Is Molecule K, TAK?
I just got my shipment in the mail and the shipping was really fast- nothing “custom” in the order so it only took about 2 days. Wow 
Just wondering what “molecule K” is… the invoice says TAK. My logical brain says “it’s probably TAK”, but I just wanted to double check.
Yep! let me know how it goes. I’ve always wanted to try all the Ta series and have yet to be able.
OMG he has returned
And been pretty active at that!
Good to see you back Toil.
Hey guys, good to see you are still around. Anything new in the world of pheromones?
SteveO I’ll have to give you a call and pick up some new stuff in the future.
I just tried out TAK. Two sprays To Go, 12.5mcg. I went to McDonald’s on my 50cc scooter wearing Scent of Eros under my gloves. I got to McDonald’s, went to the bathroom and sprayed on 2 sprays of TAK plus a few cover scent sprays. I ordered some fries and a coke, and the interaction seemed thoroughly ordinary for Scent of Eros type stuff. I went back later and ordered one of those sugar-free syrup iced coffee, this time on focusing on being polite (I felt a little rushed the first time for some reason, forgot to say “thank you”- not that they noticed anyways), and also tried to smile a little at the cashier during the order- I got a wierd feeling she wasn’t making so much eye contact with me, though- looking through my head. Then I went back and sat down. I made alot of eye contact with people and they did seem more “open” to me perhaps, but nothing really special happened between the staff.
However, I noticed a few looks and IOI’s. A muslim woman in hijab was waiting in line on another register and she occasionally glanced over at me. Not hard looks, but she seemed interested in me (could be the motorcycle jacket, too). However, a blond in a red shirt, I guess some kind of mother, looked at me really hard, glaring at me. I looked back and made eye contact, tried to smile a little (or, at least not frown) and she kept looking at me for 1/2-1 second before she looked away. Then the mom went off into the play room. I think she had walked past me while I was sitting down drinking my coffee, more focused on other things than who was walking behind me… so I can’t be 100 percent sure it was her.
I put on another zap of cover spray (I believe this sort of seals in the pheromones a bit on my neck against the wind) and rode half a block to the grocery store. I went in and picked up a few things. The young woman at the register was a little pudgey, not alot but it seemed to be mostly in her face, like she had water retention or something. Anyways she was super friendly, I’m not sure I’ve seen her before though. She asked me if I found everything I needed, Sir. Not that was unusual becaues usually nobody asks me at this particular grocery store- I think it’s a first time in a long while. I told her “yeah, more or less. Thanks”. Then we checked out. She called me “sir” about 3-4 times in the whole interaction.
I still can’t say what TAK does. I went home and washed off my neck where I sprayed it and put on a clean shirt. I’ll have to test it again in the future in some other settings that are more dynamic. Maybe get out and try to find more people that will small talk. I definitely felt a mild “altered” sensation when I washed it off, but when I sprayed it on I felt only a vague sensation that I can’t put my finger on… yet. Maybe I’ll have to fool around tomorrow or later doing some trippy stuff, seeing what the self effects are like (trances, meditations, just staring at walls, you name it… )
addendum… hmm… I’ve got a few more other observations. It seems looking back, the common thread throuh all these encounters was women gave me much more eye contact, or at least “head” contact and didn’t seem so afraid to look at me, esp. younger women. Maybe that has something to do with the effect. I think it’s safe to say it does something really unusual or wierd above and beyond what other pheromones do. Further study will be needed
Yep, The newest Ammo pre-releases MX271 - MX273 were released yesterday. See a report from Renny, with SteveO also providing his input on MX271 here: MX271 I'm Just Stunned!
it was released yesterday?
i must be really lucky then 
i have MX271, MX272, MX273 in my closet infront of me =x hehehehe!
Probably freebies that April sent you in an order.
Somebody referred to TAK as “liquid valium”. I had assumed it was valuable to keep things from getting outta control when you wear peromones (or amounts) that people react strongly to. I love SoE but I never felt a risk of it sending things out of control.
I just got some TAK, but haven’t tried it yet. I’ll let y’all know what I experience.
I never got that feeling… if anything WAGG feels more like “Liquid Valum” to me. WAGG seems great if you’ve got somebody that’s just in a pissed off mood and they need to chill out, it seems very gender neutral too (it’s good like Instant Female Magic for me, since I have trouble with that stuff). Or if you are upset yourself, it seems to help. I wish I knew what the stuff was, I hope it’s nothing addictive
No, TAK seems to be doing something much more subtle and not very “drug” like. I think somehow it’s influencing social behaviors and not really moods per se. Like I said I’m going to need much more experience with the stuff to put my finger on it.
I have experimented with TAK if you read my journal you can see my experiences.
Best way I can describe it, is an enhancer, and helps to drop your shield, and makes you feel very easy going, and allows you to open up.
Denec, I should read your journal then. Anything that lowers peoples shields would be good for me I think. There are so many peoples journals, though, it’s hard to keep up, and write my own.
