As I continue my research on this ever expansive (hello! can anyone say Amazing!!!) site, I realized that I can really use pheros to settle down some of the men I work around. In my sector of finance, the more brilliant the more (as in waaaaaay more) bi-polar they are. Truly, clinically bi-polar, and they are required to adhere to strenuous travel schedules along with a great deal of inconsistency when it comes to office hours- there are a lot of fires to put out after 5pm and before 9pm.
I know all of this because I deal with it too but from a different vantage point. My husband is in the same industry and he is admittedly a HUGE grouch without sleep and under intense deadlines. That’s the combo that seems to make all of these guys snappy and beserk LOL … And the way they get with each other- that is the worst part. With me it’s more that I am an innocent bystander but a couple guys in particular really ruin the environment for me no matter how zen I remain.
So my question essentially is, as I am about to make my first purchase: Instant Shine, IS/a, IS/b, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty… what are the recommended sprays, application tips per need ? And exactly what should I be going for?
I don’t need them in a Spaceland like daze or anything close to that as they have to be productive and fast on it. When I first came on my primary goal was authority and respect @ work, now it’s that plus a good mood that is resilient to stressors.
I’m not worried about the women too much as I am pretty much around men 90% of the time.
I don’t know WHY they say women are the ones who get “emotional”! They do but in a much different way. Anyhow- what should I get to best achieve my utopian goal ? Are there men’s products I should be wearing- I’ve read a little about this but unsure if it would be appropriate here.
I have used IS/B (1 spray), MX135 (2-3 sprays), and cops (2 drops) around my boss who can be really rigid at times and it seemed to losen him up. He is always playful and seems to be in a good mood when I wear this combo to work.
I am going out on a limb here, but I am finding MX138 to have some calming qualities. It seems to be a happy, calming sort of mix. I have not put my finger on its range at this point, but at 2-3 sprays it chills me out a bit, and did the same for my x while I was wearing it. I thought it was going to be a social, laughy sort of mix, but what I am finding is that it is a sit back and enjoy time sort of thing.
It may have a little bit of -none in it, but if you are wearing it with some of your female products it may balance it out. Maybe it will help?
Well let me get to ordering and let the experimenting begin! It would be my pleasure to report back on results as soon as I possibly can. I was also wondering if I was going to be allowed to order the mixes and/or putatives right off the bat. Tisha had recommended MX300 I believe in reply to my intro when I was seeking “Authorit-ay” lol, but the site seems pretty specific that first time users can’t have access to these products? Also, do they mean first time to Androtics or to phero’s in general? Because I’ve been ordering from LS for two plus years- just always the PCC, SoE, EofW and Liquid Trust. So nothing even close to the very cool possibilities and education to be had here. So what this means I do not know… perhaps I will attempt to order and if it is not permitted then I’ll work with the other great products. It seems like I NEED IS/a AND b MORE than I need air right now.
Hmmm…Pheros as a tax write off !?
Lor! I am still laughing; you have me thinking that you have a magic phero ball and can see me NOT paying mind to how many sprays of how much xyz product I’m using (horrible I know, but that was pre-forum lol)!!! I have already committed to changing the whole routine (or lack thereof) for using, experimenting, journaling, and pretty much basically everything I ever used to do once my order comes… but your reminder just drove the importance home that much more. This IS a real science (mixed with social science)! Intuition alone will not yield the desired results. I will keep track in exactly the way outlined (I also read the sticky on application tips etc) and let you know how it goes! Thank You Lor for taking the time out.. I know your specific advice is in very high demand! : )
There is nothing that will prevent you from using any of the MX-series. But just keep in mind that all the formulations with the MX in front of them are experimental test mixes that may eventually end up as consumer products. They are made available for testing and (hopefully) reporting so that Androtics can get a basis for their effects. Some of the MX’s have produced very exciting, yet wholly unexpected, results.
MX300 was a release of MX134 with with a different scent package. If you do a post search of the forum you will see that MX134 is a women’s formulation based on the men’s A314, minus Androtenone and with the addition of one of the stronger female pheromones. It was designed for respect and cooperation. It hasn’t been confirmed, but some of us suspect that it contains Androsterone, the male respect and trust pheromone.
If you are looking for respect and trust, MX300 is a way to go, although I would also recommend the addition of P93 to that because it seems to recruit others to your vision and drive… so that it also adds a bit to the leadership profile.
If you are looking to rather calm down the boys so that there is not so much mayhem, there are a lot of options. MX274 and P74 are both great harmonizers that tend to quiet down irritation. Instant Honesty and Openness are good also, but you will get a bit more talky, talky with them.
The only molecule that comes directly to mind that I’ve played with that I would consider to be “Instant Harmony” is P91, but be aware that it has a ton of hippy vibe to it and some people find even a small exposure to it to be overwhelming.
Both P102 and P103 are calming and harmonizing, but they are strong and need to be used in very small doses until you get a feel for them. At higher doses they can be sedating.
Whatever you decide to test, please do report your results.
Hi Diane! Thanks for the awesome knowledge of putatives and MXs. I have never come across such detailed yet clear and to the point descriptions about most of those particular ones… and it is EXACTLY what I had in mind in my phero dreams! Hit the nail on the head! How exciting! Hippy Vibes ? Genius!
I have read many of your informative posts and replies re: other subjects. You masters sure do jump in to help all us newbies pretty fast! Much Obliged Diane! : )
So what I decided to do since the delivery period for Experimones etc is up to a week before they ship out. As I am going to a very big work related wedding out of state in a few days( and from there a few other out of state work events) I went with all the Instant products in stock Female Magic woulda been all for me anyhow and it’s probably for the best it’s out if there is even a slight chance it could bring one of these blokes down LOL I have heard of the Instant products shipping out within a day even and I am in Cali so that’s the line of thinking I’m going for and then in a couple weeks I can probably order the rest of the items for the arsenal. Until then I can just Instant Shine everyone no ??? haha
I am a little nervous about the Instant Honesty and Openness as you mentioned because everyone in my family is quite outgoing enough especially with me, including my brilliant life loving little ones. My friends are the same- who wants to be around boring people with nothing stimulating for the mind to offer!?! Yes, I WILL be reporting on them too LOL Hopefully the chattiness amplification doesn’t last too too long! I DO have twin sisters going through the tween stage of barely say anything, then say a bunch of things relevant before anyone can blink and then bam! back to silent mode with us adults. Hmmm..
I also grabbed TUTH, Instant Gentleman and A314 for the Husband (and possibly me??? I see that some use for self effects). 1. So we can play! and 2. Because we work together sometimes and our working groups overlap so we catch tail-ends of the same situations sometimes at work. He is ALL Leo.. but aware of that fact which does make a difference in the ego dept. We laugh at many of the things he did 10-12 yrs ago, that is for sure! He is super social and ambitious in the work place at the same time so seeing his reaction to ANY of the male pheros should they do as they say with him, let’s just say I am looking forward to it! I pre-warned him about needing to “spray (him) with mood altering test molecules/yes don’t worry it’s perfectly safe”. Since I am around him most of the day I will see what I observe and I have also told him to let me know of he notices a change in reaction from people or anything that seems different but didn’t get detailed yet. I kinda want to see what happens organically first and this would be the chance! : )