘positive’ mones, there must also be mones that have a negative impact on interactions. Is is not true that all matter in the universe (no matter what form) has an opposite?
Not long ago I had a girl tell me she could smell the ‘desperation’ on me. It hid me very hard. She is a friend of mine and honest towards me. What if most other women could smell this too, but do not tell me in order to not hurt my feelings? I know there is also body language, congruence and a million other of my traits to consider, but still, what if my body signals insecurity, desperation or whatever you want call it out of my pores? Do the ‘positive’ mones neutralize the repellant? So far not.
I read about anxious and stressfull men (probably most of them beta type of dudes) producing more cortisol then confident, strong and happy men. Somehow women sniff this out. There was also a study that said women were attracted to guys with high cortisol levels, so what am I to believe?
This could be a very interesting discussion. I hope other will have input also.
Not sure if you’ve seen this mentioned on the forum but A1 is proven to cause depression in some men, so I wouldn’t call it entirely a “positive” pheromone all of the way. It’s one of the reasons you won’t find it in our products anymore.
I made a post regarding this some time ago, mones are byproducts of hormones, usually testosterone but also possibly adrenalin and cortisol…both hormones related to stressful situations.
It is my theory (I am neither an endocrinologist nor a pheromone expert like MHarris) that when a person is feeling fear, stress or anxiety they release pheromones that communicate that(most likely metabolites and byproducts of Adrenalin and/or Cortisol). It makes logical sense from an evolutionary biology perspective since as social animals, a caveman seeing a saber toothed tiger and feeling the subsequent fear would naturally release a pheromone that puts the other nearby tribemates in a more alert and cautious state.
However a person that is lacking in confidence, easily stressed, quick to anger or just plain high strung will likely feel these emotions more often and at inappropriate times.
This makes people just naturally uncomfortable around you. As you would be feeling fear and releasing fear pheromones when there’s nothing to be fearful of. Desperation is in simple terms Desire+Fear. So if you’re attracted to a woman, yet feeling severe approach anxiety you could be releasing both signals at the same time which would of course communicate interest but also a lack of confidence.
However since natural pheromone production is not likely at the same level quantity wise as one can get via dosed synthetic pheromone sprays the application of a good mix of products should overwhelm any negative signal you may be sending out as a result of approach anxiety.
There are different types of pheromones mostly studied in the animal world but technically we are animals so its likely ours work similar to other mammals.
We communicate different states of mind as well as personal information about ourselves.
Re-leaser pheromones and signal pheromones cause behavior changes.
Alarm pheromones convey fear danger and can trigger the fight or flight response. Ever see the movie Bambi. There is a good example of it when the mother deer gets shot. The Father deer senses danger and uses his pheromones and body language to convey this to the rest of the herd who pick up on it and run for cover.
There are also sex pheromones, primers, calming, Territorial’s and slew others I cant remember off the top of my head.
You see the use a lot of farms with animals when your trying to breed them or introduce a new animal into the herd.
Just because we are more advanced doesn’t mean we have lost the ability to use our basic instincts. We just dont pay attention to them or rely on them as much.
So if you were feeling depressed those feeling are producing byproducts of the your hormones and in turn signaling discomfort to those around you. Its has nothing to do with your DNA.
Now lets go one step further. What you think and believe creates your reality. If you believe your a social reject then thats what your brain is signaling inside your body. Those beliefs effect your pheromone out put and signal others to be wary or cause discomfort to others.
The good news is you can change what you believe. You have to consciously practice it everyday to do it but after a while it becomes part of the sub conscious mind. Start telling yourself your not a social reject your improving every day. When you find yourself saying something negative or thinking something negative about yourself stop and look at yourself in a mirror and say the opposite. Even if you dont believe it at first or it feels like your lying. If you do it everyday you will change your mindset and change the signals your sending naturally.
In the mean time synthetic pheromones are a great tool to offset those negative signals your sending but you should make the effort to work on your positive thinking as well.
that is the best.