I seem to be getting no reactions

I’m still new at this game, and I’m not expecting women to throw themselves at me like a Lynx advert. :smiley:

But… in the past couple of days I’ve had no reactions at all from the ladies. Not a sausage. I’m 45 and working around a mix of ages from 20 to 50.

So far, with no noticeable results, I’ve tried:

1 drop of A314
3 sprays Chome (cologne)

Next day:
2 sprays of P75 (5mcg each)

Next:
2 drops A314
3 sprays P96 (5mcg each)

Next:
4 sprays P131 (5mcg each)
3 sprays Chrome (cologne)

Not a peep from the ladies. :frowning:

Any suggestions, or can you see where I’m going wrong?

I’m not sure if I’m using too much, or what. :confused:

I can’t comment on chrome but a good testing regimen can be established by testing 1 spray, noting results, then 2 sprays, etc.
This is to find your ‘sweet spot’. Pay close attention to subtle differences in behavior, the way people look and speak to you, the frequency and amount of women that notice you, etc.

Yes - I would suggest you adopt an extended testing strategy for the A314 oil on its own, to establish your best dose before adding-in other products.

A fairly typical pattern is to run one dose for 3-5 days, stop for a day or two, then move to the next dose, break again then repeat. Then once you have an effective dose, back-off a little and return if needed.

For sprays, you can use shorter timescales and running a different dose on consecutive days is viable.

Once you have your dose (or dose range) for each product, then start trying them in different combinations to see how it goes.

Also remember that the effects of A314 oil can be quite subtle - it took a full month of wondering what I was doing with the stuff before I noticed things beginning to change and a bit longer to get good effective results in attraction mixes.

P75 at 5mcg should be usable at your age but its a funny one - with a very tight dose range. outside of which you can get ghosted strongly. So I would tend to use it with something social/pleasant. Only a small number of people seem able to use high doses effectively.

Thanks for the advice guys.

But what about daily deodorant? I can’t just wear unscented A314. I’ll be all stinky! :slight_smile:

Should I do one week with A314 and, say, Chrome. Then another week with A314 and some other thing? Would a cologne/deodorant mess with the results?

Is there a rough way of judging how long a spray will last before needing refreshed? I always think that I’m probably to used to it to be able to judge.

Today I tried 1 drop of A314 and 1 spray of TUTH. Didn’t notice anything.

Still, I’m not disheartened. I’ll be trying different things and making notes.

Thanks again for the advice. :slight_smile:

You should be fine with Chrome. I sometimes use it as a solvent/cover scent mixed into my own home mixes or for diluting non AD products like NPA and have had great results over the years- just don’t spray it over your oil app points. That mucks-up diffusion.

The stealth “scent” isn’t totally unscented and does help manage diffusion and moderate breakdown stink to some extent, although yes it may well benefit from a cover after while. Chrome contains Hedione, which has phero-like effects (in fact it may already be a putative) that do complement A314 but may affect your dosing slightly - I’d place it in the light/social range.

Other deodorants, esp the cheap skoosh type can royally fuck-up your pheros - Many contain triclosan or other antibcterials that will do-for pheros in no time at all. Similarly you need to be careful with body washes/hair products for the same reason.

IMO, a complete rework of your personal regime to use the minimum amount of good quality products can work very well at supporting your phero use but things will hopefully get easier soon as the upcoming US-market ban on Triclosan and similar chemicals in cosmetic products will surely have a knock-on effect worldwide.

IME A314 oil lasts around 8-10 hours on the skin but it can be pushed into the 10-12 hour range by applying over a very light application of good quality hand lotion, albeit at a slight reduction in diffusion range.

Sprays generally last around six hours in normal conditions but are more sensitive to temp/humidity so in more extreme environments, they can fade faster.

LAstly, don’t be too worried about how you smell - Some women do get incredibly turned-on by a bit of a smell of “healthy sweat” - which may or may not be enhanced by pheros.

This definitely made alarm bells ring as maybe the hair gel I’m using is playing havoc with the pheros. It doesn’t list triclosan in its ingredients, but I’m sure it’s in there it’ll be using an alter-ego.

This was an interesting read: 7 Harmful Ingredients in Your Deodorant - Organics.org - especially the first one:

My hair gel has all of them in it! :open_mouth:

Like you said. It might be time for a clear out of hygiene products.