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Hello, a quick introduction, I’m a 22 year old male, a physical therapy student (last year), my hobbies are strongman training, reading (philosophy, history, psychology), going out, and writing poetry. After this study I will follow up with exact sciences (mathematics, physics, astronomy) Because of my sport I’m really well build, 105 kg’s (230 pound), with 10 % bodyfat and only 5”7 tall.

A few questions before I order big time again:

  • Is it possible for me to choose mones form the experimone series and start a journal (health care worker, office worker and my nightlife)?
  • Ammo seams to be working very well, giving me much attention. What are the mones inside it, beside –none?
  • Is P79 worth the price when I use it at 30 – 50mcg to increase the effect of the other pheromones? ( I use mainly –Rone products, I’m used to open people all my life, no need for nols, even with 15 – 20 mcg –rone people open up very good if you ask the right questions)
  • When I wear pure A314 (without my normal cover scent) people are sniffing all around me in close areas like the bus. My social perception is very high, but I don’t have the intuition of a woman. Do a lot of people get sniffing effects?
  • Do people here combine A314 and non-addect scent –none products with musk / arid based scentes? Like Muscs Koublai Khan, Yatagan / Vintage Yatagan?
  • What are your experiences with combining the products with CLEAN alpha male scents, like boucheron PH, chanel platinum egoiste, Blenheim bouquet, etc?
  • Last but not least, any basenotes members here? J

My fragrance wardrobe:

http://www.basenotes.net/wardrobe/12324 (http://www.basenotes.net/wardrobe/12324)

Thank you all very much, this is a great forum, I really enjoy reading around here and like the reactions and the threads!

Zen

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Hi Zen, nice to have you on board :slight_smile:

You’ve given a pretty good intro there, so I feel kinda tongue tied :smiley: What do you expect from your pheromones?

The basenote site seems very interesting, so I’ll definitely check it out. I do hope you post more about your experience mixing pheromones and perfumes because I’m interested in all this!

Again welcome and hope to see you around the board. :wink:

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@ Takhisis

Thank you for your words! I’ve already tested my pheromones and really know they are working. It’s been pretty basic, mostly A314. I like ammo but don’t ever use it because of the cologne attached. I have my own colognes.

The mix i test at this moment is 3 drops of A314 and cover it with my cologne somewhat later. My findings are these:

  • If i only use A314 without cover, people notice the smell coming from me. People also start sniffing.
  • If i cover my A314 with cologne, people also start sniffing in small area’s, but the effect will be more subconscious because when they approach me, they will smell the cologne. Most of my colognes are really strong, 80’s macho types colognes. The other category are classics. I don’t really wear anything modern (You could call Black Aoud, M7, and Rive Gauche modern, but also 80’s style)

For now, i’m primarily testing the pheromones on health care situations. I don’t think this is covered widely yet on the forum. I have a period of 20 days that starts next monday. Each day i will wear A314 3 to 4 drops, and cover it with Boucheron Pour Homme. This is a really classic smelling citrus. The advantage of this for health care is that it covers my A314, making the effect / influence purely subconsious, plus being non intrusive while still having style. Citrus / wood combination is never offensive. People might find it mature, or “old” (somewhat aristocratic), but never really bad! It’s not polarized.

@ msselva

I’m really interested in the P79 for the effect on other phero’s. For instance on A314.

@ mockingbird

I own A314. The effect is worse without cologne. The cologne is to cover the musk scent.

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Boucheron pour Hommes sounds pretty classic, indeed. I’ve never come across it on anyone but it’s definitely on my “to sniff” list now. The citrus must make it smell really clean.

You’re pretty young but a classic scent is never unwelcome. My male best friend wears Eau Sauvage, which is something my dad also wears and it does give him a more mature aura, so to speak.

I agree with msselva, you sound pretty well rounded out. Philosophy was always a difficult subject for me in high school. Guess my mind’s not that good :smiley:

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Very nice! I just sold my Eau Sauvage bottle! It smelled tremendously good. Only lasted 2 hours on my skin, which is too bad. The beautiful citrus, the wonderfull Jasmine in this fragrance, Rosemary and Basil in the opening. A real classic.

When you imagine Boucheron, it’s more formal, less dirty than eau sauvage (which is bad, i like dirty :smiley:), but a lot longer lasting on my skin. It smells mature. All my classics smell mature. You can decide to be mature @ 22 years old or at 50 years old. I live now :slight_smile:

Philosophy is only leisure / home study. I don’t study it at school. However, i have a whole bookcase filled :smiley:

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Haha i’m sitting here lauging. Every reply you gave, but the first two, is a misinterpetation.

