Kidboyo Pheromone Journal

kidboyo · November 25, 2016, 6:34pm

I am starting this journal aproximately one month after my initial order from Androtics. I have had a chance to play around with A314 rev32 spray b, Instant Shine, Instant Honesty, Ammo (world), TUTH, Instant Gentleman, and P133.
Here is a link to my intro- https://pheromonetalk.com/t/major-success-on-first-night/66559/20

Initial impression/results this month-
Firstly, Pheros definately work to affect the mood and actions of others around us. That much is absolutely clear.

A314 rev32 sprayB- I wore one spray as a base every morning during a week long remodel (I am independent contractor) and this couple in their 50s were super nice and respectful and let me handle everything. I noticed the first few days the husband, while very nice, was always trying to talk over me as i was explaining something. The a314 gives me confidence, " I am confident in my knowledge and I will tell you what needs to be done." type feel. I feel the man was just trying to be the man of house by talking over me, or maybe a type of sh*t testing, since I ended up being percieved as a more established figure than they initially thought for my age. By the end of the week, they both were totally submissive. We were all very respectful of each other and the job went smooth.
My live-in girlfriend shows more respect with this, but during arguments, being a stubborn person, she will at times just walk to the other room rather than argue or submiss.

Instant Shine- I have only used this as a standalone once, and it does make me feel better. I usually put one spray on my wrists. I play drums/ lead guitar, and this, especially in combination with Instant Honesty, really boosts creative output!

Instant Honesty- there have been several instances where the self effects almost got me into trouble. I find myself spilling details i normally would ommit. I usually use this and instant shine while drinking wine and jamming on drums in evening. By the time my girlfriend gets home I am a social butterfly, cant stop talking lol. There have been a few times where girlfriend shared some things about her family/past. Nothing too revealing. I usually use one spray on my hair.

Ammo (world)- Initially I thought this was rather useless. I had tried using it in the evening over my a314 base. Got laid, but she was reluctant.(see intro thread) Since then I have tried two sprays as a standalone. Smells ok as a cologne, not bad. I have noticed after a few hours of wearing ammo, it starts to put out odors i find smell extremely sexual and kinda good. Not sure if this is it combining with my natural scent, or if its the skin bacteria converting the pheromones to the next in progression? Def smells sexual after a few hours, not at first. Kinda like those rare days where you can smell your armpits but for some reason they smell good. Im thinking the nol/rone are slowly converting to none on my skin, making it more sexual as the day goes on? can anyone verify/deny this? Perhaps its just the cologne part wearing off and i can simply smell the pheromones better after a few hours? If I were meeting new women, or going out on a playful adventure, I would use this as a standalone.

TUTH- havnt used this much since m initial intro adventure, as my girlfriend has been on period. I have tested out self effects while masterbating, and it does effect me. Makes me more aggressive, “F**k YA” type personality. Last night I wore a spray under each armpit. My german-descent girlfriend is still on her period, but she was glued to my side with her nose in my armpit while watching a movie. No sex, but she doesnt like it during her period anyways, and we are also going through some tough arguments over her job situation currently.

Instant Gentleman- I bought this two weeks ago as a lighter a314 alternative during my girlfriends period. No negative response, not much of anything though. I suspect Im just used to seeing the more blatant hits of a314.

p133- i tried this a couple different times, first on my neck, a little light headed, not bad,but not much of anything at all. I also tried several sprays on a napkin and sniffed it several times while sitting. Same result. Not much of anything. I have not tried effects on others yet.

Well thats the best i can describe my first month with mones. Been kinda busy with work and also sorting out some issues with my girlfriends car.

I am starting this journal because I am excited about my new purchase, which includes some more advanced mones. I ordered-
IS stealth
TAC 10mcg 3%neroli
p96 10mcg 3%neroli
p102 5mcg stealth
p74 10mcg 3%neroli
p83 10mcg 3%neroli
a314 rev32 spray B (quantity 2)
p128 freebie
Empty 30ml to mix A1 from LS at 25mcg/spray (thanks Ktrain)

Ive spent whole days scouring pherotalk and abosrbing knowledge. I am aware that most of these are expert mones and not standalones. I am working to recapture the intimate part of a love i have with a LTR woman who recently started taking Zoloft (ssri) and comes from a broken home raised by a stepdad.

