so yesterday I wore instant honesty + turn up the heat during the day
went to study with a girl who has a bf, she was very close to me, i felt the honesty part.. I have a huge problem connecting with people on deeper levels especially women, i felt that girl was like my sister..she was actually being annoying sometimes but I was happy because girls NEVER let their guards down around me..she did.
at NIGHT: i was going for a dinner with my roommate and a friend whom I haven’t seen in 3 weeks.
I put on 4 sprays of instant openness for my guys.., on my arms..and two ammo to my neck (for the waitress )
so we go to chillis, and man my friends were DOWN..Bored..the place was dead too, they sent us an old chubby waitress, she was happy and giggly whenever she served us and i talked.. i guess it worked for her lol, but I couldn’t see why were so down, I’ve been feeling great lately, my roommate just came from over seas and is having TONS of fun in america, my friend just got back from california which was a lot of fun (he was tired from the flight though)..
but interesting, i don’t know if instant openness can be negative on guys, any similar observations?
No this is the first time I have heard reports of IO bringing anyone down. If it was just one of you I would say its possible that it was a bad reaction to it but not all of you.
How many sprays of TUTH did you use in the morning ?
Did you shower between the TUTH and the AMMO applications ?
How many hours after you applied TUTH did you apply AMMO ?
Androstenone tends to stay on your skin for a very long time - much longer than most other pheromones. So it’s possible that you got into the OD zone with Androstenone with two sprays Ammo and the residues of your TUTH you put on earlier. Often people feel the effects of -none still even after showering, so this is really sticky… Men often react negative while you are still seeing positive results from women.
I wouldn’t have worn the Turn Up The Heat. I would have chosen something like Ammo, or even no androstenone at all. The waitress being chatty with your while your friends being glum? That’s a typical reaction. Women don’t react as negatively to androstenone as men do. Especially older women.
If it is more like an exhaustion rather than depression, it will make more sense, since at larger dose (50 mcg), I can experience some low energy after beeing burned out
Being around Instant Shine or Instant Openness can be exhausting, especially if you are not naturally an extravert. After wearing pheromones, sometimes I find myself really “crashing” at night. I’m not naturaly an extravert, and sometimes the pheromones push me towards that. It’s like you just had a really intense experience. So use with care.
no I didn’t shower between application of turn up the heat and ammo. I put turn up the heat on in the morning, two sprays..then re-applied it 4 hours later one spray..then maybe 6 hours later I wore ammo and instant openness.
by the way, people here talked about reactions to turn up the heat negatively from guys… guys are NICER to me when I wear it. I don’t know why. That night I overdosed at the club (you can see my post)..I had three guys that i met before just chatting me up and super friendly/complimenting eventhough i was quite that night, and their girls were just staring from a distance.. maybe alcohol is a factor.. turn up the heat in the recreation center made the desk girls horny but they were not enjoying it, maybe i should ease on it for day time..
Instant shine and ammo mixed together (2 ammo-1 shine) when I tried it made the soap shop girl horny/nervous/not knowing what she’s saying..and made the blonde girl at bestbuy follow me around store getting her nose in every question i had..made the guy working there inferior and submissive to my requests..like he was helping me from a position of weakness, which I didn’t like..I don’t want to take people’s powers away..
question: when the perfume smell is gone but the musky/weird smell is still there on your skin the morning after (8 hours later) does the none still have effect?
Instant Shine made my dad’s gf depressed. Who knows, we all react differently but those types of reactions are quite unusual I think. Could have been a TUTH residue + Ammo OD effect.
I think your wore to much anone, and the TUTH you wore to the office was a waste really even if they got horny its hardly the enviroment to wear this product. I am sure there boyfriends and SO’s were thankful though especially if they arrived home in a aroused state.
There were probably a little edgier around you, on their toes. Strangers do that. It doesn’t mean they like you more subconsciously- that they trust you. Androsterone or androsterol are really the more “safety” pheromones that allow people to get closer to you emotionally. With friends, androstenone can be overbearing, like they wish you’ld just “chill out”. This is also a component of what we call the “Lone Wolf Syndrome”- a guy that tends to push people away with his vibes and behavior.
It’s sort of like Machiavelli- androstenone will get you “feard” more than “loved” by guys. Fear can be respect for some people, but personally I don’t buy that. Eventually somebody will want to stab you in the back if they can’t please you and make you go away (those guys in the club were probably trying to make you “soften up” a bit, perhaps? Alcohol was probably also a factor, they were probably less aware period). In low doses, androstenone is just edgy and may not do much of anything other than give that “edge” feeling and create a bit of a “boundary” around you, so people don’t get too close emotionally.
This is the mistake I see from alot of other pheromone websites and marketters/producers. Blatant wearing of androstenone, in large amounts, without awareness of the consequences. And of course, everybody’s reaction differ. If you wear alot of anti-persperant, you may have alot less natural pheromone production, for instance, or perhaps you produce less androstenone naturally.
You can also do things physically to make people feel better if you are wearing androstenone, like complimenting them, making some eye contact, self depricatory humor, and being courteous. Perhaps you have a bit of a “lone wolf” personality? You should try something like a little Instant Gentleman and Instant Openness, or even Instant Openness and Instant Shine. You will get very different reactions, people will feel alot more chummy with you.
It’s not an Androtics product but WAGG is also good. It has no cover scent so self-effects are pretty high without cologne. It works well with Instant Shine.
^ thanks for the input, interesting… I don’t know what lone wolf is.. I am a ONE man though.. like I’m super outgoing super extrovert and social. I talk to everyone especially during day time..but I am to myself. I am not part of a social small group, I just mix with everyone but without becoming a member or a main element in their group.. I have friends but not so close.. part of it is that I grew up without friends for most of my life until I turned 18 and left my parents shell and started learning how to socialize, I learned how to be cool but I haven’t learned yet how to be NEEDED or MISSED.. one of the mysteries I haven’t solved yet is..that when I first wanted to get rid of my shyness and become more social I thought the key to being liked by others is coolness so I became cooler, yet still I see really boring guys who have nothing going on for them, not even personality, and they have a group of friends who LOVE them and take care of them and consider them part of their daily lives..and started wondering what they have that I don’t have.. I’m still trying to figure that out..
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Im confused because you also say they werent enjoying it? Needed relief? 