I know P79 intensifies. I open people. I usually wear -Androsterone. Works very well, no trouble to stay in the conversation or escalate.

There’s a linguistic confusion. For the action that you call “cover”, i used the word “combine”. So, combining in my vision means using them together.

So, last night out:

Had a married women really into me, she was leaning big time, calling me mysterious, unpredictable, etc. This is because i always walk past her store on day, and greet but never talk. This happened for a year. Now i saw her in the bar and approached her when i was leaving. I wore 3 drops of A314. Haha on some part of the interaction i asked: “are you hitting on me?”. Then she made up like 4 - 5 reasons why she would never do that. Ejected the set. Her husband was dancing beside us. She also has children. But very strange, women usually don’t react like this when i tease them with that line, we were like 20 mins in the conversation.

I think it was because i defended with bodylanguage. When she became defensive, i kinoed her with a hug, so she got the impression i called her loop. She owned the frame by doing that.

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Can someone move this thread to the journal section?

Yesterday i flirted all day on MSN with the security girl of the company. She closed my MSN adress when i entered. Wore only A314, 3 drops. She’s now pursuing me, lauging at everything i say.

In the night i drank some port at home and read. Talked to another girl at MSN. She’s nice but older, like 27. Lives too long away from me. Shes pretty hot, a real goodgirl but she has a boyfriend.

Today i’m working in office again. Most women notice me.

I’m wearing black oxford shoes, black trussardi jeans, a pink borelli shirt with the top 2 buttons unbuttoned. Pec muscles are really visible that way.

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Hello, a quick introduction, I’m a 22 year old male, a physical therapy student (last year), my hobbies are strongman training, reading (philosophy, history, psychology), going out, and writing poetry. After this study I will follow up with exact sciences (mathematics, physics, astronomy) Because of my sport I’m really well build, 105 kg’s (230 pound), with 10 % bodyfat and only 5”7 tall.

My fragrance wardrobe:
InconcievableZen’s Fragrance Wardrobe

So, last night out:
Had a married women really into me, she was leaning big time, calling me mysterious, unpredictable, etc. This is because i always walk past her store on day, and greet but never talk. This happened for a year. Now i saw her in the bar and approached her when i was leaving. I wore 3 drops of A314. Haha on some part of the interaction i asked: “are you hitting on me?”. Then she made up like 4 - 5 reasons why she would never do that. Ejected the set. Her husband was dancing beside us. She also has children. But very strange, women usually don’t react like this when i tease them with that line, we were like 20 mins in the conversation.
I think it was because i defended with bodylanguage. When she became defensive, i kinoed her with a hug, so she got the impression i called her loop. She owned the frame by doing that

Yesterday i flirted all day on MSN with the security girl of the company. She closed my MSN adress when i entered. Wore only A314, 3 drops. She’s now pursuing me, lauging at everything i say.
In the night i drank some port at home and read. Talked to another girl at MSN. She’s nice but older, like 27. Lives too long away from me. Shes pretty hot, a real goodgirl but she has a boyfriend.

Today i’m working in office again. Most women notice me.
I’m wearing black oxford shoes, black trussardi jeans, a pink borelli shirt with the top 2 buttons unbuttoned. Pec muscles are really visible that way. 3 drops of A314 covered by 2 sprays of Kouros.

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Have been wearing A314 all week. Exceptional things happen.

  • Friends buying you everything
  • People excusing really fast
  • Supervisor at the phyiscal therapy clinique defending me, calling the previous supervisor dumb for not letting me pass it. That was the first day i worked there.
  • This is a negative effect sometimes: Getting TOO MUCH responsibility
  • Women are more open.
  • Almost everyone was already looking at me when i walk through a mall. Now it is even worse.

3 drops of A314 every day with 2 - 3 sprays of Boucheron Pour Homme.

Today to my callcenter job i wore 0,3 ml of vintage tabarome (1875 scent, churchills favourite) with 4 drops of A314. A314 saves money, for all the free food and drinks you get.

