Instant Honesty x4 - it holds you under until you drown

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Hunting in Scotland now on two fronts as the job interviews take me further and further afield. I love the Scottish dialect on girls, I really do. Could listen to it all day, which is very lucky for me, as it turns out.

I decided to change my signature, so I pulled out Instant Honesty x4. The bottle seemed to burn with a blue fire from within as the sun hit it. Sprayed twice, once on each wrist.

Oh no, no, no, no. Bad move? Maybe. Maybe not.

I stop off in Glasgow for a drink before I travel back down south and I’m sat at a long table, a free seat at the side of me. It’s soon occupied by a very cute mid-20s girl with surprisingly little makeup on. That was the first thing I noticed about her. The lack of makeup was no loss, however. Rosebud lips, clear complexion, sparkling blue eyes and a genuinely warm smile. Tousled wavy just-got-out-of-bed dark blonde hair, almost brown.

I fix her with a smile and eye contact until her gaze flickers and meets mine again. She returns it with a smile that I swear lights up the place and I take that as my cue. “Clumsy penguin.”

Another smile. That Highland dialect. “I’m sorry?”

“Just something that breaks the ice,” I say, grinning back at her. “Hi, I’m MuskCloud. How are you?”

She turned in her seat so she was facing me, propped an elbow on the table, leaned her head onto her hand and toyed with that rich, deep dark blonde hair all the time she was talking. She wouldn’t stop and hardly broke eye contact in all the time we were there. I made sure I maintained it as well as a smile on my lips the whole time. Well worth it.

Talk about opening the floodgates. The hours started to whip past on my mobile’s clock display. Customers came and went, to be replaced by others. At first, I tried to keep up my end of the conversation, but was quickly reduced to uh-huhhing, humming and the occasional “yes” or “no” with the appropriate emotional inflection as I was submerged under a tale of her life, past loves, what her 50 closest friends think about her new wardrobe, her cat’s opinion, her dog’s opinion… … all with the silky, lilting Highland in her voice.

In short, her entire life history for the past 10 years or so. When she eventually finished and had to run for a train, we had been sat there for 3 hours, 46 minutes. I missed my train, missed the one after, and the one after that one. I didn’t care. I did feel completely drained though. I promised that we would meet up again if I got the job up there and she was really happy about that. We kissed on the cheek, hugged - for a full minute - and she left.

I rescued her name out of the flood. She’s Jacs, short for Jacqueline. Ooh yeah. She’s worth moving north of the border for. Oh, and putting up with the verbal torrent. By all the gods, she had a mouth on her.

Musk

Greetings from the Great White North
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very nice observations MuskCloud. i can relate to your story, but i had a long and deep conversation with a guy not a hot girl so it was no fun.:frowning:
Instant Honesty definately works for you, great hit.

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Whoa! betanol is strong

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great post.

no one believes it until they try it.

i only have 2X honesty and i get to the point where im saying how do you shut this stuff OFF ???

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At x8 strength, it’s excruciatingly powerful. I’m the type that finds it difficult to interrupt or drop a conversation in mid-flow. At what point do you feel responsibility for your target’s behaviour?

I’m at least partly responsible for Jac’s loose tongue, testing the pheromones on her, which made me feel just a little bit honour bound to hear her out. Even if it did take nearly 4 hours.

Musk

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Four hours of that wonderful lilting highland accent coming from a beautiful woman, it must have been hell!

I am willing to sacrifice myself for you, PM her number and I’ll introduce her to the other end of the UK, 650 miles of separation ought to wean her off you!:wink:

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Nice try, but not a chance, legal eagle. :smiley: Leave this one to me and find another pair of blue eyes to gaze into. :slight_smile:

Musk

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I have, I’m in Cornwall, she’s in Coventry :frowning:

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I’m sorry. Long distance relationships suck. Been there, done that. Hope yours works out better.

Musk

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Hey don’t sweat it Musk, I’ve still got the wife here in Cornwall :stuck_out_tongue::smiley:

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Great report MuskCloud. Nice opener, and yeah you have definitely discovered the punch IH4x packs. It shows the power of socials guys. It can also be really overwhelming to some people though. Either way, way to go! :smiley:

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I love beta nol and hate it too. I love it because of the forced honesty, which, when paired with sexual pheros, makes for a lot of “I can’t believe how much I want to f*** you, and we’ve only just met!” I hate it because it affects me so powerfully that I have been the one who unleashed verbal torrents while trying to cause them, on a few occasions. lol

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It had no effect on me, but then I was aware I was wearing it, kept my tongue on a short leash and managed to avoid a verbal tsunami.

All Jacs needed anyway was the occasional ‘uh-huh’, ‘umm-hmm’, ‘yes’, ‘no’, ‘I know…’, and ‘He did what?’ (select as appropriate) at the right moment to keep the torrent flowing.

Oh, and pay attention. That’s essential. Women can tell if you switch off and it all goes south. You can 'mone up on enough Honesty to make a corpse blab secrets on the afterlife and it won’t save the conversation.

