First pheromones for a 23-year-old guy: what to use at clubs and parties?

I’m a 23yo male with bloodtype O. I’ve never used any pheromone products before so I’m not really sure what to choose. I just found this site today actually.

What is it you’d like to accomplish with pheromone usage? Also, be sure to post an intro thread in the Introductions forums, and read all the sticky posts above. Lots of good info, especially in the Phero Newbie Bootcamp and Snook’s Big Book for Rookies.

-D4

I would need something at clubs/private parties to attract girls.

Hmm… Instant Openness for chattiness. Ammo for a fun, sexual vibe. Instant Shine for the feel-good vibe to yourself and those around you.

Just remember that pheromones are seasoning to your own personality. They’re not magic potions. Make sure your attitude, demeanor, and behavior all have the same attributes as the mones you’re wearing. Be chatty and engage people in conversations while wearing the Instant Openness. It’ll enhance a sense of comfort with those around you and get them talking. Ammo can sort of ride that wave by giving off the sexual vibe of it’s androstenone base. When wearing Instant Shine, be “shiney” or radiant. Act like you’re having the best party in the world inside your head and everyone’s invited.

But let me restate that the information contained in the sticky posts above are invaluable to those starting out.

-D4

you gotta remember that phero’s arn’t magic potions (but damn i sure wish they were…lol). If you get one thing from this forum, its that you HAVE TO HAVE some game to attract women in the first place. Phero’s just make it a little bit easier. What i’m saying is that if women are attracted to you, its cuz of who you are and not what the phero’s do.

With that being said, i’d recommend Ammo. When i’ve used it (in combination with instant shine), I’ve noticed that girls make longer more sincere eye contact. I’m eagerly awaiting my second order of stuff to get here so that i can go and test some more.

I’d also like to say that you should really go through and read a bunch of threads from back in the day. It will really get you up to speed on what certain phero’s do, and how you can use certain ones for certain situations.

best of luck for your future phero-endeavors!!

I’d recomend not starting off with ammo, which will be contrary to many peoples ideas.

i’m 23 and blood type O as well. 1 spray of ammo makes people avoid me. My natural levels are to high to wear any additional, and yours are probably the same unless you are asian.

Try the chemical romance package combined with some instant openness.

MX148-152 Chemical Romance Test Pack :: Experimental Test Mixes :: Androtics Direct/SmartMones

“Instant Openness” Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men :: Spray Pheromones :: Androtics Direct/SmartMones (Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314)

I’ve had good results with mx 149 and mx 151 out of that set.

It gives more of a sexy dominance than an “I’m out to get some and you look rather good”

Instant shine is also a great idea

I’ve been reading some posts now and I would say that IS or IO might be better for me. I’m caucasian so ammo might not be the best choice for me right now.

I dont think newbies are allowed to order experimental pheremones anymore without Jasmins authorization. Just in case, you should make some more mainstream recommendations.

Agreed. And for that matter, c3d, your best bet may be to just review the product descriptions for the Instant line of products. They’re the mainstream pheromone product that Androtics sells. Still doesn’t hurt to get some ejumacation from the forums in the meantime.

-D4

What a rip! lol Last I knew it was just ill advised.

I think you have a solid ground for this one. Plus it’s been tested loads. It’s just a314 variants made to be more sexual and social as opposed to business oriented.

Hit up Steveo on this one. He’s a mod now, and I think I saw some customer service thing in his signiture.

I share the opinion of the guys that already answered. I just love Instant Shine and Instant Openess. I think that are both worth a try as a beginning.

Ciao
Franz

I’ve been meaning to comment on this, and before I do, it’s nothing against Androtics or JazzyPoo.

This is America, and if I could buy what I wanted, I wouldn’t purchase anything. As for the unexperienced that really wants to purchase something outside of the main line, if that’s what they want to purchase, they should have every right to; ANNNND they could put something like, “NO RETURNS ON PUTATIVES FOR NEWBEES.”

Yes, I understand that it’s for their own benefit, and with that being said, I’ll say this … Stop smoking and drinking beer, eating fried food, chasing more than one woman or man … it’s not good for you. :roll_eyes:

I may not have much experience myself, but stuff like Instant Openness and Instant Shine are pretty easy to evaluate, and serve as a great jumping ground.

I’m pretty sure most of the MX’s and P’s don’t carry the same money back policy as the Smartmones line.

That’s totaly understandable, but it’s not so much “for their own benefit” as you think. I remeber Jasmin talking about people ordering the putative and the experimone series in in proper dosages. They would get their product and nothing would work. Some of those experimones and putatives need very high dosages. P79 for example works best in the 30-50 mcg range. If you were new and though…OH I can get an entire bottle of gold for 15 buck!!! YAY, you would be very disspaointed and perhaps not order again. In a way it helps to increase return business by not selling such pheromones to unexperienced users because they get a solid understanding of proven working pheromones before they start trying the not so basic or effective products.

Also if you get a putative…It might not even work at all! Now, most do, but some are duds. They also have the most subjective effects such as sensory enhancment, auditory shifts, mind expansion, increased perception of body language, etc…

Most are used to enhance a mix instead of being the base of one.

Think of it like orientation day at college. Everybody has to go through it just be familiarized, and then you can do whatever you like. As much as orientation can suck at times, you do learn a lot.

M&M, apart from the reason pointed by Toil, there is also another reason that Jas mentioned recently. Those experimental molecules are highly subsidised to keep them at a smilar price point to the cheaper molecules to make it accessible to a wider target to get feedback.

Most newbies in their excitement sometimes forget to provide feedback thus causing indirect loss to Androtics.

Tater cant believe his eyes. P79 is very useful at much lower dosages for different purposes. Are you sure you have the right phero, Toil?

Tater thinks it would be interesting if Androtics started posting the true product price for some of the pheros, and offered a discount with registration as a research result provider. Of course, the problem then would be getting incorrect reports because people felt forced to say something.

I think its good that Jasmin checks how much youve participated or tried previously before letting you order an advanced product, but wouldnt it be a good idea to not let newcomers order from the advanced section of the store until they get permission? They already get motivation to qualify from seeing the forum and our excitement over the MX and P products. Why not just block them from that part of the store?

I’m about to order a couple of products now and those which interest me the most are instant shine, instant openness and turn up the heat. I’m not so sure about turn up the heat, but it would be interesting to see what kind of effect it has (just for fun). I’m also thinking of substituting TUTH for Ammo, but it seems to me that both have similar effects altough ammo seems to be a mix of a314 and TUTH. I will mostly use these products at clubs and maybe at uni.

My last poof on the subjeet. I still say it’s like walking into a group of kids (20), and just giving the oldest OR the youngest candy while everybody else watches.

“I” should be able to spend MY MONEY like “I” want. :roll_eyes: OR make a special section of the forum where newbies can’t read the results of the P and MX series, so that can’t CRAVE what they don’t know about. If I read how people are getting crazy sexual/social hits from the P/MX series, why would I NOT want it? :o It’s never nice to TEASE, but I see some don’t understand that. :roll_eyes:

And by the way, Mr. BiscuitMan … reading your JOURNAL has me wanting to cancel the kids college funds and buy everything! SO, you’re responsible if they don’t get to go!! :roll_eyes:

Still … it “AIN’T” my house, so I can’t make or change the rules. :angry:

umm…yeah. I’ve also been off the forum since June. The last I was around the optimal dose was around 30, and it was used as a pheromone enhancer. It helped to pull out the positives of a mix and amplify them.

Have things changed?