So here is my problem. I have been friends with this girl for several years now, but only within the last few months we have become semi close… she isn’t “easy” but easy enough (she is in to older guys and I am a peer). Since I have been using mones she has become more I guess interested and turned on by me? We only gone out to dinner a few times and get starbucks every other week. I have never been invited into her pad, but I want to literally “Turn Up The Heat” with her (which I do have TUTH). What would the best combo with the best date/scenario will finally break these walls so she will let me in? my AMMO is consists of AMMO, TUTH, IShine, IO, IH, (and togo of all of them + IG). You’re advice would be a life saver haha!
Or if you disprove of her, I got one more lovely lady in one of my classes who has caught my eye, and I have caught her looking at me, (even trying to sit next to me one day). Any way that would be a not awkward way to introduce myself formally after class or something like that. Not trying to hop in bed with her (yet
) but she is really cute and seems like a cool girl to know. Again best combo with the best scenario would be cool too!
Thank you again!
No one has any input? ![]()
My main question are you just trying to get her to sleep with you, or do want a relationship? If this is the fact ask the question is it worth the friendship to take it to the next level?
In my opinion I would go after the second girl no sexual relationship is worth a risking a friendship.
I would probably go with some ammo I don’t know how old you are so it is hard to tell you an exact amount, but here is what I would do.
1-2 ammo+ 1-3 sprays IO + 2-4 sprays of IS. I would start at the low end of the scale because when you combine products you usually need less of each product to make an effective mix.
I would advise to find your sweet spot for each product before you start combining products.
If you do take it to the next level please be aware of what might happen
I like Instant Honesty in these situations, you can try AMMO IS IH, or TUTH under your shirt, and buffered with IH and IS.
Like SM said, you gotta outline what you want
If its LTR, then grab you some A314
I am 20yrs old to begin, the other first girl unfortunately really isnt worth keeping around, not to be mean or anything but she hasn’t been the best friend, and I know she wants it, and I know I want it so whatever happens happens afterwards haha. The 2nd girl however I could def invest in a LTR, BUT I don’t know her yet
so it it honestly hard to judge at this second. I would like to go up to her after class and give her a nice comment, or ask to do a project with her, go get coffee when our day is done or something like that. Hell even try to sit next to her if possible. I have NEVER gone out of my personal comfort zone like this in is scenario so whatever would make it less awkward and almost attractive to her would be awesome, trying to win her, not scare her off lol!
Thanks again for your input, it helps!
OK I REALLY should stop throwing advice in that has nothing to do with mones lol.
This statement “If we disapprove of her?” dude as far as you’re concerned we’re a bunch of nameless, faceless strangers from around the country and the world. Advice is a good thing to look for, approval is not. Now my actual opinion on this is that I don’t approve. Not because of the girl, but because of the opinion you seem to hold towards her.
I mean really…not easy but easy enough? A couple of things to consider is that if she really was easy enough you would have been with her already. When a guy says something like that what it really means is that she seems to be easy to other guys but not him, and of course displacement and holding a low opinion of her for sleeping with somebody is easier than looking in the mirror and wondering why you aren’t that guy.
Secondly, and maybe this is more because of my age…but I don’t classify women as “easy”. At 38 I’m looking for something serious and long term, I’m not attached to that to the point where I immediately start wondering what our kids will look like. But, I do disqualify any woman the moment I see that there is NO potential whatsoever. I like sex and I expect it in a relationship, but I’m not so needy of it that I’ll lower my standards and try to seduce a woman I already have a low opinion of. It’s cruel to the woman, and insulting to me. My dick is far to valuable to be sticking into “easy” women that aren’t worth my time.
Pickup 101 says that during the A3 phase (male to female attraction) you want to convince the woman that you’re starting to become interested in her for reasons other than her looks and sexual value. While I endorse the M3 model I have some addendum’s I incorporate to shake the “fake” stigma attached to it. One of these is for the guy to ACTUALLY be interested in something other than her looks and sexual value. I know girls that are 9’s and I wouldn’t fuck them with someone elses dick. Either because I question their moral fiber, or intelligence or some other reason that makes their attractiveness irrelevant to me.