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Update after a month of testing A314 every day morning / afternoon and will report beyond what is already said:

  • I finished my internship. I got much more responsibility than what is usual for this years internship. Usually you can only look at what the master physician is doing, but I quickly got my own patient list.
  • Most patients rated me well, and the ones that didn’t were known for complaining about internship therapists.
  • I got 4 pages of page when I was rated. There was just one negative thing written on it, when I asked why he wrote it he defended that it wasn’t my fault but also his. It was about me needing some time to adapt to the new work environment.
  • A314 is much cheaper than you think. When you’re an outgoing person it might save on average 5 – 10 euros per day. Free drinks, free food.
  • I used 3 to 5 drops a day. I MIGHT update the dosage to 7 drops a day, 4 in the morning, 3 mid afternoon. You can’t overdose this fast if you’re REALLY muscular and dressed to kill.

I also used a togo bottle of ammo. I don’t really like ammo. Maybe because I oversprayed sometimes, using like 5 sprays. Only used it when going out.

Last week I ordered 15ml of A314, instant shine * 4 and 10mgc none spray.

Have to test it further and then I will report. Already had some big hits with the instant shine and none (older women report really good on this).

Next month i will update on the mayor findings of instant shine * 4 and androstenone.

The none will be used on work (yes callcenter job, i don’t care about it and don’t take the work seriously), but i won’t use the none when i’m working as a physical therapist because i don’t think it is professional. I also use 10mcg of none when going out.

Instant shine will be tested in some random situations.

I’m also thinking about ordering instant honesty *4 for the next physical therapy internship

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Hello everybody, welcome to the new year. I’ll start updating this regularly now, plus updating some side issues as strength training and sleep. I just quit drinking altogheter (which was mostly social but i don’t see any reason for it anymore), and started strength training very disciplined again. Used to be on / off, now i’m going for it.

In the coming months i have an internship at a hospital, i can test A314 and Instant Honesty there. It should be covered well. I hope i can update every day.

The plan is to train every evening and to get up really early each day to get 4 - 6 hours of sleep total (of which max 1 h can be in the afternoon). Body composition will be really improved as i have to get back to 8 - 10 % bodyfat and appraoch 110kg bodyweight. I think side issues as this are important because they will change the way people percieve you, just as phero’s do.

Zen.

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Hey Zen, that’s awesome that you’re ready to dedicate yourself. As far as strength training goes, if you want optimal results and growth, you’ll need to get more sleep than 4-6 hours a night. That goes not just for muscle growth, but maintaining your top mental functions as well. I’m sure you’ve been sleep deprived before, but getting even just 6 hours a night is very rough on your body, especially if you’re going to be pushing it.

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I humbly disagree. Metabolic activity is much higher during awake periods. Now, you do need sleep for neural recovery, that’s why i assure long enough NREM 3 and NREM 4 phase sleep during my night. The absense of neural / metabolic stimulants like caffeinne / ephedrine etc increase my qualitity of sleep also.

Besides, i usually sleep biphasic getting extra REM sleep (70 - 90 % of the time) in the afternoon. Having multiple sleep phases every 24 hours ensures that not too much NREM 2 phase is used during sleep. I try to optimise the hours of sleep that i have by increasing the quality.

Thanks for your reply :slight_smile:

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Strength training this evening:

Sequence:
A 1 Rolling thunder Deadlift 2 reps with 70 kg
A2 Military press 1 / 2 reps with 90kg
A3 One hand dumbell row 68 kg for 4 reps
A4 Wrist extension 45 kg for 5 reps
A5 Goodmorning from pins (below parralel) 100 kg for 10 reps
A6 Wide grip overhand Pullups 2 reps
A7 Cuban Rotation 45 kg for 5 reps
A8 Neck extension 10 reps
A9 Neck flexion 8 reps

All A’s are done with no rest in between, and 5 mins of rest before starting the sequense of 1 to 9 again. The seuquence is repeated 4 times

Got up at 2PM today… waaay late.

Food intake:
3PM: 4 toasts with cheese
6PM: 4 toasts with cheese, 60 gram of casein protein
8PM: 5 whole eggs, baked
10PM: 250 grams of sardines, 60 grams of casein protein

This is really bad, waaay too little calories today, with too many carbs. Tomorrow i’m working again and using phero’s

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Thanks for your reply too. :slight_smile:

It sounds like you know a good deal about sleeping and the various related bodies of knowledge. Would you care to share your sources with me so I could read about it? If I could operate with less sleep, there’s absolutely no reason I wouldn’t. I’m sure I’m not the only one, but I used to get 6 hours of sleep at best every night in high school. I’d be totally zoned out in class. I suspect I would have been more productive and better connected to the people around me. I think better after smoking multiple blunts than I do with 6 hours of sleep.

