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Hey,

Just registered after reading the site for a while and I am getting mixed signals and reviews and what not.

short story first.

Im a 22 year old male, 5’7" India/White skin complexion and a bit bigger. I have been told i carry my weight well though, i don’t agree but, yea. i have a shaved head both ears pierced and a goatee. I dress ok, bright colors and polos.

I feel that no one wants me around. If I am with a group of people, that i had just met with a friend it is always a number exchanging but no one ever asks for mine. I feel that i am putting off a negative vibe, or that people look at me and feel threatened. I find it really hard to make friends but whilst at work (bestbuy) i never have problems approaching customers. But here at school its a 180 turn and i’m no one. I go out to the bar scene and drink a bit but can never get anyone to dnce with. I’m not looking for any sex, but i do like to feel wanted.

all this aside, i have a banging hot girlfriend love her greatly, but she is 3 hours away from me in school too.

anyone have any reccomendations. life or phero related would be great.

Theo

22 yr old male in West WI / IA for school.
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just keep reading around about the infamous shine, and cttm2.
They work even with both hands tied around your back.
The first impression is how you look, and then how you smell..

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pertaining to the “look” what do you recommend? i have tried dieting to no avail and exercise for a bit and it helps but then i get behind in school work and can’t keep up with it. Can you see why people feel intimidated by me?? or is it just me.

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In my experience, your look has nothing to do with whether or not people will want to be around you.

Be happy, cheery, shit even witty and it will breed you some attention. Be interesting to others. When you meet people, do you have a story to tell them? Something to contribute? My advice would be to try what I’m trying: get active and get out, even on your own.

I’m really new here, but from what I’ve been reading and experiencing, these pheromones will NOT create what isn’t there. It enhances what is there, depending on how you use the products.

So that being said, I would hate to see you become disappointed in buying something and it turning out to be snake oil. Try some of the ice breaker products out here, but you’ll have to adjust yourself too.

Go get a new haircut, or highlights. Buy some new clothes you normally wouldn’t wear. Pick up a social hobby like adult softball or volleyball. Relax, let yourself out of the box and have some fun.

Oh, and don’t be so available for friendship. having a good guy as a friend is a rare valuable thing; make people earn it. You deserve that. If you act like you need to be their friend, it’ll be a turn-off.

“Desperation is a stinky cologne, John.”
-Supertroopers

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@ wilks, the new haircut thing. no go. as in no hair…:stuck_out_tongue: i believe that i am trying, if it is hard enough, idk, but i play rugby on the school team and do go out. but the thing is, is i rarely have something interesting to say, because what i find interesting i don’t think the general public will. im almost a classified nerd, minus the glasses and outfit, favorite website is engadget (dawt) com, and ign…

thanks for the replies guys!!!

that probably scares me the most, what if it backfires?? i am then stuck with no one.

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that probably scares me the most, what if it backfires?? i am then stuck with no one.

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I hear you. I’m a big nerd. I work with cisco networking equipment all day. I watch Sunday night cartoons and I play video games at 28.

I think I see some of what your problem is. A certain level of interest doesn’t come from the subject matter, but how YOU present it. Anything can be interesting (or boring) depending on who’s doing the talking. Case in point, you probably had some awesome teachers and some terrible ones that made/broke the class.

Don’t be so scared of being alone. That’s your first problem is you’re validating who you are and your self worth based on who’s around you. That’s a lesson only you can learn on your own. Figure out what you like about yourself and add more too it. Get excited about you and you’ll be exciting to someone. (You’ll be a muse; an inspiration for others. It’s very catchy.)

And if they’re that boring and shallow to where they don’t find you interesting, screw them. :slight_smile:

You’ll be ok. Just take baby steps and make adjustments.

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if i could figure out the reps thing. id give em to you. thanks for the words of advice, now… i guess the next q is what can i do for a confidence boost, to get the ball rolling??? the CTTM 2?? and at one point i’d like to try the tuth at the club, for fun…

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confidence boost: well, here’s what I did.

study study study. I tried to read as much as I could about the products, what they did and who had what experiences. I started to form ideas on how it would suit me best with my personality type and it became sort of a hobby.