I read your journal… you used 45 mcg of TAK? I was using about 25 mcg, I guess. It didn’t even feel close to the WAGG effect at 1 drop . It felt like nothing really, though I did feel self-effects when I washed it off, sort of altered somehow, but nothing serious. It’s nothing like washing off a couple sprays of instant shine, which really makes me feel like I need to sit down for a while.
I think that effect you are describing might have been what I was describing to you in the reaction of the young female clerks/cashiers, but I didn’t experience any self-effects at all. My behavior was pretty much the same as “normal” with Scent of Eros. Alot of the time, young women seem to be very shy around me and will not return alot of eye contact.
Also, what do you think the lifespan of TAK is like compared to other pheromones?..
Hmm… maybe WAGG = TAK, but WAGG is more concentrated and diffuses much faster? Who knows. I noticed with WAGG the self-effects were very extreme, but once in dried down after a few hours, it was very easy going feeling. I never had anybody do anything stupid wearing WAGG, though my brother got ticked off at me one time because I was distracted by just staring at cars/motorcycles passing by and couldn’t focus on his speech/didn’t care to listen to him at all (plus, sound seemed much louder than usual- it was like being drugged almost). Also, under the influence of WAGG later in the day, we had a very heavy, but unemotional conversation about philosophy and didn’t seem to give a damn that people around us might not care to listen to such heavy talk (and strangely enough, nobody around us seemed to care we were talking about gibberish to most of them)
Does TAK do anything similar? Perhaps TAK=WAGG, only the dosage in my case was wrong?
BTW, according to Pherolibrary/Lovescent, WAGG’s pheromone content is 5mg per 10ml… the same concentration as Scent of Eros. I’ve already determined that Scent of Eros has 50mcg per drop (with 10mcg of androsterone). Ergo, WAGG must be 50mcg per drop as well, assuming all the calculations are correct. If TAK were WAGG, then TAK and WAGG should have the same effects at approximately the same dosage.
Okay, tonite (Friday) I tried TAK for the first time. I did it all wrong, but…
I went to a concert. I used four drops A314, three drops TAA and 5 mcg each IH and IO. I think of this as my typical base formula, which I understand and am comfortable with. Then I added TAL,TAH, TAF and TAK.
I added 5 mcg TAL which I am just starting to experiment with. The first time I used it I went for a masage. This is a therapeutic massage at a massage institute. If you suggest a “happy ending” you will be persona nongrata – plus they will kick you out and tell you not to come back, er uh.. not to return. It is a weird experience having a young woman touch you all over; you are supposed to feel good but not aroused. This totally makes sense to women; I refuse to believe a man could ever completly apprehend the distinction. But sometimes getting the knots rubbed outta the muscles by a highly trained therapist is more important than a so called “happy ending”.
So there is this weird tension. In the heat of the summer when they cover the parts of the body not being massaged only by a sheet rather than a sheet and blanket, it is an even more tenuous comfort in therapeutic massage as I hope that Little Warren will behave himself. This attractive young woman is touching me (almost) all over, but I have to treat her like a stranger in a crowded elevator or risk being severly castigated. Enter TAL, the female Goddess pheromone. It is so cool – like now I am part of the sorority. I feel safe talking to this woman, like never before. In Robert Greene’s The Art of Seduction (if you read only one book other than the Mystery Method…), he is talking at length about the advantages of androgeny. Women are more comfortable with you. He has a long section on Oscar Wilde.
Tonite I also added 5 mcg. TAH, another female pheromone. I tried it once before (along with TAL) and I didn’t notice anything similar to what has been described elsewhere on this forum. I did not notice anything I could attribute to TAH tonite.
I added 5 mcg TAF. I’ve worn this a couple of times before. I got the expected effect. I was comfortably interested in my surroundings. My son was with me. I sprayed some on him. We both seemed kinda zoned-out observing things. I believe it helped me focus on the music. As the evening wore on and the TAF presumably wore off, I became more impatient with choice of music and so did my son.
And then I added 5 mcg TAK, which I have never used before. Maybe I got a bit more than 5 mcg because when you first spray a new bottle it sputters before you get a couple of clean, full sprays. I don’t know what the TAK did, but here’s what I noticed that was completely new: The qualirty of the IOIs was different. I was wearing a white linen suit, light purple linen shirt unbuttoned at the neck with a loosened dark purple paisley tie, Panama hat and natural (undyed) snakeskin boots. This costume by itself should have gotten attention – maybe positive, maybe negative – but it had to be noticed. Other people were just wearing an upscale casual – almost business casual. I would have expected more IOIs without pheromones. Most people didn’t notice me. They weren’t doing that trying-not-to-stare thing, either. But the few IOIs that I did get were extreme.