The introduction of pheromones to my life is like a whole new set of tools to enhance/hack my life. It has also opened up so many more questions. I think about all the times when it mattered little what i actually said, and how the results in any situation are highly dependant on this invisible world of instincts.

I hope I am able to contribute useful experience as the weeks go by.

kidboyo · November 25, 2016, 6:40pm

I have made myself a sort of cheat sheet for a few of the advance pheromones I have coming in the mail. Figured Id add this research. Most of this is directly copied from various pherotalk posts.

p74
Self effects: I used a fairly low dose of 20 mcgs and there was a definite uplifting feeling, albeit mild but definitely present. I also felt a slight confidence boost. Two products that most resemble P74 would be Instant Shine and Instant Gentleman . However, I did notice I built a pretty quick tolerance to this putative , but I build an easy tolerance to most things like caffeine, so this part of the test was inconclusive.

Effects on others: If you ever need to use a product with P74 as the main ingredient, name it Instant Friend. I’m serious. I used 30 mcgs during my sweet spot testing and sometimes people were too friendly, and I was afraid I would get friend zoned too quickly. So I decided to drop down my dose to a measly 20 mcgs and had pretty good results. I have noticed people from both genders treat you like a friend rather than a stranger, and this property makes P74 suitable for all sorts of situations. On some test days, I have also noticed a mild crush effect and the talkative effects of Alpha - nol , however most likely these effects will be negligent.

I would also like to mention I think this would work great with an alpha product such as A314 or Ammo , in appropriate doses.

By now, I am pretty convinced that P74 makes people believe you are a friend rather than a stranger (this explains the events in the past week). Like I mentioned before, I am very excited to use this in a mix because I see this has potential.
I can definitely conclude by now that P74 in friendly for both genders, and it makes you appear as a friend rather than a stranger. Also, judging from today’s reaction, I can say it has a mild crush effect as well.

I believe the 5mcg p74 affords me a higher social status which then allows me to wear high -none mixes

A314 + P74 + alpha and/or beta androstenol will put you on top of just about any social situation. I really believe this is far more important than dousing yourself in androstenone to make yourself ‘sexy’. Attractiveness has a strong social component to it.

p83
To sum it up i think its like a combo of IH + shin or LT + shine. Reduces shyness, makes one seem more outgoing and induces lots of touching. Oxytocin is known to do that but I think p83 works better than lt due to the alpha male vibe it projects as well.

Madison Tate once said that P83 has a “do it NOW!!!” vibe. It accelerates mixes by making those in range more responsive to what you’re wearing. This can backfire however if your target is in a bad mood so it’s best to make sure you have some positive mood lifting pheros to go along with P83 to prevent bad vibes from being enhanced.

P83= Disinhibitor/ attractant

As Josie suggests - P83 seems to disinhibit/raise attraction. Exactly how seems to depend on the other pheros you wear. I reckon the choice between socials/sexuals would steer the kind of response you get.

A lot of people say it’s a disinhibitor. I have also seen somewhat of a flirtatious vibe.

P83 is a disinhibitor, just make sure the person being disinhibited does’nt have it out for you.cheers

From my observations, P83 seems to be hooked to emotions. If there isn’t any emotion involved, it doesn’t do much. But when there is some emotions be it anger, resentment or liking it will make you or others become more passionate about it. Basically it will make you have the thought “I got to say something about this matter” as in defending your case or letting the world know about your position.

my conclusion is P83 is best for sexual mixes,very powerful and overt so be very careful and have fun

Results: women stand near to me, body contact, smilling and even approaching me and asking about telefone number

P83 is said to be a disinhibitor. IME, this is correct in that it makes barriers fall in the sense that people speak/move/feel more freely. More likely to see KINO, more likely to see people giving you that ‘real’ laugh, all without feeling self conscious.