When I went out to meet girls, I felt like I had some armor on with what I was wearing. If I failed, I must have done something wrong with the product. (In my head, it wasn’t me screwing up if I couldn’t get a girl to get interested.) It gave me a level of comfort. Mix that with the next point:

Study the art of flirting and saying hi to girls. Most guys fail because they go up to a girl and say “Hi my name is …I think you’re pretty.” ERRRRRP! WRONG! That puts you in “average joe” category which is boring. Study the scene , look for things to talk about (little things of no importance) wait for your chance to introduce an icebreaker in a nonconfrontational “warm” way, then remove the target from your attention. Make them want to be near YOU.

I went to a concert a few weeks ago, saw a girl make eye contact a bit too long. I went down the hill to go find her a bit later, but instead of approaching her, I stood about 10-15 feet away and pretended to ignore her. I studied a bit looking for an opener. She was wearing galoshes: there’s my neg. Now I need a way to say hi.

Bam. She moved to start dancing in the isle right next to me but behind me some. I turned over my shoulder, not facing her directly, smiled and said, “I wouldn’t stand there.”

Her: “Why not?” <her subconscious is saying, this guy is talking to me, but I have no idea what he wants. Better find out>
Me: “Because you’ll get knocked over.” and I turned away again.
Her: “I’ll be fine.” and she starts to dance again. <subconscious: who the hell does that guy think he is? is he a know it all? an ass? he can’t possibly know more than me…>

Sure enough, some drunk lady came barrelling down the isle way (downhill) and slammed into the back of her. I caught her and held her up a bit, smiled warmly and said “See? You ok? Why don’t you stand over here by me <out of the isleway.”
Then I stopped paying attention to her again.

<subconscious: “who IS this guy?”>
I caught her looking over at me, so I went in for the neg. Looking at her rainboots, I pointed, smiled and said with a grin “Was it suppsed to rain today?” (clear sky at the time.)

She gets smart and responds: “Actually, it IS!” she snipes.

I smile again: “So I guess your dad is a weatherman?”

She smiles back and laughs. <Subconscious: Ok, this guy might be worth something. Girl defense wall is down. He’s ok.>

Me: “Hi, my name is xxx”
Her: “I’m Heidi.”

We talked for the rest of the concert, sealing the deal with a number exchange and a text from her that night.

Be elusive, be somewhat “sassy,” be charming. The same set of rules applies to making friends as it does to picking up potential dates. there’s a “feeling each other out” period where you can’t disclose too much about yoruself. I compare it to 2 dogs sniffing each other before they decide they like each other.

Success breeds confidence which breeds more success. I’ve gotten 4 numbers off 3 tries so far. 2 dates. 5 makeouts with 2 girls. I’m having a blast. If you can master talking to girls, guys will be drawn to you. They’ll see you as a leader and source. My buddies are wanting to hang out with me more because I’m having the courage to approach girls on my own and give them something to talk about the next day.

I have a date with the last makeout girl, and she left clawmarks on my back from a public kissing session. I’m proudest of that one, I’ve been spewing it all over this board.
“I think she likes me man.”
“How can you tell?”
“Wanna see the claw marks on my back?”

Make a wild story like that for yourself, and the general public WILL find it interesting, I promise. :smiley:

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The big thing to do is to remember to smile a lot and be friendly.

The fine art of friendly flirting as mentioned by Wilks is also a must. I have posted here before about that. He gives some good situational examples: look at what she is doind, wearing, etc. and make a helpful, friendly, joking comment to start a conversation.

As far as pheros go - if you have a slightly intimidating look go heavy with the social products: Instant Shine, IO, IH or CTTM2.