There was this girl working as an usher, standing there to make sure the people with cheap tickets didn’t wander into the expensive seats. She totally could not keep her eyes off me. She was defiantly fixated on me. She just stared, hungry. I’ve never experienced it like this before. The, also attractive, usher-ette next to her was completely oblivious to my presence. If only out of competitive instincts shouldn’t she have at least checked me out? So I turned around and walked back to ask the interested one where my seat was. Strong agressive eye contact. I was the only thing in her world. The other one completly failed to notice me.
A little later, a man stopped me and told me how much he liked my outfit. He and his girlfriend were drinking Budweisers, but it was early – he couldn’t have been too drunk. He was just gushing about my suit, hat, boots… I glanced at his girlfriend a couple of times. Apparently, she just thought I was absurd. But that’s what Mystery said, right, over the top with enough A314 to get away with it?
TAK is a tricky one to put your finger on. Mostly because I feel that it’s very subtle, or at least, externally subtle, internally powerful (like IFM to me, I never see any exhibited reactions like IOIs, but then she’ll come to be in a certain way, and then right there I know it’s the IFM.)
I’ve got a couple experience in my journal which may help you as well. I’ve varied my dosages from around 20mcg to 60mcg. I have a 10mcg/spray bottle.
As for the question regarding TAK=WAGG? I don’t think so. I haven’t tried WAGG first hand, so I could be wrong, but I believe from what I’ve read here and there about WAGG, that it is a combination of pheromones (furthermore, well known molecules), whereas TAK is a single pheromone by itself.
TAK IME is good for calming people down as you say. I recently had an adverse reaction to an ADD medication and I found that TAK was very helpful in calming me down, it wasn’t nearly as effective as the Seroquel later that night, but it was a nice temporary solution.
According to Bruce over at the Love-Scent archives, WAGG contains a previously unused pheromone, at least unused by his Love-Scent company products. Now that I have used it dozens of times, I can safely say it doesn’t contain androstenols or androsterone, the effect is different and it doesn’t generate the kind of “cool” or respect you get with Instant Gentleman/Androsterone, nor does it make you any more approachable really. I believe there’s only one molecule in it and it has a very simple effect- it puts people at ease regardless of gender. I think it might give shy people a little extra edge, since it lowers awareness of social risks.
I’m going to try some TAK in a large dose and compare it. I’ll post later…
Describing TAK to have a calming effect is a pretty good description, I do believe.
My take on TAK is that it seems to lighten the mood in social situations, not like the mood brightening effect of TAA, but more of a keeping things light and easy type of vibe. So yeah, I guess you could also call it a calming effect.
I did not notice a calming self effect, but this time of year my sinuses wreak havoc on me, and it’s more often than not that I’ve got a nose full of Psuedoephedrine and don’t get much, if any, self effects from my pheros.
Mark, I’m pretty sure TAK= WAGG now. The self-effects are very similar, and I believe 48-50mcg of TAK = 1- 1 1/2 drops WAGG. TAK diffuses much better, though. 4 sprays of TAK hits you fast and keeps going for a long time. Initially TAK made me slightly nauseaous at that dosage, too, and dizzy. Similar to WAGG but more extreme, the spray diffuses way much better than drops. I had to sit down a few minutes and was tripping out.
Also, you can have heavy conversations with WAGG or TAK. It totally depends on the other pheromones I believe. I’ve had philosophical discussions, I even just had a political arguement a few hours ago that ended up with I, myself quoting Kalil Gibran, "
Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to truth, follow only beauty, and obey only love". (one of my favorite quotes, and left my accountant/hard-nosed father a bit stunned- must have been TAK).
It does seem though that people don’t care as much about what happens, like their guard is dropped, though, and people don’t get quite as emotional in the arguements, like it doesn’t even really matter so much to them personally ( I hate talking too much about politics now days, but my dad was trying to push a few of my liberal buttons and started blathering) I think TAK can make you a bit wanting to say “what’s on your mind” too, perhaps a bit. BTW, we still had a fun time, but the problem started in the car on the way home when somebody put the air-conditioning on recycle 
Another observation, I believe less than 32mcg is a good dosage for TAK. 50 is too high. I think it makes people start talking a bit stupid or disrespectfully/socially improper and if somebody is outside the phero-cloud’s influence (hmm… sounds like something out of Star Trek?- That’s TAK talking BTW)… they might see the conversation or behavior as bizarre. At the dining table we had some somewhat bizarre discussions over Italian food, goofy, but probably a little bizarre. Like an impartial observer might wonder what drugs we were on (my mom and I will no doubt have a good laugh later since I told her I was going to try out TAK and see what happened).
BTW the waitress at dinner seemed to be really friendly and lightened up. Probably TAK helped some there, no doubt. I can see this pheromone as being very useful, although I think dosage is important.
I’ve never tried WAGG, so I couldn’t compare it to TAK, but I’ll take your word for it. As far as the discussion with your Dad, do you think it might have escalated or become more intense if you weren’t wearing the TAK?
And, the statement on people not caring as much and dropping their guards, I think is pretty much dead on!