Musk

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I appear to be hypersensitive to some of these mones… but trust me, if I am gonna fail to pay attention, it’s not going to be to an attractive woman unless she shows me she’s not worth paying attention to first! lol

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lol next time i meet a girl, I’m gonna say:“Hi, I’m dpayne292, nice to meet you :slight_smile:” : p. no but great post

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True enough, but if there’s one thing Instant Honesty has taught me - as if I needed it - is that women converse differently from men. I mean no disrespect to any female readers, but to a male mind, they spend a lot of time saying very little for all the immense numbers of words they use. No offence intended. :slight_smile:

Online conversations are different. I can only thank whatever powers-that-be who run this universe that a woman’s verbal centres in her brain are not wired directly to her fingers! :open_mouth:

They line up multiple attack vectors on one subject and go over it again and again until they’ve exhausted every possible angle, and then start another attack run on it with her friend’s opinion and so on until she’s run through all her 50 closest friends.

They can spend ages just ruminating on the emotional impact of said friend’s opinion and it will be repeated 50 times over with each one.

I challenge any guy to maintain concentration for 4 hours - however physically attractive she is - without drifting off and her picking up on it. It helps if you have a genuine fascination with psychology, the gender differences between men and women and what goes on in her head.

Musk

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Musk, without blowing my own trumpet, I have some insight into the workings of the female mind ( but I doubt my ex would agree!) and can, at a push, align my thinking with the female mind to some degree.

Multiple attack vectors, aka multitasking is best illustrated by a married couple I’ve known for years. She is the archetypal housewife, cooking, feeding baby, talking on the phone and planning the shopping list, ALL AT THE SAME TIME. He, on the other hand is the typical guy, turns the volume down on the car stereo when he hits a traffic jam and turns the TV off when he’s talking on the phone.

He rang me up one day to tell me that he had mastered multitasking, he managed to roast the meat, boil the potatoes and steam the vegetables, at the same time, he made the gravy and had set the table. Unfortunately, whilst talking to me, I asked him if he was stirring the gravy, at which point he got confused as to which hand he had the phone in and stirred the gravy with it!

Probably the most important lesson that I’ve learnt is this, when a woman lets rip with the verbal onslaught about her marital issues, son’s cold or whatever, she is just looking for a sympathetic ear to go 'he didn’t, ahh, no, how much?" etc. They are, generally, not looking for a solution, which is, of course, the first thing us guys tend to do!

Try to think like a woman, they’ll love you for it, trust me :wink:

Excellent book that describes the differences, Why Men don’t listen and women can’t read maps, by Allan and Barbara Pease. Worth it’s weight in gold.

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Diamond,

I had my own little “female moment” back there, just having a little moan about gender differences in conversation and why it’s so hard to understand each other, even if we are talking the same language. :o

I’ve read most of the books that deal with the men vs. women in life and relationships issue, just out of interest. I remember picking up Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus years ago in a bookstore. I became so absorbed in it, I snuck off into a corner somewhere behind the bookshelf, read it cover to cover and replaced it. A bit bad of me, but it was my first wake-up call, a bucket of cold water over the head.

Women don’t think like men. Women. Don’t. Think. Like. Men. Wow!

Before, I was talking to them like I would talk to a guy, and wondered why they seemed to get bored and drift off to talk to someone else. It did my early attempts at the dating game no favours.

In turn, I would get frustrated as to why we were talking the same language, we’re the same species - allegedly, m’lud. The jury’s still out on that little point :smiley: - and we were utterly incapable of meaningful communication.

I got bored with the repetitive, circular nature of female communication, how they jump incessantly from one topic to another without pause and back again. Made it very difficult to follow if you’re used to the one-track nature of communication amongst men where any changes of subject are often clearly marked.

Have you ever seen a woman maintain a simultaneous conversation with 5 of her friends, all talking over each other, ignoring the “normal” rules of conversation, but still able to keep track of every little thing that was said? Amazing! Fascinating! How the hell??? I’d burn my brain out if I tried that.

Which is why I’m happy now to allow myself to be reduced to the occasional uh-huh, umm-hmm method of keeping a conversation going. Now that I understand the engineering in her head and why she does what she does, it’s a lot easier to put myself in her shoes, metaphorically speaking, of course! LOL! :smiley: Think like a woman, indeed.

One of my favourite books - I approach this more from a scientific, engineering POV, rather than the mushy self-help style - is Why Gender Matters by Leonard Sax, M.D., Ph.D.

Very useful for all the insights it gives into gender psychology. Gender concentrates on the learning issue, but it’s still useful for all the insights it gives.

Thanks for the laugh about your friend’s phone. :smiley:

Musk

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There is however, one question that eludes scientific knowledge. Why do women need so many shoes?

While we’re at it, do they really expect an honest answer when they ask ‘does my bum look big in this’?

:wink:

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First question, God knows.

Second, I’m not going there. It’s a war zone no matter what the answer is.

One very useful piece of scientific knowledge: talking gives women an emotional high, very similar to orgasm. When I read that, I thought, “Wahey! :smiley: Keep her talking, Musk. A small part of her mind is thinking, ‘Yes, yes, yes! Oh, yes!’”

Out loud, I say, “Uh-huh.”

Her tongue runs off with her again and her mind orgasms right, left and centre, LOL! :smiley:

That’s the one thing that keeps me interested in the conversation, no matter how long it gets. No wonder they like talking so much and why they love a guy that can actually talk to them.

Heh. Every guy who reads this now is going to scramble for the socials, LOL! :smiley:

Musk