As far as metabolic activity, of course it is more active when you are awake, but as far as building muscle goes, I was under the impression than a certain amount of sleep (perhaps more accurately, a certain period of time within a specific phase in our sleep cycle) is required for optimum muscle growth.

I suppose if your goal is to burn as much energy/fat as possible, sure, not sleeping will further that goal. The same goes for not eating. If you cease eating, you will shed weight pretty quickly, despite your metabolism slowing down – you’re starving.

Anyway, so how exactly do you optimize your sleep time? How can you skip past the NREM1-2 phases directly into the NREM3-4 phases? I hope your answer doesn’t involve meditation. I’m not against it, but it’d just be ironic for me.

Oh yea, I forgot, come check out the Workout Enthusiasts group.

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Saturday training, 1AM in the night: (same as Friday)

Sequence:
A 1 Rolling thunder Deadlift 2 reps with 70 kg
A2 Military press 1 / 2 reps with 90kg
A3 One hand dumbell row 68 kg for 4 reps
A4 Wrist extension 45 kg for 5 reps
A5 Goodmorning from pins (below parralel) 100 kg for 10 reps
A6 Wide grip overhand Pullups 2 reps
A7 Cuban Rotation 45 kg for 5 reps
A8 Neck extension 10 reps
A9 Neck flexion 8 reps

All A’s are done with no rest in between, and 5 mins of rest before starting the sequense of 1 to 9 again. The seuquence is repeated 4 times

Saturday food:

8:00. 300 grams of tuna, 20ml of cod oil
11:00 150 grams of tuna, 150 grams of mackerel
14:00 60 grams of casein protein, 3 tomatoes
17:00 60 grams of casein protein, 2 tomatoes, 20ml of olive oil
21:00 200 gram of lowcarb cheese (brie in Dutch, don’t know how you call it) with 50 grams of toast
24:00 600 grams of meat, 200 grams of vegetables.

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No training @ sunday

Sunday food:
8:00. 300 grams of sardines with a banana
11:00 70 grams of casein protein with a banana, 200 grams of drapes
14:00 70 grams of casein protein with 100 grams of nuts
17:00 150 grams of meat (could’t get more here)
20:00 300 grams of meat, 200 grams of vegetables
23:00 200 grams of sardines with 200 grams of drapes

On saturday i wore 3 drops of A314 with 20mcg of none. Buffered by santal noble. Some strange reactions on women, really easy to get attention. I’m willing to write more on the overall pattern instead of small happenings every day. None added with A314 definitely gives more attraction than only A314.

It will be till next weekend till i try more phero’s, as i’m off for the rest of the week.

Sleep:

Thursday Night: 4 hours
Friday Night: 4 hours
Saturday Night: 5 hours
Sunday Night: 8 hours (little planned oversleep)

Off to the mall in a moment to buy food, after that i’m going to train and study phisiology :slight_smile:

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Training:

Monday: Sequence * 5 (was 4 on saturday and sunday)
Tuesday: Sequence * 5 + some pushups and pistols with 15kg after the training

Food on monday:

70g of casein protein, 20ml fish oil, 20ml olive oil, 1 liter of white tea
200g sardines with a tomato, banana, 50g of nuts, 1 liter of green tea
800g red meat, 100g of patatoes, 100g of vegetables, 1 liter of green tea
70g of casein protein, 200g of vegetables, 100g nuts
300g of sardines, 2 tomatoes

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Tuesday food:

1: 100g casein protein, 20ml cod liver oil, 20ml olive oil, 1 liter white tea
2: 650g chicken filet, 2 tomatoes, 20ml olive oil, 1 liter green tea
3: 300g tuna, banana, 20ml walnut oil, 20ml olive oil, 25g nuts.
4: 70g casein protein, 500 gram potatoes / vegetables
5: 300g of mackerel, 100g vegetables

Elbow tendon feels a little bad. Went shopping this morning (wednesday) and bought some pants that actually fit. Size 40 on width, 32 on length. haha. Legs are too big for anything normal, may have to go Made to Measure in the future. Wore A314 (only 2 drops). People were pretty open and helped very fast bringing me pants to try like they were working for me.

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Ha, ha for a minute or two I thought I was on the bodybuilding.com forums. Ah, I miss posting there.