I have Instant Honesty 4x and have never really gone above 2 sprays but today I put 3 sprays and no other pheromones on because I was expecting to have a conversation with a friend about a serious issue. I felt like complete crap this morning because of a situation I’ve been stuck in with a two girls for a few months came to a close last night. Some of you may have seen my post in the lounge about the situation, well basically the girl I like friend zoned me because she doesn’t want to hurt her best friends feelings. The thread is here btw: two girls and me. Desperate need of help.
The reason I just talked about that situation is to try and explain the self effects of the Instant Honesty. I felt like shit when I sprayed the equivalent of 12 sprays of Instant Honesty on but as soon as my two friends picked me up about 20 minutes later and I was with people my mood skyrocketed. The Instant Honesty made me very talkative, witty, funny and in a good mood. At uni with other friends we totally vibed like never before the rapport was amazing and everyone seemed joyous and giddy. I’ve never had these kind of reactions from lower doses of Instant Honesty, In fact I’ve never had any mood lifting and rapport building effects like these of any other pheromones. It was amazing. lasted about 4 hours before wearing of pretty quickly.
I’m gonna try this again for sure maybe even try 4 sprays next time. I want to try it with 2 sprays of ammo around girls as well, I think if the large nol dose doesn’t over buffer the none in the ammo it would be a perfect mix - we’ll see. Anyone get these kind of effects from large doses of Instant Honesty? I had a serious chat with my friend but other than that the conversation was light and giddy.
Hey WildFlower, too bad it didn’t work out for you.
I know some people feel IH to be too ‘serious’ but like you, I’ve experienced intense rapport and good vibes. I say it’s all in what you feed it, good energy or heavy energy. But it can be hard to feed it what you want sometimes, as it has a tendency to just pull out whatever it wants now and then.
Yeah I’ve never really experienced the “serious” vibe from Instant Honesty. People are more revealing and will steer the conversation almost immediately to what they want to talk about instead of going through the casual formalities but that doesn’t mean the topic is naturally gonna be heavy. People can have light topics on there mind that they will share more readily. You know instead of the usual “hi”, “hows the week been?”,“weathers pretty bad huh?” they come straight out and go “I can’t believe my girlfriend doesn’t trim her pubes. It really itches during sex.” (that’s a real quote of the most blatant Honesty revealing hit I’ve had and he said it pretty much as soon as I saw him, no small talk.)
For me Instant Honesty brings about a level of closeness through the rapport it generates not through sharing deep dark secrets. The heavy Instant Honesty today was what I expected from spaceland, real fun, good vibes but the closeness between everyone was very intense you could almost reach out and grab the energy it was that strong.
Thank phya for the sympathy. The girl meets all my expectations I have for a girlfriend but I’m now friend zoned because she values her friendship with her best friend more than me - fair enough really. I’m ok about it now I think, I’m not going to pursue her or devote any energy in trying to escape the friend zone I’m just gonna carry on with life and keep her as a friend. Maybe in the future I’ll get back out of the friend zone but I’m not counting on it. She said “I trained myself not to think about you in that way and it worked I just see you as a friend.” Well and truly friendzoned there right?
Hmm..I guess so. I don’t know what to say really. That’s a pretty clear statement though, if you ask me. I’d also say though, that she might just be trying to fool herself..
She seemed into me on friday, touching me and stuff. On sunday she was being funny with me and flirting with my friend. She sent that in a text message last night. I wussed out with her asking where I stand etc so maybe that caused her to loose attraction but I really needed to know so I don’t regret it.
Sorry to hear about that romance ending. But if she is as good a friend to you as she is with her female friend, who knows. Give it a test in a while - after things cool down, see if she’ll help set you up with any cute friends she has.
Your experiences with IH are normal. The beta-nols help generate feelings of connection with people - hence the conversations and feelings of rapport. The occasional sharing of “deep secrets” arises out of that connection and rapport - not usually the other way around.
Thanks bosshank. Shes very close to her female friend, they’ve known each other for years and have been sharing a flat for the past 2 months. I’ve only really turned up in there lives about 6 months ago. I know all about the friend zone and doubt I’ll get out if thats where I’ve really been put which I’m pretty sure I have although like I said she must have lost attraction real quick as she seemed into me on friday.
I can’t wait to try another large dose of Instant Honesty out, I was suprissed at how much of a fun vibe it gave of.
Well, I don’t know if that was the reason, but I know I would have regretted wussing out like that. I’ve personally changed my stance, if someone asks me if I’m into a girl, I’ll tell them straight up, but in the back of my head I just tell myself, I like her and want to be with her, but if it doesn’t happen, no big – she’s just one of the girls I want to be with.
lol well those 4 words “attraction isn’t a choice” have made someone a lot of money and I believe in them. So I don’t fully believe you can train yourself to put someone your attracted to in the friend zone. We’ve had a lot of comfort together over the last few months so I thought it was ok to wuss out every now and then. I think shes just met someone she likes more or someone who doesn’t have the drama between her and her friend.
I’m in a position now where I can see her as a friend and not have all the baggage we’ve had recently. I can be a lot more indifferent and light than I have been recently and with ammo I don’t think it will be to hard to become attractive again. Theres no pressure on me screwing up because somewhere along the way I obviously have already done and with no pressure I’m much more happy and can be much more fun around her. She will either sees shes likes me more than she thought or we continue to just be friends either way is much better than the situation we’ve just been in so it’s really good.
Well, let’s forget the reasons why you’re not putting pressure on yourself and let’s just keep it that way.
Whether you actually screwed up or if it’s just something she’s dealing with herself isn’t relevant. Just keep it lighthearted and as you said, you’ll be much more happy and be able to have more fun.