TAC
best described by those close to me as the silly spray
Playful attitudes, helps to ease tension in more of a sedated way. Like pulling an all nighter with friends, getting overtired and everything seems funny or silly.

I don’t use TAC solo because it makes me to laid back and lazy.

As to the effects on others, both male and female, with 2-3 sprays people definitely seemed more relaxed and happy. When people were within close proximity of me with 4-6 sprays, everyone was always in a relaxed, talkative and in a fun mood. This effect has been very consistent at this dosage.

I find when I wear TAC it lightens the mood and relaxes me. Its laid back fun. Things that normally tend to bother me dont bother me as much.

.Hmmm so maybe there is something to the energy as well as flirting with TAC …anyway the 3 german girls who were on my tour showed lots of flirting and then even asked me out afterwards. I’d say thats a pretty damn big hit. That never happens.

TAC’s “letting-go”/orgasm enhancing properties tend to kick-in at doses of 20mcg and over. Much less than that and it tends to behave more like a lightly silly/goofy social.

You know how they say do NOT wear eNone when a girl is on her period? I believe this is sound advice, but next story proves it is possible with some TAC in the mix. Mix:
TUTH - 3 sprays (neck/chest area)
TAC - 15 mcg (neck and top of my hands)
TAC is an excellent eNone buffer. It provides comfort, so much comfort at a 2:1 ratio with eNone that sex during shark week is possible. It’s physically playful, buffers the eNone negatives, while the punch of the eNone still hits her.

This may be amongst the worst mones imaginable to wear in an office if only for the fact that you’ll have a difficult time getting anything done. TAC is that lazy, careless pothead you wish you could be at times. It doesn’t care about anything or anyone. It goes with the flow and is perfectly relaxed and content. Nothing phases TAC, for he hasn’t the care to notice his emotions. TAC isn’t apathy, TAC is a feeling of being fully content with life, and what a beautiful feeling it is.

p96
2 drops A314 and 40mcg P96 was always a really good combo .. it’s save everywhere you go ..
really good effects on guys and on women ( check for the Manga Eyes .. pupills dillate up to the extreme in women )

Has that “pull” factor with women
Acts nearly identical to A! without the depression
Combines great with enone without muting it.

P96 creates a deep, bonding type connection with your target.

Closeness, connection, crushy, fallout

The combo (instant boyfriend) was known for creating extreme attachment in record time. P96 was the core reason it worked, because it tended to amplify the A314 (and specifically the core ingredient, androsterone) very dramatically. It created an intimate connection right off the bat.

It also made combos of other pheromones much smoother ? SteveO calls it the ?bridge? pheromone, because it rounds out and amplifies other pheromones when mixed. Hands down, it is the single most valuable pheromone you can currently get.

P96 with women in small group or 1 on 1 interaction is very powerful. I believe that it gives the bonding feeling that Instant Honesty gives, but you don’t blab your inner thoughts.

P96 will help you develop deep seeded attraction on multiple exposures. I have personally gotten the whole eye lock deep connection while wearing this.

P96 is something akin to waking up in the morning next to someone, and not regretting it.

comfort/connection

Seems P96 makes people want to act on how they feel and removes any barriers that may be holding them back.

I would try out 30 MCG as it is more beautifying and I actually get better hits with like 20-30 MCG . What is cool is that at this dose it attracts women, then I like to have a Togo and put a little more on for when it is time to get intimate and then up it to right around 50 MCG and it works like a charm.

I find that the lower dose seems better for meeting women.

I went to work as normal and I notice people seem to connect with me more emotionally compared with P74 . P74 is more of a happy connecting vibe whereP96 seems to work on people emotions.

What is happening is I am wearing it on my neck and i am getting self effects where i feel i am feeling like i a m just connecting with everyone.

Dee_A · November 26, 2016, 3:52am

Yey! I’m subscribing!

kidboyo · November 26, 2016, 2:13pm

warning-this post includes a mixture of both Androtics and non-Androtics products

OK so my order from Androtics is still on the way, but I recieved my A1 from LS early yesterday.