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Yup people like people who make them happy,
I agree with bosshank, I might also suggest Turn Up The Heat for when you get a chance to meet up with your girl. :smiley:
Instant Shine- good quick pickme up happy feeling, for you and those around you.
Instant Openness - increases talking
Instant Honesty - increases deeper conversations
(both the above are good combined)
Come Talk To Me Mix 2 - people talk to you, some say it is like IO and IH combined, but it is slightly different effect, people talk.

Another to experiment with would be IG.

I would suggest laying low on the -none products in public, as they can create more distance. (A314 and Ammo)

As you mature in the pheromone world, TAA and P74 are good ones to play with as well.

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you guys are the bestest. but from the hear of it:

I need to start trying on my own, but a boost from some CTTM isn’t going to do any harm. if anything it will help. also the art of flirting. i feel on my game some nights and some not.

ex. small break from the girlfriend (long story) and i went to the club. started dancing like no one was watching and was having fun for myself. then i walk up to vip where there are 3 girls that are trying to take a picture ot themselfvs for her b-day. so i stop look at them and shake my head. flat out obviously. they look and say what, i just tell them “look here, either you can take that picture or i can, you take it you probably will be cutting her head off, i take it, its sexy its wht you want and its done” they start giggling and try to intro themselves, i brush it off to god timing and take the pic. 5 min later they were on the Dancefloor so i went down there to continue enjoying myself.

The hot blonde, 20 years old comes up to me, only thing i am thinking is shit, she caught me looking.

nope she wants to dance. sweeeet. i get up and say i dont get it. so she “shows me how”

the night continued and the other three wanted dances, so i did and basically, it would have been great, they invited my to anther club with them and my friend i was with, told me we were going to the gay bar to try to cinvert this girl. so i had to say no. i was pissed.

i have NEVER been able to reproduce that night though. i go to the club in vip and i get no attention.

so i think my natural phero’s were working but i broke them :slight_smile:

loong ass story. wow.

long story short, im gonna buy some CTTM mx2 and some a314 i think(for around work) and some TUTH. does this sound rihgt?

what i get is:

CTTM is going to help me and people around me open up a bit, the sig that i am friendly and mean no harm to nyone, maybe actually getting people to not try to get away when i come close. also it will help me feel more “wantd” opening p the real me.

A314 is going to be im the man sig, alomst a alpha male sig. im good game kinda stuff

TUTH is going to do what it is intended to. seal the deal.

again thanks guys for all the help!

-theo

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Um…I’m having a rough time getting A314 down. I would switch it to Ammo, based on what I’ve seen Tisha recommend. (At least for your first order.)

CTTM II may be on my next order, I’m intrigued by that one.

You might like Instant Honesty, though I’m having a tough time finding hits with it.

Another note, I have yet to order a product without an added neroli fragrance when the option was there. I suggest you do the same. Some pheros apparently smell awful without something with it.

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can’t i use a reaction by RL? for cover?? so i think i’m going to get first a togo of ammo, a togo of IShine, and a togo of Instant Female Magic.

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order is done!!! should be here overnight (after tomorrow) is that right!!! fast shipping… wow. i get to pimp fast.

Ordered

all togo’s

AMMO
IShine
IFM

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if you’re in the US, then possibly yeah. They’ve been great for my 2 orders in fulfilling them the next day, but it’s not a sure thing. I’ve actually never used the 3 you ordered. Let us know how it turns out. Be warned, I’ve read that instant shine wears off quickly (an hour or so) so you may need to reapply that more often.

Ammo can build up, so do some reading before you determine when you should re-apply that one.

Welcome to the club.

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Ok first, read our lovely moderator Tishas post: What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers My other advice (which I am following myself…yea I practice what I preach lol) is to google “Double your Dating” and invest in some of the socialization courses there. I am currently working with Deep Inner Game and the Body Language course is on the way as well. The course are pricey but worth the investment. Although I don’t look at all like you physically, I have been told that I am occasionally “scary (I hate when people say that)”. Personality is everything and pheromones enhance.

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Did you get your order yet? How’s it going?

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not yet, its comming today though!!