Would a dose of androstenone be intimidating enough to keep kids - 5 to ten years old- away from a wooden fence
Well, you wouldn’t apply the Androstenone to the fence and expect the kids to just let it be… 
I suppose if YOU’RE wearing it when you give them a good talking to, with REAL consequences for their actions, you’ll highlight YOUR Intentions for Respecting the Fence… 
1Alpha
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why not if there is a sense of something scary would they keep away
Most everyone over the age of 2, will find mone signals around the PEOPLE they interact with. With family and friends. The mone signal BY ITSELF, will NOT be persuasive as it is not irradiating from a PERSON. The person, with his attitude, along with the MONE INFLUENCE, will be what will take the lead.
As an example, if you spray a Lamp with TUTH, will a person get all flustered and horny being around the lamp? Naturally, not, as the mones themselves are a small portion, an INFLUENCER, that will highlight the PERSON wearing it, not an inanimate object.
As human beings, we are attuned to the nuances of personalities, body language, and of course, mones. But, all must be in accord and be focused and brought out by a PERSON or Persons to be recognized and likely accepted.
I disagree with that. some research said women were attracted to a chair in a dentist room sprayed with androstenone. Also in the lampost amalogy i say that if it works at all the person would feel sexual and not know why since there is no person around but i do not agree they would not react at all
http://www.almostskyclad.com/FAQs2.htm
"Minute quantities were used on a chair in a dentist’s waiting room. Women patients made straight for the chair." The Sunday Times
Not toward the lamp, but, yes, MAY, get a bit on the horny, but, not be directing it at the lamp. That would depend on the persons inclinations and mental conditioning… “Yes, such a sexy lamp that I have here!” will not be the response…
Besides that, you need to have a carrier of the mones, usually a heat source, such as body heat will bring those mones out. A lamp may put off the scent package for a bit, but, eventually will not. So, no carrier… no mones…
As to your FAQ, there is no Jacobsons Organ or VNO in some people, so some consider it not used for the processing of mones in the body.
Here is additional research on the VNO and it’s possible use in processing mone signals.
Give it a try and tell us what happens!
1Alpha
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you copntradict yourself above you said no response would be possible from a lamp. The dentist chair experiment hardly had a heat source/ carrier yet it is as good evidence as any
First day with IS/A and MX135 and no results: advice on testing them separately lots of excuses there…lots of money to spend wile finding the right one…pheromone that is
I am allowing for SOME, as my emphasis on MAY, to be getting a reaction to the mone signal. Will it be focused? IME, no, it will not.
No contradiction, allowing for my statement, “That would depend on the persons inclinations and mental conditioning…”
I also emphasis the pheromone INFLUENCE, as an influence is an INDIRECT Power or pressure over someone or something, and in this case, can you say that ALL were influenced to go to that chair? As mones are an INDIRECT power, just an influence, it would, as I stated before, “…would depend on the persons inclinations and mental conditioning…” at the time.
I’m talking to you from the perspective of personal experience… going to back to the fence… it’s OUTSIDE… other factors are at work… wind and other scents will throw off whatever mone you have applied to the fence post. The mones will breakdown with the excessive heat of the day and the elements.
EVEN IF someone gets a whiff of mones, how will that affect them? Will they KNOW to stay off the fence? The mone communication would not be clear enough for that to be the assumption of signal.
I would again say… NO they wouldn’t work in that way, in that scenario.
No experiment has an all just most. Most went to the chair and the chair was inanimate so saying the lampost could have no effect is wrong
There is little scientific evidence that synthetic pheromones even work on human beings. This is all speculative, there isn’t enough research. 1 study with 1 dentist chair with a small number of test subjects (with like no brain imaging, all sorts of variables in diet/soap/cosmetics/clothing fibers/moods/demeanors etc) is not reliable either way.
Best thing in this case is going to be just doing n=1, testing it on the fence and seeing if anything happens. Ambient air temperature, heating from solar radiation etc all could give warmth comparable to human body heat depending on the weather. Arguing someone is right or wrong or contradictory based on a single study that was likely mostly unscientific and had wildly differing variables with each subject is just a waste of energy.
Yes they were attracted to sitting in the chair. So were children by the way and it was anone they used. Anone doesn’t communicate just a feeling of arousal. It coveys power and youth. Its like sitting in the kings chair. No where in the study did they indicate women were aroused by the chair. They sat in it because they felt safer sitting there.
