just came in the mail

the CTTM2 i ordered just came in the mail. lol and with a small to go size of instant honesty. but i was wondering what the best way to apply the CTTM2 is?

CTTM prefer spraying it on the forearms specifically for nol based things =).
Good luck with your phero journey.

Nol based?

Suggestion: One spray to your neck for the self effect and one to you hair for diffusion.

It really depends. Like mvk said, spraying on your neck may produce self effects and spraying on your hair will limit self effects, but increase diffusion because heat is lost through your head and this will help disperse the pheromones. Olfact suggested spraying nol based products on the forearms. I believe he suggested this to minimize self effects from nol.

Androstenol comes in two forms, Alpha and Beta. Alpha nol produces a young and fun vibe, whereas Beta nol produces a trustworthy and comfortable vibe. CTTM2 is about 50:50 Alpha nol:Beta nol. IH is about 70:30 Beta:Alpha. Self effects that some people get from alpha nols are increased playfulness and happiness. Beta nol tends to relax people and has been known to make people open up about themselves more than usual.

So you can see why olfact’s suggestion of spraying on the forearms, and mvk’s suggestion of spraying on the hair can come in handy. This would allow exposure of the pheromones while minimizing self effects, if that is what you wanted to do. If you want to get self effects, then apply to the neck.

It’s usually best to start at 1 spray and work your way up, but with CTTM you can start at 2 with minimal, if any, negative side effects.

ok yea so i just got back from the first night of using it which included a spray to each side of my neck and 1 to my chest…i didnt really notice much of a change in things. i mean i want the self effects but then again i also want it to affect others…like especially when i wanna talk to girls

I think that hair is not so good application point.I think that the neck is warmer than the hairs of the hair.And as we all know androstenol can convert to androstenone witch is very sticky and hard to remove pheromone and if the sking can be scrubbed - with hair there can be some problems.One can always use hydrogen peroxude to scrub some hard to remove pheros off the skin ( do not use too much hydrogen peroxyde though ) but if applied to hair this will bleach it.And if one wants less self effects - there is always the back of the neck. :wink:

As for applying to chest - well chest are covered with clothes so this would mean harder difusion witch isn’t desirable.

So my perfect scheme for using CTTM2 is 3-4 sprays spread on the :
1.Inside of the both forearms and
2.Front of the neck (stronger self effects )/ back of the neck ( lesser self effects )

ok so after night 2 of tryin CTTM2. involved 2 sprays to each forearm and 2 sprays to the front of my neck. no luck still…everytime i would try to initiate a convo with a friend it was like i was invisible or he/she didnt have much to say…so idk? did i kinda OD maybe?

OD on CTTM2 has such effect.When I used 6-7 sprays it was the same - just like I was invisible.Not to mention that the self effects made me introverted.Try 2-3 sprays and see what happens.

When I saw the title of this post I thought, “Yuck” then I realised what you meant.

I’d try wrists for CTTM2, you’ll get less self-effects and your gestures will spread the cloud around you.

The good thing is with social products like CTTM when OD’ing really the only thing that could happen is too much chatter around you, so you should be A-OK :slight_smile:

The “nols” mentioned above are Alpha Androtenol and Beta Androstenol. They are also known as Anol and Bnol respectively. Anol is the quantity of conversations (it’s what makes people chatty) where as Bnol is the quality of the conversation (think deep rapport). With CTTM what I would do is start out with a couple of sprays and use it on a good exposed pulse point like skin of the wrists.

Be also sure to be in an area where it’s OK to speak, not like school. In school they discourage kids from speaking their minds, they want you to drink the cool aid and free speech is a distraction :slight_smile:. So go someplace where speech and talking are appropriate. Use a couple of sprays for a few days and see what goes on around you. After a couple of days spray an additional spray and use for a couple of days.

I’m pretty sure that many users have reported that their best results came around 5-8 sprays, but the key is everyone is different. That’s what makes us all unique little snowflakes :wink:. Seriously though use it in different situations and different amounts until you find what works for you best. If you have any questions or need more assistance of course you can always call in and I would be super happy to personally offer some assistance.

ok sounds good…tonights run consisted of me taking my bottle of cttm2 out with me and applying it later in the night. in which case i did 1 spray to each forearm and one to the front neck and one to the back neck. still really no changes yet…didnt notice self effects or effects on others

I’m not a big fan of CTTM2 by itself. Others have had good experiences with wearing it by itself, but I’ve found it works best for me as a buffer for other things, like TUTH or A314. Also keep in mind that the things you need to be looking for are subtle. How to Tell a Woman is Interested In You -- The Master "Indicators of Interest List"

Another thing to remember is that -nols by themselves may cause you to come off as too Beta (or soft). That’s another reason I like to use them with some -rone or -none. If this happens women may not pay as much attention to you if they want a “manly” man. Other men may walk all over you because you come off as soft and beneath them. But it’s really all about your attitude. You can wear CTTM and be actively talking to people and joking around and you will still come off as an Alpha male. But if you have it on and stand in a corner, or walk around sulking or with your head down, it’s just going to intensify the vibe of a Beta male.

ok so recent updates

Night 4
a spray to each wrist and a spray to my neck. still no effects really not even self ones.

Night 5
1 spray to both wrists and 2 to the neck…still no effects self or on others.

so should i maybe up the usage?

ok so after 8-10 sprays and still no effects im starting to think this stuff doesnt work.

Does CTTM2 take time to be released it lasts longer?

I just got CTTM2 not too long ago myself. I couldn’t really notice anything wearing it by itself at two sprays. When I decided to wear it in a mix with other pheromones I did notice the that my conversations flowed smoothly. I’m sure that this stuff works but that it works in a very subtle way. The problem is that with you being so new, you don’t really know what to look for. With pheromones you can’t just sit back and expect people to start running up to you. You have to be proactive not reactive. Just keep trying though.

what did you mix it with? and yea ive tried ALOT to be proactive and it just doesnt seem to do it.