Pheros with Your Hostess, Nehve

Day 1:

I received my very first order today :cool:. My shipment included to-go spray bottles of IS/B, Instant Shine, IO x1, TAF (lowest dose), and a complimentary gift of IH (x2). Also, someone named Jacob wrote a couple words on my receipt. Nice!

I applied two sprays of Instant Shine along my collar bone and one tentative spray of IS/b on the back of my neck and went to work. I know we’re supposed to use one product at a time to figure out effects of each, but I couldn’t resist b/c I never know when my TG is going to show up, so I had to use atleast a little bit, just in case :smiley:.

I never ever wear perfume. I don’t have anything against it, but I just prefer to smell shower clean or “not stinky”. So I can say that I was self-conscious about the smell of the iShine. It smelled good, but I was uncomfortable with the thought of other people being able to smell it, too.

It’s hard to pinpoint effects. I can say that I felt more grounded today and I wasn’t on my usual default setting of anxiety. I seemed to be a little more relaxed and most of the times I spoke, I was able to speak without stammering and being nervous as usual. My coworker seemed to talk to me a little more, but it could be because I was working on a problem that she was interested in. Also, it seemed that my coworkers seemed to come very close to me when they had to ask me something. But again, I probably noticed them being close because I was worried about my fumes. :o Other than that, no responses that I noticed when I was around strangers.

So, I’m not going to count anything as a “hit” today. I’ll use the same formula tomorrow and see what happens.

One of my goals with this pheromone business is to see if I can get some response out of my long-time crush. I only see him at work. He’s a delivery type person, so I never know exactly when he’ll come by. I only directly interact with him about once a week if Im lucky for about 5 minutes per encounter. Being that I see him so seldomly, I need to pack some punch when I do. I was thinking that when I’m more likely to see him, I should use maybe 3 sprays Is/b and 2 sprays IO? Does that sound good?

Also, besides self effects of focus and concentration, how does TAF affect those around us? :confused:

Thanks from a total Noob.

Day 2

Products/Application: 2 sprays Instant Shine (x1) to collar bone, 1 spray Is/B to back of the neck, 1 spray TAF to left wrist. I took a little of the TAF from my wrist and applied to my collar bone and back of neck in hopes of covering the cologne-y smell of the first two products.

So then I went to work. Again, nothing happened that I can distinctly attribute to the 'mones. The girl i mentioned earlier seemed a little nicer to me again today, but things have sort of been progressing in that direction even before I got my products yesterday. Another thing that was out of the ordinary was this one lady that works in another dept called my name whenever she saw me. But she didn’t have a chance to smell me, so id call that coincidence.

I was still a little conscious of my odor today, but not that much b/c I actually like the cookie fragrance of the TAF. It smells kinda weird when you first spray, but when it dries it’s pretty yummy. However, I wasn’t totally relaxed about it b/c i worried about if the scent was too strong.

Seems like you and I are in the same boat… I hope that it gets better for the both of us :slight_smile:

Honestly, I think you need to relax about the smell. (I KNOW it’s hard) When I was worried about the smell on my coco chanel mishap day, it was harder to recognize hits and I had to really concentrate. Pheromones are a tool, not a silver bullet. We must use them to our advantage. I see it as opening doors, it is up to us to walk through. That’s just my opinion though. LOL! Don’t lose faith.

I hear you. Actually I think I’m getting better about that because a family member says that she can’t smell anything on me. And at work, no one has said anything about it. Today, I couldn’t even smell it, so maybe my nose is used to it now. The first day, I could smell it the full 8 hours of work! Now I think I believe where it says that the smell dissipates when it’s dry and is as faint as hairspray or body wash.

Day 5: Wore 2 sprays Ishine to chest and 2 sprays IS/b (one to collarbone, one to back of neck).

Like I mentioned in the last post, I’m not that conscious of the smell anymore. I could barely even smell it on myself today and my more sensitive-nosed coworkers haven’t said anything about it.

