Long story short: Pheromones have lost their magic for me. After years of usage, and I feel I have learned nothing about how to use them and what mixes work for me on a consistent basis. I have used: TUTH, AMMO, IO, IH, IS, IFM, IG, A314, and A1. I currently have a small amount of AMMO and Alpha. I have lots of TUTH, IH, and some togo IS, IO and IG. IG is new to me. My environment: I am a 22 year old Uni student who typically associates with 19-25 year old female and male friends. I frequent pub/clubs/bars on the weekends. With 5-20 person “pre- drinks” prior to heading to the bar. I am always well dressed, and would consider my self at least a 7/10 on a fairly critical scale as far as looks go. I certainly can come across as intimidating, I am known for blunt humour, and my “I don’t give a damn” attitude. People hate and love me for it. Mostly hate. I am very nice, outgoing and not as “mean” as I seem once a someone I have never met spends 10 minutes with me (or so I have been told.) My habits: Recently I have been mixing my Instant products together in a togo bottle so that I can reapply when I am out. The only reason I feel the need to do this is that I am worried the pheros will have dissipated by the time I get to the bar. My group typically gets started at 7ish, and get to the bar 11ish. I understand the phero’s last 4-6 depending on conditions and none content. I have been mixing TUTH and AMMO together. I have likely been applying too much by the end of the night. I always apply to the chest and neck. I used to see effects from some of these products, good or bad. Now I notice nothing. All i notice is my male friends getting more positive attention then myself. Coincidence? Feeding off of my phero cloud? Maybe. Either way, I am not receiving any benefits. Anyways, I was hoping I could get some advice to sort of reset my pheromone usage habits. I would like to refresh my mindset. Yesterday I mixed IO, IH, IS and a bit of TUTH together in one togo bottle. I thought this would be a wicked mix. Apparently not. I am beginning to think I should not be mixing all of these into one bottle. Help!!
it would be more cost effective, at least in the beginning, to mix on your skin then directly into bottles. when you figure out exactly how much you need or want then u can put it in a togo to leave the house with 
have you tried using the products individually? personally i feel that socials are good to start with as their effects are easier to spot and they are more forgiving when it comes to over dosing. if you haven’t, why don’t you try some IO or IH, maybe 3 or 4 puffs might be a good start to see blatant results (maybe u need more, you will have to find out yourself). see if there are any differences when you are out with your friends 
Attitude is everything and as you and the women your age mature, you will find out sooner or later the “I don’t give a damn attitude” will have the same, but opposite effect, as mones on most women.
Remember, at the core of women’s subconscious programming when selecting a mate is to look for dependability and security. The “I don’t give a damn” attitude projects just the opposite. Ok around the buds, but you may want to start watching it around the women.
Your intimidating so why are you mixing TUTH and Ammo together ? Are you going for more intimidating ?
For your situation you want to focus more on the socials. Socials can get you laid far faster then masculine mones. That may not be your intention but most men skip out on the socials because they think they are just social.
How many sprays do you normally use of each product. Even estimates will help me determine whats going on.
Tisha
BINGO on both accounts. I know all of this to be true. Why I don’t change my behavior both personally and pheromone wise, it is tough to change!
I typically start with 1-2 sprays TUTH at the very beginning of the night before I join my pals. Or 1 spray TUTH and 1 spray AMMO. Chest and Neck. I know, I do not need this much. Though now I will put my knowledge into action and not use this much. I also spray 1-3 sprays of TUTH or AMMO into my togo, which I will then use at the bar at around 10pm-12am, usually multiple times 1-2 sprays each…yea I know, overkill. If I am not getting any action,what typically happens is that I will think it’s because my phero’s are A) not working or B) have worn off. Sometimes the real reason is probably because I am looking like a stuck up prick who appears to be not interested in talking to the girl who attempted to initiate… but I digress.
I will also use the togo, when I feel there is lots of competition, and I think I need to compensate. Or when I am actually getting somewhere with a girl, I put some on to kick it up a notch…when in actuality I am probably making it worse/ or it was simply not necessary to apply more pheros.
As you can see I am answering a lot of my own questions, this thread is a way of organizing my thoughts. Sort of in a therapeutic way…
I do use socials, yesterday I used tons in my togo. The togo had 3-4 sprays each of IO,IH and IS in it, with 1 spray of TUTH (NOTE: that’s how I put the product in the to go, by spraying it in the bottle.) I applied 2 sprays of TUTH at the beginning of yesterday night, and a spray of ammo to the neck…i know too much. Then I used the togo a couple of times later that night probably 1-2 sprays a couple of times.