Oddly enough your interest in her for purely sexual reason will most likely be your biggest stumbling block. Women can sense it. TuTH would amplify it and you’ll come off as obvious as if you were erect and pantsless. She doesn’t have to work for your approval or interest…seems like she already got it by choosing the right parents to ensure she was born pretty. She doesn’t have to be smart, or funny, interesting or even have impressive morals or ethics…and I’m willing to bet that if you could make a wish to a genie you’d have slept with far more women by now than whatever number of men she’s been with, which beggars the question “who’s the one that’s easy?”
Given the age, IG, IH And Shine would all be good products.
You want to really impress her though, try this.
Make a list of all the qualities (other than looks) that your perfect woman would have. Break them down to which ones are “must have” dealbreakers and which ones are optional and while it’d be bonus points if she had those qualities, it’s not a cast in stone rule. You should be able to come up with a fair mix of qualities that should give you an idea of what you will and will not settle for. And then disqualify any woman that doesn’t measure up…no matter how physically hot she is.
You’ll find that having standards impresses women more than most things you probably think of. And you may even find that some women will be so attracted they’ll actually try to live up to your standards. But for the love of God stop “needing” pussy so much that you’d fuck a woman you don’t even seem to like all that much.
Honestly Radman beat me to the punch: the first thing that jumps off the screen and landed in my lap was your statement about “our approval,” that really raise an eyebrow.
Don’t allow your unmet needs to drive you to wrong women and stay true to yourself no matter how difficult things may appear. Realize that needs are so powerful they will drive a person to the darnest things, even things they shouldn’t do.
For your first date try: Instant Gentleman , Instant Shine, IH (Instant Honesty – Deep Relational Communication Pheromone – You Won’t Believe Your Ears! - Alpha A314)
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Radman for Guru of the year. That comes with a $100 GC rad because you are an amazing kind, generous person always willing to help ![]()
I’m gonna leave what’s been said and touch on something else.
While I do appreciate the power of pheromones, I believe that they are completely unnecessary and are used by some as a crutch. Am I saying this is you? No, I am not making any accusations. But I will say that your behavior needs changing to escalate the situation. Pheromones or not, I have never seen a situation change from ‘just friends’ without a shift in behavior. This comes down to how well you know her and what you perceive that will get you past the friend zone. This can be anything from simply telling her, to a surprise kiss, to putting your hands in her pants (not really recommended, but funny story there), it depends on her. Then again, if she just doesn’t see you in that light it may never work. But I would turn to my own actions any day before hoping that androtics will do any of the work for me.
I really hope that people read this particular section over and over and over. We give women too much power. Seriously!! The moment you “need” or even want something that someone else has you have a problem. Quit giving up your power. If you don’t like a girl or look down on her, what’s the point of getting her? Where is the fun in that? Be a man! Go for the challenge. Find the best looking most interesting girl you can find, and then make her beg to be with you. That’s something worth posting about.
BTW Radman is brilliant. He plays the game well, because he realizes that it’s only a part of his life. Maybe that comes with experience. I don’t know.
Radman Thanks, lol I feel embarrassed for this post.. But good stuff. I am trying to rework my life. I wasnt happy with it, so I am trying to make changes. mones are apart of this change, giving me the psychological confidence I need that gives me the edge. Being with someone for 4 years (my entire dating career) for literally fucked me over has really disabled me from gaining the experience in life that I wish I have earned. So trying to move on, I want new experiences, new confidence, new outlook. I throughly appreciate your advice though. As a community all linked together by a common factor, I do respect all of your opinions. Since I am fairly new to this, I wish not to bring a bad name us. I hate when people make a good thing look bad or give it a poor reputation because of selfish ambition or misuse. I want to be good… the best at what I do, and know what I am doing and how I am using it for more appropriate reasons! So thank you again ![]()
Dude that’s about the most sensible and respectful reply I’ve read from a new poster in quite a while. So how about this, tell us what kind of work you do, what the logistics (your personal situation) as far as what kind of social circle you have and what some of your long term goals are. And we can give you some advice on what products can help you get there and what some things are you can do to get the most from them.