MX282 Report

Well, something odd like that. Call it “metrosexual” or something :slight_smile: I suppose if I were gay I would have no problem whatsoever approaching women, just to talk. The first P74-thought that springs into my head is “she looks halfway friendly, let me go and say hello, at least” rather than “oh no… I should say hello, how do I pitch this without looking like a weirdo…” a train of thought that has led often to me talking myself out of the approach.

I actually wondered if I was coming across as camp when I was wearing P74 and Instant Shine, it’s weird. I think it was just my imagination… But adding a drop of A314 and a spray of Turn Up The Heat will not leave the woman any room for doubt :slight_smile: Because P74/Ishine is quite an exciting combo, but not too much, it just makes me extra enthusiastic about things. I forgot about my new deep voice that I had developed and tried to talk in my old voice. Now that’s still good, because it sounds sort of croaky, but I like to think pretty sexy :smiley:, not like Marge Simpson or anything, LOL.

I believe I saw a P83 thread somewhere in the men’s forum, I’ll have a look at that. Not sure what P100 is all about, though, there are so many putatives out there… and I think I’d like them all! Eventually.

Got my stuff in the mail today and the lovely Amy had also thrown in a freebie of P74!

Wahoooo!!!:slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Oh, you got a free P74 too? I am actually thinking of getting a big bottle of it, I like it a great deal. So many putatives to try out…

I was actually looking up P83 and this P74 thread came up again… it’s a good one. it’s from the men’s forum, but there are women’s experiences with P74 in the thread too. It is very a flexible social molecule, I am finding.

Well, I tried spraying MX282 to the back of my hair. 1 spray. After about 1/2 I got the first nigglings of a headache. About 4 hours after application, I sprayed another 1 to back of my hair. 15 minutes later, that niggling headache became a full-blown headache. I didn’t get any hits either.

Only a couple of sprays left in the bottle but I’m pretty sure they will stay there :frowning:

This next week though, I will be giving MX285 a fair trial…that is, of course, unless I get another headache :roll_eyes:

Ah… bad luck. It seems you don’t mesh well with MX282 - can’t win 'em all… How’s about this P74 then? I have never heard of anyone getting a headache wearing P74, I have to say it’s quite a sort of “natural, organic” effect that doesn’t make the synapses go crazy like some pheromones do.

If you have a nice time testing out P74, and forget about any weird coconut-smelling concoctions for the moment, then you can feel kind of refreshed and up to the MX285 task. I admire your persistence and I would hate to see you getting yourself into another week of headaches and stress - I mean the MX285 may not do this, I hope it is better for you - but I think the P74 will be a nice break for you, from the pressure of the tricky MX kit. The MX285 isn’t going anywhere and will keep.

Thanks for the advice ntk! I think I will give that P74 a try this next week. Funny Androtics should send me a sample of P74 after my unsuccessful trials of the “P74 based” MX sample pack, don’t you think? :wink:

I haven’t done much research about P74 (other than your previous posts above) so I’m not really sure what to fully expect out of it (which I think is a good thing :slight_smile: ). I think I’ll try out your Shine/P74 combo. I think I may add it to my ISexiness/Shine/Honesty combo too since I feel like I’ve got a pretty good baseline on that mix to judge the effects of the P74. It seems to me from your posts above that it loosens your inhibitions/induces a little spontaneity, is that a correct assumption?

BTW, do you think Tylenol “deadens” the effects of the pheros? I’m assuming at least a little since I think acetaminophen effects the central nervous system. I’m asking because I was thinking of how P74 would affect the MX282, which is the only MX that I had any noticable hits from, if I took a couple of aspirin first to ward off a headache. Of course, to me, MX282 smelled like it contained quite a bit of cops so maybe, I should try EOW and P74 instead and see how that affects hubby…hmmmm…I think I just might try that :smiley: :smiley: .

Ummm… I don’t know about deaden the effects, just sort of… frees up your brain to notice the more subtle effects that it sounds like MX282 or something delivers. It is hard to spot hits with a headache, after all!

I popped a couple of painkillers actually when I wore my big combo, I carried them around with me just in case. That time, I got a very minor headache, an “over-excitement” headache - but I get them occasionally with or without pheros. I think a lot, about all sorts of things, like all the time :slight_smile:, and overtax my brain quite frequently. I think it is the “INTP” thing that I tested for in the Meyers-Briggs thread, Well, I am constantly juggling things in my head, and sometimes it starts to complain…

I am surprised that I haven’t had more headaches with wearing pheros, I have had the hyperactive feeling but only two headaches, the one that came with the big combo was quite mild. Ishine is the frequently over-exciting one as well, to the neurons, but I only had bad effects when spraying it into my hair.

I think it is kind of like eating too many sweets as a kid or something, but without getting sick, just getting over-excited from the sugar and getting a sore head from it.

The P74/Ishine combo is really quite cool, I did a simple 30mcg/2 sprays combo the first time, and I was like an “Instant Busy Guy With Things To Do” - I mean I had things to do, but I felt more cool and important as I was doing them :cool: It is like “speak first, think later” but not in the bad sense of the phrase, I mean you can say the right things and not the inappropriate ones, it’s just like there is not really much of a thought process if you are even a bit shy, you don’t talk yourself out of saying hello, or some other opener, to people… (Which I tend to do sometimes. Projecting an alpha image, like I generally do, makes it, if anything, more difficult, women would never guess I was shy, even as I get all the guys thinking I’m the coolest dude ever; this has been a massive theme in my life!)

I can only imagine that EOW and P74 would be a very interesting combo.

Well, I might slap on another fairly weighty combo for a party tonight, LOL. I am in quite an experimental mood, and a somewhat silly one.

