so i had two shots ammo (one on neck, one between wrists) and one instant shine on neck.
went to this girl’s house after a party with alcohol, we were in her bed making out and i was feeling away (as in, stroking arms, legs, face, ass, fingered her earlier). i was in boxers and she was in undergarments. i unhooked her bra (without looking, let’s go ) and she looked at me and said “i’m not trying to have sex right now”
she’s been with other guys, so it wasn’t like she hasn’t had sex before or was uncomfortable with doing a guy from school, ya know?
from my past experience: you should have built more comfort, if you knew her from class or something. If you met her at the party, and she brought you home, yet you did nothing and stopped, you screwed up. The girl wouldn’t have let you in like that for nothing. Unless she was drunk and suddenly got sober while making out
I remember this girl that I met for the first time… after dinner, I brought her home… later on, she kept saying she won’t have sex with me, because we just met… I didn’t even suggest sex, but hey she brought it up… anyways, I ignored what she said or acted like it didn’t bother me at all and kept on kissing her, and I took off MY CLOTHES. she then touched my u know what and I said, it is my turn and she did you know what. Sometimes, girls say this to not feel blame. In psychology they would call it PROJECTION. Girls like to do that, so later on, they won’t blame themselves and feel like they have no self-esteem… How does this help girls mentally? I don’t know. They are from Venus and we are from Mars… so yea… Anyways, I cannot definitively say what, because I wasn’t there… so yeah, I can’t say for sure… Be more specific. next time, unless she tells you to STOP a couple times, try to keep pushing it. Not too much but gently…
P.s. USE CONDOMS. Dont be a retard and forget that part, okay? If you get an STD, well it could become game over quickly
Also, was she white, latina or Korean like you? Asian girls are less likely to want ONS. It sucks, but oh well…
If those were her exact words, the “right now” implies “maybe later”. At her house, were her parents home, or about to come home? Does she share a bedroom with a sister who might walk in? Or maybe it’s just her time of the month…
Could be she just doesn’t want to have sex with you, but the way you described it there many other possibilities, and she leaves open the possibility of it happening later. You could be lucky in that, by waiting, “buyer’s remorse” or some other awkwardness (that you don’t know about) was avoided. It could be a birth control issue. Maybe she wants to get to know/trust you better, first.
First long before you’re in the seduction phase you have to address her potential objections without addressing them. Women will have one or more of five major objections to having sex for the first time with a man.
STD’s
Pregnancy
Am I just a one nighter he’ll never call again?
Ironically enough there’s also “will he become an obsessed stalker I’ll never be rid of”
and “Will I look like a slut to my social circle or will he brag about making me a notch in his bedpost?”
These should be addressed and dismissed BEFORE sex is even on the table, if you’re already in your underwear ready to go she will assume anything you say is simply to get laid and you are not believable at that point.
Now pregnancy you want to avoid in convo…sorry but smelly diapers and screaming baby images are mood killers of the highest order, simply having a condom ready when the moment arrives should be enough.
Now during the A1 phase you’re creating the frame that she’s attracted to you so good angles are lines like "You ain’t one of those girls that becomes obsessed with guys and starts calling all the time and showing up at odd hours of the night and stuff are you?
By framing it as being something you are concerned about, you make it clear that you wouldn’t be that way yourself.
Likewise by questioning her in a half joking way about “girl talk” where she might tell her girlfriends all the juicy secrets about what she does and with who
Later in A3 when you’re showing her a little interest or even in comfort phase you can make a similar line about her possibly being a love’em and leave’em maneater that leaves a trail of broken hearts in her wake. So you’ve disqualified yourself as a stalker, a heartbreaker and a gossip. Having protection is about all you can do about the other potential objections.
Now that doesn’t guarantee she won’t LMR you, only that you’ve done something to make her feel more secure that if she does decide to have sex with you that there won’t be negative consequences. After that you have to incorporate a sort of “push/pull” game. Be careful with it as it can backfire by destroying buying temperature. Basically when things start getting hot, back off the gas a little and go turn the lights down. or turn some music on (good for both mood and for discretion in masking sounds…helps gain comfort for what’s about to happen) or go get a drink.
