I live with two Females (One is 19, the other is 22) They are great, however, they have been doing a bunch of small things that are really getting on my nerves.. (Running up electricity, loosing my stuff, leaving the house a mess) I decided I want to talk to them, and let them know everything that is bothering me. I am torn about what I should spray myself with before this awkward conversation..
I am 24 years old… They are pretty easy to talk to, and we are pretty good friends.. The 19 year old is a bit immature, and self centered, but the 22 year old is more calm, and understanding. OH PLUS… They are sisters.
I just wanted to try, and get a couple of quick opinions on what other people would trust in when it comes to uncomfortable conversations. If you have other mix ideas, I would like to know as well! I have never used my mones for serious conversations like this!!
Avoid A314/IO. If you check the store page, IO is the product advised for toning down the effects of A314 and IME it more or less wrecks A314. If you feel the need to use IO, try using less A314 or A314/IS instead.
IO also has the potential to induce very superficial conversation - which is fine if you are somewhere like a club where the noise makes conversation difficult. I tend to go for IH/IS for a much better quality conversation vibe - the IS helps keep things in a happy friendly direction as IH alone can go deep in good and bad ways. This is also very usable alongside A314, the mainly betanol IH does not affect it in anything like the same way as the mainly alphanol IO.
IO/IH is pretty much the official replacement for CTTM2 (strictly its 2x of each) and yes, that can unleash a torrent of conversation but again, its quality is not quite as good as IH/IS.
Do you have any P74? IH/P74 at approx 2:1 alongside A314 is a superb vibe if you intend to lecture someone and be taken seriously. A very impressive/talented vibe - I use this a lot at public events at work where sometimes I do need to boss people around and it does work very well indeed!
I do love my IH… IO, is always tricky for me. You know what Mobocaster, I do have P74.. Maybe I should give P74 + IH + A314 a try! I have never actually used that combination, but P74 does wonders alongside Ammunition for me.
I have P74 in 5mcg a spray, Are you saying 2 parts IH to 1 part P74?
Maybe a bit more - I use a 10mcg spray P74 and 2 IH to 1 P74 is just right for me. I don’t usually go over 20mcg (max 30) P74 unless there is a very overt sexual (eg TUTH or NPA) in there as it gets too just friends for attraction but a higher dose may be fine around your housemates if there is nothing else going-on.
A314/IH/P74 is also a winner with Indian (subcontinental) women.
1 drop of A314 + 10mcg of P74, and 2 sprays of IH.
My roommates started out a bit defensive, but overall they were quite talkative, and responsive. I wasn’t afraid to tell them what was really on my mind, and they seemed to pay good attention to what I was saying. One of them shared a sad story from her past, and even cried, That was a little different! Overall it was a good talk, and we all feel better about things. No more awkwardness around the house!
Overall I felt like I had a gentle nudge in the right direction with this mix. It really makes me want to try this combo for a week or two, and see what kinds of small changes may occur.
Do you use this mix for pick up often? How does it compare to something like Ammo + IS?
A little p75 will help you talk a little deeper and seem more in control by steering the other pheros in that direction. I’d go with 2 drops of A314 and 1 spray of p75. No Instant Shine. You don’t want them to think you’re happy. And Instant Honesty may backfire and you might open up to much.
All you want to do is be taken seriously. So use A314, be straight forward with them…but be calm. That’s why I like p75..it would help tremendously with the calm strong Dos Equis man vibe.
I don’t yet have a bottle of P75, I was considering trying it out though. I don’t know what kinds of situations I would find it useful. It seems to me that P75 works well with Ammo?
I’ve used it a lot in the past IH/P74, plus A314 and a sexual - The main reasons I stopped using it was because of the amount of potentially awkward fallout (ie married!) I was getting - esp at work. I limit its use now. Still, there are few mixes I’ve tried yet that can get such intimacy, comfort, admiration and physical/sexual closeness going in such a short time.
Very different to Ammo/IS - This is much more heavygoing/mature social, more like an authority figure and bonding/involving thing. Helluva good with Indian (subcontinental) women too.
Then I discovered P114/A314 (again, usable with or without a sexual) which has a similar but more direct and commanding vibe and less by way of fallout. I’ve also found women much more amenable to some fairly adventurous activity, straight-off the mark with this mix and even have the photos to prove it!
I have used P75 with both and I’m not convinced it adds a lot but it may be useful in a younger context. Most of my best results are from mid 20s-up
Hey mobo… Do you think IO/IH combo gives fruitless conversation too? You state IO gives fruitless and IH gives good convo , but what did you find a mix of them does?