Background:
My girlfriend and I had a rather bland thanksgiving.. We ate at Dennys and she was a bit sad and missed her family as this was her first thankgiving away from her hometown. We had agreed to set aside this argument weve been having over her job situation for the holiday. Well yesterday morning (black friday) I woke up and immediently got on her case, escalating the argument through texts even as she drove to work. It got rather bad and she said “well you wont have to worry about me in a few months when the lease is up.” She didnt even call on her lunch break.

Mones:
At night I do my "music jamming"mix, 1spray IS to wrists, 1spray IH to hair.
This night I also add 1 spray IG to left elbow and 1 spray ammo to my abs. Also, 1 spray TUTH to each armpit, followed by lightly rubbing it in my deoderant. Right before girlfriend gets home, i dab A1 oil on the back of my neck( clear the dropper and wipe just the little residue on the tip)

Self effects:
IS and IH enhance my jam session as usual. A “guitar god”. Free. Jimi Hendrix. I do feel that the addition of IG and Ammo made me a little too refined and consious for the jam session, noticed the difference a little but still overall great. The TUTH self effect is usually just raw aggression, manliness if anything.. I smelled the bottle of A1 a couple times initially because Ive heard about A1 depression, but it had no effect on me. Later in the night, after wearing it, I feel a cool calmness, like elvis presley, but wouldnt call it deppression.

Results:
Ok Ill try to remember all the changes in my girlfriend last night as this is the morning after.
Summary: F***ing Awesome.
Well, as noted above, we had been in bad fight in the morning and she didnt call from work all day. She is still on her period. When she got off work I told her I had dinner for her sitting on table and i realize that she wont want to eat with me.
She gets home, Im jamming in the music room( where i have my security cam monitor so i usually see her get home), I dont greet her and she comes in and does her thing, get dressed, feed dogs, etc in bedroom.
I eventually stepped out and said something non chelant to her, knowing i had the A1 on.. I kinda sense she senses something.. back to jamming…
She interupts me in music room to show me a card her sister sent. (She never comes in while im jamming, too loud for her) I read it and am friendly. back to jamming…
She brings me a cold root beer she had gotten at work. This is now def unusual. She is coming in the music room when its above her volume threshold AND shes bringing me beverages unsolicited. back to jamming…
Next she brings a stack of my shirts and sets them in music room( this is not that uncommon, as she normally does the laundry, but again normally not when my music is so loud) Its like shes subconsiously trying to verify where the feeling shes getting is coming from..
I think this was a great setting, from what i know about A1 and positive fallout. So anyways after a bit I ask if she needs anything she says she is waiting for me too eat. Keep in mind this is complete 180 from our crushing argument that morning. We sit have dinner, she is accomodating, happy, flirty.. a good time.. She takes the initiative to get us two pieces of pie and heat them up.( this is unusual for her)
We go lie in bed and watch movie like normal, she is letting me rub all over her, even though shes on her period. She is rubbing her legs all over my legs, unusual. No sex, but thats fine. We were able to have a nice fun caring night during hell week, and get touchy feely.
So this is the next morning, she just left for work. We are united on a higher level. A bond like everythings ok. explicit: Before she leaves she gives me a kiss and I pull out my johnson and say here give this a kiss goodbye. She says fine and leans over and gives it a little peck on the head. This may not sound like much, but she normally would just say no and keep going. I feel like A1 causes the eagerness to please somewhat. Not in a respect type way like a314, but in a husband wife type way.
Definately a winner with this german descent female. I feel like if it werent for her damn Zoloft and accompanying asexuality/apathy, we maybe would have hooked up last night. I have a sneaking suspicion the p83 I have on order will help with that.

Please let me know if this journal format is acceptable. I aim to be a reporting user. Happy mone trails

kidboyo · November 27, 2016, 2:36am

Freakin amazing night! will post tomorow. Some slight bodily depression at 40-45mcg A1. but won against zoloft. Ill post detail.

kidboyo · November 27, 2016, 10:41am

warning-this post includes a mixture of both Androtics and non-Androtics products

Last night I think I discovered my “instant quickie” mix. At least it worked this time. To be fair there were some emotions going on anyways because she was putting up christmas decorations, but this was as soon as i got home haha. She is at the end of her period i found out, so later this week im going to transition back into the 'none realm and save my A1 for when i dilute it into a 25mcg spray with Perfumers Alcohol.