Do it a couple of times when things are looking like it’s on, by showing that you’re willing to pull away you display self control AND you create a brief sense of longing, letting her realize that she wants it too. After a couple of times you might start to pull back to go grab a beer from another room and she’ll hold on and stop you from going. She can’t LMR because she’s now the initiator trying to overcome YOUR resistance.
Now the tricky part is timing, you have to do it BEFORE she shows any signs of LMR. If you get up and walk away for ANY reason AFTER she’s said no, wait, not now etc. it doesn’t come off like you’re cool and sex is not a major goal, instead it comes off as a pouty “I’m taking my ball (or balls) and going home” sort of freeze out.
I will tell you the secret. Don’t give lot of importance to what a girl says. Seriously.
If she said she doesn’t want to have sex. Who cares! Think like you have 10 girls back in your bedroom ready to do you anytime.
In your situation - you should have given her an IOD (indicator of disinterest) - after few minutes again try it. Tell then girl you are not interested in sex. After 5 mins go ahead more. If she says no fall back and give her another IOD and then try again. ‘Push and Pull’ as in PUA terms.
I am just telling you from what I have read in PUA books and have tried it two times - I am not very experienced - yet!
I agree with RADMAN - music always helps to bring in the mood and also fill in those empty no words moments.
Also I would say ‘I am going to work/school/meet someone soon’ - so she thinks its over …if she wants a little bit (actually she wants it a lot but without any consequences) she will show more interest.
The best way to PREVENT lmr is to use a reference leech. LMR can’t all ways be prevent though but it is easy to get through.
Most goes when they encounter lmr will be like “come on” or something along those lines to try and convince her to have sex with them. What you should do is seem completely un effected by it. Act like you don’t even care. Get up and go get a drink of water or just lean back and relax or continue doing what you were doing before you guys started getting frisky.
If you have been spitting you’re game right you will plow right through the lmr that way.
okay, not sure how to do the mini-quote box yet, but i’m working on it, sorry
but uh, in reply to CoolKatDC: we’ve been “talking” for a few months and had made out on previous occasions where there was no alcohol. she’s also half black, half white.
in reply to Warren: hadn’t thought about the period part, good call. her grandparents were home, but they were asleep and on the other side of the house. i’m not sure how to describe it, but she’s not that kind of girl to get worried about that cuz of a lot of things, ya know what i’m saying?
in reply to RADMAN, Alphonse, Warped, and chicagobuy: i appreciate the mystery method techniques and advice but uh, my parents have this school-like blocking program on the computer, so i’ve been unable to look them up myself
in reply to chicagobuy: funny story, during this time i was “talking” to this girl, i had three others on hold, per se. they asked when i was going to have sex with them, and i said while i’m “talking” to this other girl. confidence/playing it cool is definitely not my problem not to be cocky though, ya know what i mean?
Thank You to all, i appreciate it but uh, Warren suggested Instant Honesty to prevent LMR, any other pheros?
I suggest p83, p79 with 2x AMMO + 1x IS + 1x IH. The mones alone won’t get you laid. If her grandparents were there, yeah, it probably wasn’t a good time. Next time, go out with her, and afterward, bring her to YOUR PLACE and make sure ur parents aren’t home. You can also invite her out to a movie or something else, and then bring her home, get some drinks and go from there.
Like I said, just because she said No, doesn’t mean she means it. You have to try to find out for sure, before realizing if she is telling the truth or bluffing. Girls do it to save themselves possible guilt, shame or even rejection. Sometimes, they just want to see how you react. They just want to feel safe, comfortable WITHOUT any repercussion.
They have Mystery Method at Borders or other book stores too, so no, you don’t have to just dig it online
Personaly I don’t like Mysterys game. Always seemed like he taught mostly canned routines and I heard about him suggesting using pre-planned canned lines and such multiple times.
I never read the Mystery Method but from talking to others that have the Crash Course (which is free) from The Inner Circle blows it out of the water. It’s best to avoid routines and canned shit honestly.
LMR is fairly easy like I said. Act like it you don’t even care. Just kick back and start talking about something else normally or get up and get a glass or water then come back etc.
) and she looked at me and said “i’m not trying to have sex right now”
