How pheros made me a b*tch and made my TG run away

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So I didn’t have a lot of time to prepare for my evening and I didn’t look at my post on what I was planning to use.

8 sprays of EST @10
6 sprays of p86 @10
3 sprays of p83 @10
3 sprays of MX135
Half a spray of mx134 - obtained this bc the diffuser is blocked
2 sprays of p74
1 spray of MX250 - could smell the cops in this one

I let all this sit a little because I was a walking scent bomb, then covered with a mix of Jo Malone scents.

I was due to meet with some of my friends for drinks and dinner, and I was in a rush, so my dad dropped me. On the way, Dad was a little irritable but everything was fine by the time we got to where he was leaving me.
There were some shops on the way, where I know the girls, so I dropped in to say hello. The girls were really friendly and we agreed to a coffee date late next week.

On I went. On the way, people were staring at me and I felt very bullet-proof, take no nonsense from anyone. My friends were waiting in front of the bar for me and I said hello to everyone, TG last.
He gave me a moment of DIHL then seemed to jump back from me.
Ex-BF started making a fuss about the place I had chosen for drinks so we headed directly for the restaurant. TG was staring at me every now and then but looking away every time I looked his way. He went to sit on the other side of the table and I had an entertaining evening with my nearest and dearest friends.

Fast-forward to the end of the dinner, where we decided on some after-dinner activities. One of our girlfriends invited us back to her place and we all went. I was feeling a little irritated for no reason (despite mild annoyance), so I put my ipod in and walked to the station at my usual pace, which is pretty fast.
My best friend almost ran after me to catch up with me and I blew him off. After that, I ended up having walked so fast that I waited for them at the station. TG seemed to be avoiding me a lot, walking as far as he could from me. I was not in a mood to taking any shit from him, so I pretty much ignored him (like the entire evening).

Best friend and ex-BF were fighting for my attention, demanding massages and to sit near me. TG hung back, occasionally looking my way but looking away whenver I noticed. He centered most of his attention on our friend, who was knitting up a storm.

By the end of the evening, we were talking up a storm but I was getting tired. When it was time to leave, best friend and I left with TG and ex-BF following. In the subway, best friend and I sat in one space with the other two opposite us. At our stop, we got up and TG jumped up to follow (despite it not being his stop).

Best friend and I ended up talking for hours at his before I headed home. The drowsy feeling that I was seemed to fade as the night progressed (p86 faded?).

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That’s one heck of a combo :smiley:
60mcg P86 :open_mouth: wow, now that would have to be sedating surely?

With 3 Mx’s in there…that’s alot of phero 's…maybe you ended up overloading by sending out too many vibes & confusing things?

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holy OD,batman !
:smiley:

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p86 was definitely sedating but I fought it to stay awake/aware.

And for the MXes, I don’t believe so, I often use MX134/MX135 together… I found similar effects from IS/A in MX250 (and I’m sure that I read somewhere it was IS/A with cops only) so I used that in lieu of IS/A

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TBH, I don’t think I OD’ed, Lor! I certainly didn’t feel invisible, got tons of attentions, was very fawned over by everyone… In itself, TG’s attitude is a reaction in itself. :wink:

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do you often hang out with your TG and your ex at the same time ? don’t you think having the ex there may influence your TG’s behavior towards you ?

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Yup…Mx250 is IS/a with 20x cops :smiley:

Maybe you OD’d your TG if he had continued exposure “close to the source” whereas others that responded were further away & for less time?

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It happens occasionally (let’s say 1 out of 5 times?) and it never used to change how TG behaved towards me in the past. Less often now than before. When my ex and I were together, we’d almost always hang out together, all three of us. Then it was mostly me and TG for a long time (ex and I don’t keep the same schedules at all).

I’m just testing the waters here, wasn’t expecting much to happen.

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That’s basically like
80 mcg of EST
60 mcg of p86
30 mcg of p83
unknown mcg of p74

0.5 spray of mx134
1 spray of mx250
3 sprays of mx135

I wouldn’t say that it’s an OD. I think it’s just a lot of different pheros used. Remember the first 4 pheros are single molecules (I think, don’t know about the est though!) and the dosage sounds pretty good to me. Single molecules are awesome to work with because you get what you’re looking for most of the time imo.

However, next time you could consider trying
mx134 + mx135 or
mx250 + mx135 along with the other pheros.

I think mx134 + instant sexiness A could be overwelming, because they both contain tal, but mx134 also has other ingredients. But then you used only a tad of each, which seems pretty fine to me, maybe you were just really pissed naturally :slight_smile: lol, it happens!

But hey, you did get the DIHL’s so it’s all cool :smiley: lol! Excellent report darling :smiley:

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Have you used this mix/amount of pheros before? For me, that would simply be too much and way too varied. The way I would personally interpret the DIHL you got from the TG would be more of a “WTF??!” reaction. If someone acted the way you are describing, I would think I overwhelmed him with conflicting messages to the point he had no clue how to react, so he removed himself from your immediate presence.

YMMV and you certainly know what you want and what to expect from him better than I do, but based on your report I wouldn’t personally consider this a successful mix as far as the TG is concerned.

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Got a little annoyed, p83 must have picked up on it and amplified.
It didn’t last very long but I was marching, one two one two, taking no prisonners when we were walking to the subway (I get that on a high dose of p83 so I’ll have to tone it down next time)

Angry vibe + TAL = leave me alone :wink:

I’d never tried that mix (specially the EST before) but I have tested mixes like: [MX134 + MX135 + IS/A + IH +P79] or [P86 + P83 + P74 + IS/A] in various dosages.