Today was a good day. People weren’t skipping and humming showtunes around the workspace, but no one was really irritable, either. The girl I’ve mentioned before seems to talk to me more. I wouldn’t say she’s all that chatty of a person, but it seems like she has been trying to include me in her conversations and thought processes the past couple days. Like she’s talking to me like I’m an equal. Of course I am an equal, but usually everyone ignores me because I’m literally a social dunce and they know that I never have anything to add. So it’s possible that she’s being affected.

The weird thing is that the atmosphere felt nice and calm, but I didn’t feel all that nice and joyful.

My crush (that I mentioned in my first post) came by today. :slight_smile: See that’s why I wear the IS/b because I just never know when I’ll see him. He was with someone else…they were talking but silenced when I neared them. I had to ask him a question and (this could be all in my head, but) he seemed to lean forward to answer me–his face seemed really close, but i could be making it up. I can’t really tell if he was affected b/c he seemed to be in a decent mood before I even got near him.

Tomorrow I think I’m going to do about 4 sprays IS/b and a couple sprays each of IO and IH. Hopefully he comes down tomorrow,lest I waste my IS/b. I know Im supposed to test only one thing at a time, but I’m just too anxious to see if there’s a turning point ahead.

OD, here i come! :wink:

Day 6

OD day :smiley:. Well, I don’t think I actually OD’d. Again, no one dancing on the tables today, but no one seemed to be in a bad mood either.

I used 4 sprays Is/b (3 around collar and chest, and one to back of neck). I sprayed 2 sprays each of IO and IH and Ishine on the insides on my forearms and to the back of my neck. I thought I was over the smell thing, but when I got to work I was self-conscious again, feeling like id bathed in cologne. Maybe it’s a mental thing since I knew I was wearing 10 sprays of products.

My TG came by. It’s so unfortunate the tiny window of time i have to work this with him. He came to just drop something off…and then he was gone. And I wasted 4 sprays of IS/b today!!! Maybe next time he comes by, I’ll have to spend more time helping him. But I just never know…I really do want to see how/if the mones affect him, but he needs more exposure.

I think I may try the IO with the Ishine tomorrow.

Today my perfumes from Demeter came with UPS. What happened to delivery guys knocking on the door and waiting at least 30 seconds before they drop the box on the porch and drive away??? :angry: At least this one rang the doorbell; when i got my 'mones last week, they just put the envelope against the door. I didnt even know it was out there! {end rant}

Anyway, I got my “cover scents” today. :slight_smile: I don’t like perfume, but I tend to like “dessert” smelling fragrances (candles, body wash, air plugins, etc). I got 5 vials of 'em!

So this afternoon before work I used 2 sprays of each IO (on forearms), IS/b (neck), and Ishine (on my neck). Then rubbed a lil’ of my angel food cake over the spots.

***Possible hits, maybe?


Again, the coworker I keep mentioning is really nice and helpful to me. It’s like she genuinely wants to help me and she’ll randomly ask me non work related things.

Another coworker, who doesn’t really say anything to me, approached me twice: once to explain something I was looking at and the other instance could have happened any day so I won’t count it.

And yet, a different coworker who is training, asked me more questions (work related) than she ever has. Usually she will go out of her way to ask someone else even when I’m sitting right there.

While I was walking to our breakroom, a man that I was passing by said hello.

So I don’t know. I’ve used the Ishine every work day and I can say that I haven’t seen much of any irritability with my coworkers. I can’t speak definites, but so far I think Ishine may be a good base 'mone. I think I’ll buy more of it next time.

I don’t think I’m getting much action with the IS/b. The purpose of me using it is to attract one certain someone, but surely I should be getting some “hits” from random men outside of my workspace. However, I’ll keep using it until I have a fair chance to see how it works (or doesnt) on my TG.

I just started using the IO, so it’s hard to tell. Maybe that’s what made the coworkers I mention a little more open today. I’ll have to try it alone to see.

I know there’s only 1.5 people reading this thread, but can I get a little advice from someone?