Ok, whenever I get around to the last few sprays of MX282, I’ll try the aspirin thing. I’ll bet it will help then.

I think we should call it a “phero rush”! heeheehee!

I get a “rush” if I spray a lot of Shine all at once and close to my face, but it usually only lasts for a few minutes and then settles down to a nice, cool, upbeat, “life is good” kind of feeling.

I’ll try it tonight!:slight_smile: Hubby thought he might be working late tonight…hopefully not TOO late!:smiley:

Silly? Have you been into the Spaceland bottle again??!!

So watchya planning to wear tonight?

Well River, I just got back and I think I really did OD, not OD as such, but I didn’t get any hits whatsoever that I can think of, but I had a good time with some people (who I already am friends with) I just could not get it right this time, I blame myself.

OK, it was an even bigger combo:
5x A314, 6x Turn Up The Heat, 40mcg betanol, 4x Instant Openness, 20mcg Androstadienone, 20mcg P79, 30mcg P74 … yeah it was quite a lot!

I felt, of course, great on the way there, but could not get it together to work my vibe when I was at the party; it was too crowded again. I work much better in lower people-density. I felt OK with my friends when separate from the main crowd, and OK walking back again, I was not very good essentially :angry: I wouldn’t have minded even if people had ran away from me with all that -none, but even that didn’t happen. Just didn’t seem to work one way or another… apart from the initial self effects on the way there which were cool: I felt like Batman.

At the party, I felt… unattractive. WTF? After applying all that? LOL, I don’t know what happened there.

Yeah, what a combo! Whew! But hey! Gotta try it sometime, right?:wink:

There are a few things here that are really making me wonder.

First, I read somewhere that Androstadienone can actually convert to androstenone over time on the skin.
1. I wonder how long this process takes?
2. Have you been wearing this a lot lately?
3. I’ve also read that -none can be hard to wash off and can have a build-up effect. If indeed, the A1 had converted into -none and if you’ve been wearing a lot of both lately, maybe the build-up was to your OD level??
4. Does A314 have -none in it too?
5. With all the A314 & -none, do you think people who didn’t know you just steered clear of any social interaction with you?

You sound like you became almost reclusive?? Dare I say, anti-social?? Could these anti-social feelings be a “let down” from the betanol & openess? Sometimes I feel wiped out after a big phero day.

Then again, maybe you just had a bad night and it had nothing to do with the pheros.

Well, I tried the EOW and P74 combo but hubby worked until about 2:30am and didn’t bother waking me up when he got home.:frowning: I’ll try it again some other night.

  1. I think it may convert to androstenol first and then to -none (?)… I dunno really, I really started losing my magic quite early on into the night! Still, I have met a good friend (female) today by accident, who has given me a potential nice connection into some more social networks, and helped me rebuild my ego a bit :slight_smile: so it’s all good.
  2. um… a bit of -none here and there, maybe a spray or 2 of Ishine… yeah, I could have had residual -none on me. I think I wore 2 sprays of TUTH on the Thursday actually, and had a day off Friday. I wore one earlier in the week… not a great deal, I suppose.
  3. Yeah, there was quite a bit of -none intentionally applied. I think there was some mischievous spirit in me that actually wanted to OD last night, LOL. But it was weird because it was so normal… I didn’t even get any ghost effect, or any freaky reactions. I have read different things concerning A1->-none conversion re: the percentage converted and the timeframe over which it happens, but I think it’s quite a long timeframe compared to the party. It would probably be a drop in the ocean compared to the 6x TUTH. LOL, I know I was in a silly mood.
  4. I believe it has a very minimal amount of -none in it, as something to give the androsterone a bit of an edge.
  5. I think I just didn’t live up to my vibe like I did last time, and so it collapsed! I did all the wrong things like, well I did get some nice eye contact actually from an attractive woman, and I looked away shyly as per instinct - an instinct that I’ve been working hard at overriding for some time now. Then I chastised myself for doing that, and… hmm, maybe the P79 played a part in just sending me off course. Because it has a “drifting” effect, it seems to me, where you can feel a mood and it will amplify and send you off in the direction of the mood. But it will do that with any mood, good or bad.

I was just shy about 3 hours into the combo/2 hours into the party, which was really weird, given the drastic amount of pheros I was wearing! I think there was still some operational life in the betanol and IO components then. I think the contribution from the P74 was swallowed up in the phero-maelstrom, LOL.

I did become a bit anti-social later as a defense mechanism, but only after trying to summon up the vibes again. I think it was too crowded a place and I did not have the space to move about like I would like. When I was in a less crowded bit I was fine, even pretty good and able to command attention without coming across as scary or anything. OK, I suppose failing that eye contact test was the first thing - that was in the crowd. Then I probably just lost the plot from there.

Yeah I had a “curate’s egg” of a night :slight_smile: Parts of it were excellent. But not quite as good as I would have expected from loading up on pheros like that! Very weird.

Like I say, I’ve been given an opportunity to meet some new people soon, who come highly recommended by my friend, so I’m not going to wear a crazy overwhelming combo like that one to introduce myself… something more modest perhaps :smiley:

OK so, any notable self effects from the P74? Or maybe it is one of those things that only “kicks in” when you are out and about? I have found that, oddly, sometimes I don’t get any self effects immediately after spraying. But they start to happen when I leave the house and start to encounter people. The pheros seem sometimes to be waiting for the right context before they make themselves known. P74 & Ishine is almost, I feel, like Instant Gentleman without the “man” aspect: it feels like a “cool, hip person” vibe that could be male or female. And it seems to be flexible too, if you “think alpha” it will help you project alpha, “think cute” and it will give a cute, approachable vibe. So if both you and your husband have a social event of some sort to go to, you may see the P74 effect most strongly there.