I just stumbled across this site tonight…I have never used any mones in my life. I’ve only recently heard about them from this site and a few others. I live in Phoenix, AZ and would like to try these products for a particular situation in my life.
Ok so I’ve known this chick for 2.5 years and she is beyond my best friend. Not a friend zone type of thing if that’s what you’re thinking. I know anything and everything about her and love her for real. Although she is very attractive, its not one of those infatuation things at all. She loves me too, but seems to show it most with everyday actions and trust. Every time things start to get a little romantic she feels like she has to put a stop to it because she can’t think of me like that. We’ve talked about this a lot and although she admits that she loves me, she keeps saying she’s not ready. She also has commitment issues. I KNOW that as soon as the physical aspect of the realationship happens we’ll break the barrier and never look back, but I just need some help to get to that point. It kills me to see other douche bags hit on her and get at least somewhat of a response although she never gets with any of them. Its like I am always in the back of her mind.
Really weird situation I know. A hell of a lot different than all the other women I’ve got with just because they were hot…But can these products help me out at all with the physical aspect? If so which ones? Again, I adore this girl and am not looking for something to just get in her pants. I need something to further our relationship…?
That is a tough situation my friend. Welcome to the forum though.
You may want to try some ammo to further the attraction she has for you. But I would definitely get instant honesty and instant openness. Those two will help with the bonding between the relationship and create a higher trust factor. Her commitment problem may very well be along the lines of trust. I might even try some instant gentlemen as well. Just remember though, pheromones will not help you all the way. Part of that job is on the user.
Wow man that’s a weird relationship… I’ve had a similar thing in the past… she’s not by chance model hot and named JOanna is she? lol… seriously… she’ll end up leaving with your money… ahem.. anyways I would say that to get her feeling more comfortable with you is the first step… mentally and physically… for this i would use IH and IShine. IH makes her fel comfortable and sometimes chatty, this one has been shown to deepen relationships. IShine is great because it just makes everyone feel good and gives off a youthful and fun vibe. Also a great thing to add would be Ammo. This is a sexual attractant, but also has social mones in it to make it not TOO strong… this is so that it wont scare her away, but also so you can wear it most places. The fact that you’re both so tight already and talking about romantic feelings is good… I would keep doing what you’re doing, maybe push a little harder… not for sex at first per se, but just for fa more intimate relationship to start…
whatever happens LET US KNOW HOW THINGS GO… and the first time you try this stuff you’ll most likely use too much (pherobomb) so just put it on an hour before you plan on seeing her…
Let us know how things go and good luck!!!
Do you know if she’s into ‘alpha male’ type men too? A314 is by far my favorite on here as it raises your status, makes you feel like a king, and for me gives me a bit more energy and pep… people that have known you for a while will be like wtf?! and people that don’t know you will end up getting out of your way and treating you better sometimes… Over time this one can permanently raise your confidence as well. just a thought… not sure if it would fit into your situation or not
Yeah definitely, I am a little like that already. Not overbearing though. Thanks I will try this too it seems like it would help me out. I know this is probably a dumb question, but are these to be used simultaneously? Or are they used independently of eachother?
Sounds like she already sees you as having value and A314 would enhance that.
It sounds like there’s already trust and connection and Instant Honesty would enhance that.
What it sounds like is lacking is pure sexual attraction, Now I’d advise getting full sized bottles of the above two products, and even a full size of Ammo. But I actually think that whatever mix you try a SMALL dash of Turn Up the Heat would be in order. Just one spray, and never as a stand alone. You want to enhance all the positives that she already knows are there but communicate that you are a sexual being. She doesn’t see you in that way and you want her to start seeing that side of you.
So a little dash of TuTH should be fine mixed with two drops of A314 and one or two sprays of Instant Honesty.
Now for the actual hard part. You have to do a few things that might seem counter intuitive. Right now the situation is set up so that she knows too much already. There’s no intrigue and no risk of losing you to another girl so therefor no reason for her to “shit or get off the pot”
You must communicate that you are a sexual man…flirt, make a little comment with some light innuendo here and there. Normally I advise against communicating interest but it’s already known so now you have to work within that reality. A sexual but tasteful comment about her figure now and then would be in order as well. Nothing lewd mind you. Just don’t be too “hearts and flowers”
Communicate that you have options and won’t wait forever…that means showing that you find other women attractive as well. Even to the point of meeting new women, and being flirty with them. Faced with the reality that what she won’t act on may be taken up by somebody else should help her to make up her mind.
Be unavailable, busy your social life a bit more, especially with women…even if they’re just friends. Calling you and hearing a female voice in the background or being told that it’s not a good time and you asking if you can get back to her later should help her to see that waiting indefinitely is not an option anymore.
The mones mix would ramp up all the positives she already see’s in you and add a few that she hasn’t considered yet. Throw in the risk of you becoming some other girls prince charming and you should find her attitude toward you changing.
Again, I would go with the Ammo/IH/IO and maybe TUTH choices. Possibly supported by a disinhibitor/space reducer like P83? or even a P83/P74 combo.
Radman’s advice is also very pertinent. You are also going to have to change you behaviour around her a good bit and stand up more for what you want from this relationship - And that does include being a bit less available to her and taking the risk of appearing that you are ready to move-on.
I was reading a post today about A314 and it’s interesting that most persons mistakenly think it can only be used in only work situations and over look or are not sure they can use it for sexual attraction.
Radman gave some great suggestions as he did in the post I was reading this morning.
Be careful not to venture into the experimones because these are for advanced users and you don’t want to buy something you are not ready to use and not get results and then find out after calling or emailing it’s non refundable. I am trying to protect you.
I am female yes but this girl needs to know what time it is. I don’t want to sound all ruthless but I have seen many friends (male) get played by girls to know there is much evil within even us females.
She could love you in a friendly way or love you meaning I want to be with you. If she wants to be with you nothing will stop her not even another woman and so she is not being 100 % straight up with how she feels.
I would recommend IJ for her to realize you are a sexual being and that she can keep that kind of satisfaction from you as well as a good friend. I will use the men’s section to get even more insight and do some research before you decide how to work this angel and what product to use.
You have received great pheromone advice from the members so I have nothing much to add to that but I do want to urge you to take what Rad said into consideration…
I dont want to sound harsh but right now your playing the role of “back up boy”. I am sure she loves you but she knows you so well she knows you will wait in the wings just in case she doesn’t find someone more intriguing. Best way to grab her attention is to knock her off her pedestal and start flirting with other women. There is no guarantee she will come after you but 9 out of 10 times in this type situation they do.
I do highly suggest A314 to up your status to give her the direct signal your not her boy toy but a man to be reckoned with. A bit of TUTH and Ishine will help light that sexual fire but as Rad mentioned you need to start sending some sexual signals of your own as well.