Application: 1 spray a314b to chest, wiping half off and speading on leg. 1 spray ammo world on thighs. 1 spray TUTH above pubic. 1 full drop (40-45mcg) A1 (in dpg oil from LS) on back of neck, rubbed in, with excess wiped on left inner elbow.

Self effects: After application I went out shopping/ running errands until my gf got home from work. I actually had some lightheadedness. Must be the higher dose of A1. After sex, i felt slightly dizzy for a few minutes.. Later in the night after drinking wine i fealt slightly nautieus, got the spins.

Side Note: At Lowes, as soon as i step in line, this 21-22yo cashier looks up, ignoring her customers, an says, “hey you, its been a while” to me. lol this is so bizzar and an obvious ioi as ive only seen this cahier only once before, about 2 weeks ago when i was wearing a314 every day. Def some a314 fallout. Shes very talkative about her day, I only had one item. She says goodbye and hope to see you soon. I get the distinct feeling I could have her if I was single. I didnt get this obvious of hits with attractive females for the past few years before mones.

Effects on others: Instant sex with girlfriend. I got home from errands and my girlfriend had already been home a while, was getting out christmas decorations. I am helping her for few minutes, and i make a joke about how i can fix her one broken ornament, but id like her to go down.(playfully) Well her response was why dont we go have a quickie. Which we proceeded to do. Intimate, slightly authorative from a314. Afterwards, a fun bonding intimate night!

Effects on dogs: Ok Ive already noticed that dogs see me more alpha and follow me more with a314 and tuth. Tonight I saw some other potential affects in dogs. 2 male dogs, both very very docile, calm to the point my girlfriend pointed it out. They were fine, just very relaxed/lazy. I am thinking the A1. Interesting.

Notes: My initial experiences with A1 is that it truly is magic, but there is some slight “Suppressing” effects on me and my male dogs at 40-45mcg. I wouldnt call it deppression. not sad. Just a bodily suppression, a heavy feeling. It was much more bearable the first night with about half the amont A1. The feel of it is bonding, husband and wife feel. The woman is so happy, and you are content. I feel the love from her, she loves me type feel. I personally will save this for the menstral time of month. I look at it as a ongoing learning sex-perience as I transition in and out from A1 to TUTH territory every month, with all the different buffer mones and signatures in between. Life just got a whole lot more interesting. Happy mone trails

justintime469 · November 27, 2016, 11:47am

Wow this is the best start to a journal I have ever seen really great work! I really love your style and layout and am taking notes, I may even use some of your writing style for mine if you don’t mind? I would give you the credit.

You are always more than welcome to check mine out as I think my layout is very similar to yours. If I can help you out in anyway just let me know. I also encourage you to leave feeback in my journal to good and bad. I am totally tuned into this journal and I already see great things here.

kidboyo · November 27, 2016, 12:56pm

Thanks justintime! I am more familiar with your journal than you may realize lol. I definately have your page 33 bookmarked haha. I am just so excited about this whole process of life upgrades, I woke up at 4am and cant go back to sleep..

Conjurator · November 27, 2016, 3:35pm

Wow great start for a journal. I’m definitely tuning in.

Regarding IH self-effects, yes, they can be a b*tch and stab you in the back ^^. It’s best to spray this baby on your hands or wrists and keep it away from your face (hair too is bad). Keeping it down is the best workaround I know of.

The TUTH self-effects will eventually be less vivid over time. I remember feeling like a gorilla on my first uses. I get very few self-effects now.

Dee_A · November 28, 2016, 7:43am

Hi kidboyo!

This is a nice journal. But I have to remind you that reports about products not created by Androtics Pheromone Research / Androtics Direct does not count. It may populate one’s Journal but the management team tasked to review the journals/reports won’t consider it and read it.