Pheromones communicate something about the user. The reason they freak kids out is not because of the sexual vibe. They are to young to process that till puberty. Its the authority and power vibe that makes them shy away and frightens some young children. When you use to much anone around a child its the volatility of it that they feel.
There are different categories for different mones.
You have signalers, identifiers, releasers, alarm mones etc. etc.
Anone is not an alarm mone. Its a signaler and identifier. You can spray it all over your fence and it will keep the deer away but not the kids.
What Alpha is trying to say is… Its in how we process the signal. Kids are going to be intimidated by a big man wearing anone because they process the signal using all there senses. It identifies.
They are not going to be intimidated by the fence because it has no potential to carry out the signal. They will process information about it and its not intimidating.
Pheromones work in conjunction with our other senses. We take in all the info and in milliseconds subconsciously process it.
Here is an example >>…
If you close your eyes and you hear what sounds like a huge vicious dog barking your going to become intimidated and scared.
But if that noise is coming out of a stuffed dog your going to process it differently.
Its the same with mones.
Tisha
have you more details on that experiment
do you agree?
Let me add to
This is why I in fact purchased them and use them. I’m a big n=1 guy, that’s why I’m using them myself and in a methodical manner. While I can not measure physiological changes in a body or mind while using them, I can make observations though on effects on myself and others for building a data set of humint that applies to me and situations I might be interested in reproducing.
I have read the actual study in its entirety in more then one journal as well as pub med.
The women were interviewed after the sat in the chair. More then one responded it “seemed like a safe place to sit” It had nothing to do with sexual arousal but with attraction in general.
There was a time when that statement was true but not now. Yes I do agree more research needs to be done though. You need to look at the journal studies and the university studies. Study after study shows change in brain function when exposed to various pheromones.
Sustained human chemosignal unconsciously alters brain funct… : NeuroReport
Smelling human sex hormone-like compounds affects face gende… : NeuroReport
Preference for Human Body Odors Is Influenced by Gender and Sexual Orientation
The above are just some examples of journal studies. Some of them you need to be a subscriber to see the whole study. I subscribe to many of them.
Its a combination of these type studies and peoples real life experiences with different putatives that give us a indication as to what the possibilities are with synthetic mones. Yes the science is really still just in its infancy but not for long.
I do understand you wanting more proof and certainty before purchasing something. Science is not about certainty though its about exploration, discovery and theory. There is always more to learn.
Tisha
Yes see but most of the studies done on humans, have involved natural biological compounds. From my understanding the stuff sold by Androtics is all synthetic.
That’s why the forums are so nice… people go out and test n=1 style, come back and report their findings which with large enough samples give results you can safely assume are from one or more of the compounds they were using.
Synthetic just means made by man/women 
Your natural hormones/pheromones are created by aminos, proteins, acids, peptides polypeptides etc. etc.
Yes studies tend to use pheromones secreted or extracted from a human but molecularly they are not different then what is synthetically created. Under a microscope you would not know the difference. You couldn’t sell natural pheromones because its illegal to sell human secretions at least here in the USA.
Tisha
Yes and science shows us that synthetic versions of some compounds, although chemically identical, sometimes do not work the same for unknown reasons (the studies that come to mind for this immediately are some dealing with bovine calves and synthetic proteins identical chemically to naturally occurring ones in the mother’s milk). Synthetic versions of some things (rHGH [recombinant human growth hormone]for example is only about 40% of the structure the pituitary gland releases) aren’t complete either.
Not saying synthetic pheromones are bad, in fact they are far cheaper and can be made in quantity and concentration far beyond anything that could be harvested in nature (unless you tricked an algae into making it heh).
I am in total agreement hence the real life testing of coded putatives. Some do not work as expected.
Tisha
have you a link?
yes but there was something emanating from the chair that attracted it did not need to be worn by a person. hence my saying if pheromones of androstenone can cause fear they might do so on a fence
Ok, Magic. I have conducted some experiments with a substrate designed to approximate the structure and diffusion of human skin. With -eNone (10 mcg), after 4 hours, I felt some hostility (annoyance) toward an inanimate object. Anthropomorphism. I duplicated similar findings with P102, TAC and P75. These were conducted at room temperature and humidity in still air, with approx 125 cubic feet air volume. I have access to a 50K student univ and med school. I read many journals. I also invent devices and conduct tests–for personal use. The substrate is a special fabric used in medical supplies. Tacitus did testing with leather belts. He passed away. Try searching the forum.