Just to make it clear, I wanted to see the effect in general of that mix, not particularly get a positive reaction from TG (specially not considering exBF was there). :slight_smile: Any reaction from him is a “good” reaction, in that I know what works and doesn’t work with him.
It may sound a bit cold, risking an evening with friends/TG with a weird mix but I know them well and even if the evening had degenerated into something depressive/unpleasant, it wouldn’t have mattered because it wouldn’t have been the first time that someone’s crappy mood had affected everyone (sans pheros)… if you see what I mean :slight_smile:

Sure, he’s gone all WTF that evening but others have responded positively. It’s not a good match for him (for him, I suspect EST + IH + MX106 would work a treat to get me just what I want, based on previous successes) but I’ve had some DIHL and tons of positive compliments.

Additionally, I now know that it’s also not a good mix to keep the peace within my group of friends (best friend and exBF fighting for my attention).

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Heh, ok! I figured you had a plan, so to speak. And thanks for not taking my response as a criticism, as it wasn’t meant to be. After I posted I thought it might come off a bit patronizing, but decided to leave it as-is and do any explaining/apologizing if necessary later.

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80 mcg EST is about right.

60 mcg P86 should have put everyone to sleep.

30 mcg P83 - could be adding to your irritability. I find P83 gives an impulsive pissy vibe, even at 12.5 mcg. Tater called it an irritability factor with this molecule.

MX135 - star vibe but can be seen as unapproachable.

P74 - this and the EST could have been what held it all together.

MX250 - both sexually irresistible and intimidating.

Yeah, I can see where you got what you got. :stuck_out_tongue:

Diane

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ariadne dont worry, i took it in the spirit i’d figured you’d said :wink:

Diane: you said it better than me. Re p86 everyone a little tired after dinner but we are all used to this so didn’t take a lot of notice

Sorry for lack of format and curtness, on my blackberry

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Hi Tak, sorry I’m a little late to the party…

I agree no OD here. it was just a little outta balance for you/your TG. Like you said, you weren’t expecting a good reaction just a reaction. I’d say it worked OK. It’s just that poor TG didn’t know where to grab himself first. The combo of pheromones was very attractive and he was attracted but put off at the same time by the TAL and your Tude. :roll_eyes: :smiley: Though you “scared him away”, he was always in close proximity…keeping his eyes on you…chasing you as you rapidly walked ahead of him… even going so far as to follow you and get off when it wasn’t his stop. You did fine with your other friends as far as their reactions. No surprise that BFF and ex-BF were scrambling for your attention, seems like that’s pretty much par for the course anyways. :wink:

Poor TG …first you scare him away, then get mad at him for staying away. I love you, you kill me. :stuck_out_tongue: My bet is you could use the same combo in different ratios with TAH instead of TAL and get a good reaction from TG, if you were so inclined. He strikes me as a TAH kinda guy. (You, GirlyQ, are scary enough without TAL… :stuck_out_tongue:…though I must confess that there are times when I enjoy kickin’ butt and takin’ names, maself. :smiley:)

I’ll give you my take on the pheromones…I don’t get the sedated/crash that some get from P86, 60mcg is a lot. If you find it’s tiring lower the dose, as you said. I get terrific results from only 20-25mcg and no tired feeling/crash. P83 is the one, at high doses, that puts me in a zone I don’t care for. Too sedating and I feel as though a veil has been pulled over me. I don’t like it. (Di’s right, irritability has been reported at higher doses.) I lowered it to no more than 15mcg and it was much better for me. How much P74 did ya use? I found that when I first started testing that one it really whacked me and I crashed hard from it. After more testing at a lower dose it was much better, too. As far as you and TAL go, if it’s not work related I’d drop the MX134. Go with 1 spray of MX250 to the back of your head and MX135 up front (to tame your little beastieness).

As always, everyone’s mileage will vary. That’s why we call it experimentation there are no bad/wrong tests.

Maybe try this recipe next time…

EST/100mcg - Di’s :slight_smile: right, again, 80mcg is good but I seem to get the best effects from 100mcg and ^.
P86/20-30mcg
P83 /10-20mcg
P74/15 -20mcg
Mx250 - 1 spray to the back of your head
Mx135 - 3 sprays at least two of those up front (Even though MX250 has 20X cops it’s only 1 spray. So, if you’re looking for more cops in the mix, swap out a spray of MX135 for IS/B. I actually add extra cops to some of my IS/B. I take half a bottle/15ml and drop in 50 drops of old EoW into it. Thank God I still have some of the old stuff! Yeah, it stinks but I cover it and it works well. Of course I have no idea how many “X’s” cops that would be…)

Any of the P’s can push your mix. Maybe try dropping the P83 altogether especially if you’re wearing TAL…dunno, just a suggestion. Hmm…maybe a little TAF instead of the P83? Hmm…I’ma like the sound of that. As far as too many pheromones. Though I do agree there’s a lot to be said for less is more, especially when you’re just beginning. However, with that said, I’ve been known to combine quite a few myself, a lot of us do. Properly selected, in the right doses, a symphonic mix of pheromones can be very effective. Mx135, all by its fabulous little self, is a good example…it’s a symphonic mix of 56 different pheromones.

Well, that’s my nickle. :wink: Nice report, Tak.

Bella

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hey bella, thanks for that. Still no internet, only crackberry, so short reply:
Had debrief of evening with bff (male) and he said: tg looked terrified of you and you looked out for blood.

Will try suggested combo. Also want to replaced p83 with betanol (ih or straight depending on funds). Intend to nix mx134 and tal as feel current sig could intmidate a bear.

If only i could get some of the dhc line, i am sure to crack tg :wink:

Thank you everyone for feedback and advice.