So it would be best if you can focus on testing and reporting about your adventures with ADproducts, specially if you aim to be an AD RU.

Your reporting format is all cool.

Happy Pheroing!

justintime469 · November 28, 2016, 11:04am

Yes please do apply for RU, and be very patient as it may take some time. If you need any help with it I will do my best to assist you. Really the key is just to be consistent and keep sending in reports, and the more details the better. Very nice start!

kidboyo · November 28, 2016, 12:43pm

While I do understand that my reporting on A1 pheromone, one of the top human pheromones, will not directly count towards me being a RU, I do feel this information is still useful. The reason I fell in love with this forum is the fact that people report so much info, even combos with other products/brands. I feel my experiences with A1 will not only be valuable for those considering using it, but will also serve as a comparision for my future p96 use when it arrives in the mail.

kidboyo · November 28, 2016, 1:26pm

warning-this post includes a mixture of both Androtics and non-Androtics products

Ok so another great day! It was my girlfriends day off, following the “instant quickie” night. I wake up at 4am and cant sleep, several hours before her.

Note: Since starting mones, she sleeps facing me at night. She has always slept facing away from me at night, always on her left side, we even had agrument in past and she apparently needs that side of bed because she sleeps on her left side, the side she had this blood clot few years back. lol well this last month on mones, everytime i wake up she is on right side facing me with face close to me hahaha. So bizzar how we are effected by pheromones/hormones.

I hope this is ok to report, as it is another combo of AD products with other products. Please let me know if it is ALLOWED to do this. I do not want to disrespect forum rules or anything. I feel this testing, while dirty, will still be useful.

After shower-
Application: Sample product i receieved at LS(A.E.)(0.2mg/ml -none, 0.15mg/ml -nol, 0.1 mg/ml -rone ) to wrists, chest, neck. 1 half drop, maybe 20mcg A1 behind neck. I TUTH, buildiing up to 2 sprays on belly.

Self Effects: happiness, confidence, a good morning. Later at Target, I own the store.

Effects on others: I pick up some breakfast sandwiches and coffee, around 7 I tell my girlfriend when she wants to wake up theres food. Normally would be a grunt, this morning she says “your the bomb baby”. Eventually she wakes, im doing work around the house. We have a morning working around the house and organizing.. loving, kissing. I bring up sexual things alot, but dont push it.

We go to target, and shop for over an hour. I am a sex god among peasants. In my mind, all the women crave me and all the men stay out of my way. I am still respectful of others, just carry myself differently and feel like the man. When im off on my own, I feel like several women are aisle-stalking me. I feel tension from this fine college age woman when my girlfriend meets back up with me. ha. I make a joke about getting on the interstate and getting explicit road head. I knew she wouldnt do that except the wildest of nights, she never even does it on road trips. Well we get to the neighborhood entrance and she says, “ok, ill give you head until we get home”. slowest drive down the neighborhood parkway ever. Keep in mind this is a woman that doesnt do this kind of stuff normally, especially since being prescribed zoloft.

Later, I TUTH with 2 sprays, lots of back and forth, im still not pushing the issue of sex much. We have fun day togethor and eventually I massage her feet and get her to explicit give me first footjob of her life, to completion. I feel she follows me around more with the A1. A love, a desire to be in the same room as me. I didnt even get to jam, she came in my music room, sat down talking to me. ha

Effects on dogs: The dogs didnt seem down today like they did with the full drop (40-45mcg) A1. Also, I didnt feel any A1 suppression.

I will probably continue experimenting with small dose A1, even though my girlfriends off her period. Id like to give it a few more days, as i think im seeing positive fallout already. This will also give me a better baseline to compare p96 to. I am really low on a314 and my order from AD has been pending for a week, due to holiday and custom products. So in meantime i might supplement with some of these novelty LS samples. At least they list the mone content, but are basically just mixes of none, rone, nol. If not valuable to Androtics directly, this research should at least still be a testimony to the effectiveness of the main pheromones in general, while being a basis of comparison for AD products. Happy mone trails!

kidboyo · November 28, 2016, 1:26pm