One reason why I may over use TUTH and AMMO is because of the fact that we go out so damn early sometimes. My thought process is that, sure I have too much on now, but by the time we actually meet up with everyone (the ladies) and go the bar the TUTH and AMMO will have dissipated and will probably be at a good level/not as strong…but then I go and add more with a togo. In any case this is an issue of me wanting maximum effects from the pheros, as if they were just applied the whole night. I can already guess what you guys are going to say. You are probably going to mention how sticky the molecules in TUTH and AMMO are and that none lasts a long time. So I probably come across as an angry animal looking for a mate by the end of the night.
More thoughts and critiques appreciated. Thank you.
well a couple of things to consider. None tends to be sticky, so I would imagine that with (for example) a single spray of Ammo, most of the rone and nol with have diffused off by about the four hour mark, but there might be a good amount of none left over. Here’s the thing about None, this is my personal opinion based on my experience plus feedback from younger members. None is sexual and great for older guys as we produce less of it…so it kinda turns back our clock perception wise and makes us seem a bit younger, healthier and more virile. A young guy probably doesn’t need that. Yeah, a little extra can “turn up the heat” under the right conditions but to be honest with the right game, a guy can escalate to sex with pure socials. In fact for a younger guy I think it would be easier to close with a purely social mix than with a risky none heavy mix. IE with a pure social mix (maybe with a little respect) you can be a bit more forward sexually…A BIT, and the woman would likely be more relaxed and comfortable when you get there. With a heavy sexual mix, yeah that could work, but you could also come off as creepy even when you’re not being more aggressive sexually. Either can work and work well but with something like TuTH I believe you have to be more careful of your actions and demeanor. This is especially true if you have a “love/hate” personality, blunt humor, intimidating, don’t give a damn attitude etc…these things can come across as anger or aggression with a heavy none sig. While the same sort of blunt humor with heavy doses of IO and Shine can come across as witty, and refreshingly direct. I would actually suggest for clubbing and bar hopping to stick with IO and Shine, IH can be too serious and if your humor is the kind I imagine from your description…IH might make some comments be taken a bit too close to heart so I’d avoid that.
Well your answering your own question here LOL. You know what you are doing wrong. Now just stop it LOL
Dont use TUTH unless your on a date or with a girl who has already established a comfort zone with you. Its been said a million times even by Michael the man who made the product.
One spray of AMMO will last you 6 hours. Keep in mind unless you are going to a new location with new and different people after being in one location for hours even when the ammo is gone people are not going to suddenly dismiss how you were making them feel earlier.
Use just one and buffer it with Ishine and IO. 2 to 3 sprays of each of those. You need a 1 to 3 ratio. Why ??? Because your intimidating already.
Now I dont care if you have a “I don’t give a damn” attitude" if thats who you are, just make sure while your having it your body language is relaxed and open and you smile. Not a big goofy smile just a pleasant “I am not a axe murderer smile”
If you were shy and withdrawn or meek and timid my suggestion would be something else entirely.
Remember that girls may become aroused by the masculines but we do not act on arousal without the comfort and connection feeling FIRST.
Tisha
Thank you Tisha and Radman, I fully understand and agree with your sentiments. I will put it into action tonight, and report back tomorrow. Thanks all.
On Saturday I used 2 sprays of AMMO, one spray IG early in the evening.
And I used togos of IO and IS all night.Tons of fun!
We were at a very crowded pub/club, and I can not remember the last time I had that much fun at a bar. One thing I did notice was that people sought me out more often then usual. It was nice to be able to walk no more than 5 feet before striking up a new conversation with someone at the bar.
I really did not engage any women on a sexual level, though all were certainly friendly and gave me 100% attention when around them.
I do this really lame palm reading thing. While very lame, girls just eat it up. They love it, and all the BS that spews out of my mouth, especially Saturday where I “read” at least 4 girls palms. They were all smiles before during and after. I have done this many times before, but it just seemed effortless that night.
I would make a comment regarding my amazing palm reading ability, then within 30 seconds I was able to effortlessly lead the girl away from the group to be with me 1 on 1.
These girls were friends of friends had just met all but one for the first time. At least 2/4 were single. In all these instances I was genuinely not planning on or investing my emotions into trying to get laid by these girls (wtf? Did i just say that. That’s a new one for me.) I was just enjoying doing it and I really had no ulterior motive other than fun. That is not to say I wasn’t disappointed I did not pick anyone up that night, it just didn’t cross my mind until the next morning.
That is all for now.
PS: Does anyone know why do my post’s keep amalgamating into chunks of text? I seem to have to copy and paste line breaks to get spaces and paragraphs in. I have to copy and paste
it is super annoying and I hate to think how crappy it is to read. The formatting in the message posting box seems to not be working at all.