Interesting site...

Skin Pheromones for attraction and bonding

hmmm. They seem to say that plant pheromones work better on humans… I wonder if these are any of the putatives, or if AD just deals in human pheromones.

Calypso’s oil has been around for years. Its good stuff but I would not say its better then human pheromones. Its just different. It does have a effect though and I have been buying it for years. Great for the skin to.

I believe Jasmin has mentioned they use musks but she called them human musks so I am not sure what that meant. I guess human musks are scents that humans make that are not derived from hormones like pheromones are.

There are many different plants that evoke responses in people though. Its what aromatherapy is based on. Neroli increases feelings of attraction.

Lavender calms and eases thats why Johnson and Johnson has a line of baby products in lavender.

Using plant pheromones in conjunction with your human pheromones makes them more effective IMO. However there is a lot to be said about the power of pure plant extracts. They are quite amazing.

The problem with commercial perfumes is they dont consider the properties or effects that each EO produces much. They are more focused on coming up with a new scent that will sell and they use to many different EO’s sometimes in one scent. This overloads the senses just like when you use to many pheromones. In aroma therapy and flower essence therapy you want to enhance the senses not over load them so you dont mix as many. You keep it more simple. Its another reason I love them just using neroli here and not over doing it with tons of commercial type scents. I also like the hand mixed EO’s that vendors make online.

Tisha

Hmm… Maybe I’ll try some of it, see if it ups my Mone hits or effects. I agree that fragrances these days are too complex, almost confusing. I want to find some good essential oils that are just really simple… and see if I like those!

know any good places to get these? :slight_smile:

I personally use Snowdrift and Common Scents LLC to get my essential oil supplies among other things. Give it a look if your interested.

What’s a good essential oil to start off with… Just not sure what to try first. is there one that a lot of people use, or is just popular… or your favorite?

Personal favorite is Sandalwood. Id say is a good start and one that i like by itself. Its quite aromatic but not too strong for the nose. Among the essential oils it has a distinct raw masculinity to it IMO and I use it for my home made oil mixes typically. It also has nice self effects as well, you can read about it on the net.

The great thing about using essential oils for mix pheros rather than cologne is versatility. For example with a sandalwood phero mixture I can wear a musk/woody/ leather type colognes with it and it will complement the sandalwood. If you do it right in some instances you could even wear something that contrasts just dont wear things of totally opposite likenesses together.

Okay, got it. Another query I have… Do you just mix them on your skin? I could just foresee there being a problem trying to mix oil and alcohol base products. I think I’m going to jumpin and try sandalwood. What have you seen in differences between mone’s effects with EO, vs just wearing them solo?

Heres the thing with that question. I do understand where your coming from with it but you can’t wear essential oils directly on the skin. If you do so it can be a terrible irritant to the skin and it basically gets absorbed into you skin and will circulate through your body (not a good thing). Fragrance oils are the ones you can apply to skin. These are not as potent and are cut down versions of essential oils/perfume/cologne.

If your going to buy the sandalwood you do have to mix it either with alcohol or with the alcohol with the mones as Essential oils are the building blocks of perfumery and are too potent for a skin application.

Like I’ve said previously I use EO’s with mones for self effects. Sandalwood helps me maintain a sense of well being even if I’m distressed or in a ill mood. Androtics already uses the olfactory tech since the use of Neroli or Akuto among other things foster enhanced results of the molecules they implement in the products. As far as wearing solo I would take that as wearing mones unscented. For the most part I never wear things unscented and if I do I always wear a cologne with it.

If your ultimately asking if you can get even better results from others with EOs when using pheromones the answer is yes. It takes time and experimentation with the EOs to cultivate something masterful. When you find the right combination of EO’s in the right ratios with the right pheromone mix. The levels of success can be infinite. Once you ascertain this knowledge with some trial and error you’ll know what I mean :slight_smile:

By just wearing them solo I just meant with their 6% neroli, which is what most of mine are. Yea I was wondering if they were too strong to just apply, the site was very unclear… just said good for body fragrance. I’m very interested in this and can’t wait to start testing. Just have to figure out how much EO to put in with x amount of mones. I have a couple of un-fragranced, but like you I always put it on a cologne I already have.

Just stop answering if I’m bugging you lol… lots of learning to do on this side of things, but I’m a quick learner, and not scared to make mistakes. Does EO mix well with the alcohol base? Will there be separation that will make it so that it will have to be shaken every time or something of that nature? Can’t wait to order some and get mixing! This may be the advent of a whole new side of scents for me. Very fun :cool:

I dont mix single putatives with EO and normally I think the neroli/grape/akuto suffices unless its a really strong smelling putative/experimone. The amount of EO is highly dependent on what your doing and how strong you want it to be. If your making a oil mix it has to be strong but if your making something less viscous in a cologne-parfum grade sort of ratio a 12-22 percent EO in the mixture will be generally good.

Youtube has a plethora of aromatic enthusiasts that explain how to mix EO’s and make homemade cologne as such. Its a good place to get started.

Cologne is basically high grained alcohol/perfumers alcohol mixed with either a single or various essential oils although theres variations of PA that exist but you have to know what you want and read about it. When you do mix it won’t fuse completely at first. It takes time but eventually the alcohol and EO will meld together fully. High amounts of alcohol with a little oil will dilute it and a little alcohol with lots of EO will maintain its thickness to a good degree. I like shaking cause its fun because I get this whole mad scientist vibe for the next half hour or so but I dont think its absolutely necessary. This is to say that it doesnt have to be done religiously for the 7-30 days but when I first mix it I shake it and perhaps at the end of that first day I will do so again. Its more about letting it settle and not tinkering around with it till the components have gotten to know each other.

And the answering questions thing is okay. I hurt my knees pretty bad a week or two ago and Im sidelined from doing any exercise or excessive walking atm. Even driving hurts me knee. So you actually give me something to do.

I like hobbies that have nuance to it and can be beneficial to me. Pheromones and aromatherapy just happen to complement each other very well.

dude that’s a bummer… but a plus for me I guess. Hope your knees heal up nicely! Oh yea I hadn’t thought of trying Youtube yet. I’ll give that a whirl for sure. There’s nothing at all wrong with feeling like a mad scientist lol.. that’s fantastic.

There’s still so much to think of… bah… First I’ll have to think of a base mix first, to try and make my first mix EO with. I may just start very small and make a very small amount of each mix just to test things out… like 1/4 of a to-go lets say, I think this will help me make the mistakes i need to make, without losing too much money in the process lol. Also to do the basic math I need to know how many sprays are in each… 30ML is 40 sprays and what are the to-gos?

6.667 sprays per mL for a 30 mL bottle. 200 sprays in a full bottle
8 sprays per mL for a to go bottle. 40 sprays in a full bottle

All you gotta do is multiply what you want per spray times the amount of sprays in One mL of the bottle your using. So if you want 1 mcg per spray and your only making 1 mL of mix then you need 8 mcgs of that molecule because theres 8 sprays in a to go mL. If your gonna do a full bottle then adjust your numbers accordingly.

You can take the basic Ammo formula and tweak it with P75/P83/TAC or others but for your first trials you should try putatives/experimones that you can are workable in a 1-7 mcg per spray range which P75 certainly qualifies.