I was thinking that if I order a full bottle IS/b next time, that maybe I should order a vial of TAL to give a kick in the rump. I know that TAL is in IS/a, but do you think it’s better to just order a full bottle of IsA to go along with the Is/b?

Hi, there! I would order a to-go of IS/A and try it out alone before mixing it with IS/B. Maybe your TG likes a more “commanding” woman and would respond more to IS/A. If he responds well to it, then get a full-size bottle. I hope this helps. Keep us up to date! :slight_smile:

This is the info I got from Xiphoid when I asked for help.
"Is he an alpha guy? If he is, then try some IS/b (alpha 's tend to like IS/b & TAH rather than IS/a & TAL ) with a touch of EoW and some IH "

I really don’t see him that much, but as far as I can tell he’s a shyer, quiet, laid-back type. That’s not what I think of when I think of my limited definition of “alpha”. So maybe I do need a little IsA to push him over the edge. :wink:

I would definitely give it a try. Most men respond very well to IS/A.

Not sure what to say sweetie, I used IS/B with my non/alpha guy because I am the more strong willed out of the two of us and I wanted to soften myself up. It turned him into an alpha male that day. Day 10 Whew!

Today I used 2 sprays of ishine and Is/b.

Then I did a whopping 6 sprays of IO along both of my forearms. Since people report that they achieved definite results with IO, I just wanted to increase the chances of observing strange activity.

But no such luck. The only thing that may be a little weird is that this one girl I work with (who never talks to me) asked me a “getting to know you” question.

It could be placebo effect, but I think the IO made me want to talk. I wished everyone else would talk so I could possibly participate a little, but no one really did. It was a pretty lame work day. I found myself coming up with quick responses and replies in my head to little things people said.

Other than that, nada.

Sounds like you OD’ed big time. :open_mouth: Was that eight or ten sprays of product? Just try one product at a time, starting with one or two sprays and then increasing the dosage throughout the week. It will help you gauge your results and find your sweet spot. Tisha wrote an excellent post on testing HERE (How to Test and Report On Products UPDATED 12/01).

Also, your environment is a key factor in how people respond to the pheros. If your work environment is very serious, and people are trying to concentrate on their work, you may not get too many responses with IO. But if you wear it to a party, the IO will have a more significant effect, since people go to parties to socialize. So time and place are very important.:wink:

Keep trying. Reduce the amount of product and sprays you use at one time, and let us know what happens! :slight_smile:

Yes, that was 10 sprays total. Ta hee…:smiley: I knew I was at risk for OD-ing, but I just wanted to see what would happen since nothing much has happened so far.

All of my “field testing” takes place at work, as I don’t get out much.

But i will keep trying and see what comes of this!

I can’t imagine using so many sprays of product. I’ve enjoyed some great hits every time I use my pheromones but I’ve recently decided to step back and do the one at a time testing unless I am meeting my FWB. Then, I use the mixture that seems to make him crazy.:wink: I do enjoy reading about your tests.

So, today in an effort to start playing by the rules and find my sweet spot the methodical way, I used only 2 sprays of Ishine–one at the base of the neck and the other split between wrists. I usually throw in atleast one spray of IS/b just in case my TG shows up, but didn’t this time. I saw him today, but I was just passing by him, so it was like “Hey” and keep it moving. Luckily I didn’t “need” the IS/b anyway.

I covered the sprays with Demeter’s “Laundromat”. I think it smells nice and clean, but one of my coworkers commented that something smelled like some kind of chemical. :roll_eyes: I guess I’ll stick with the foodie scents.

I think I actually may have had a hit today. Our newest coworker (who never talks to me) tried to have a conversation with me. She asked me about what my family does for the holidays, what shows I watch on TV, what I want for Christmas. At one point she was looking over my shoulder, commenting on pictures in the magazine I was reading.

Hit? I hate to second guess, but I’m new to this so it’s hard to attribute occurrences to the phero game. Because I’m reaching and thinking to myself, Well, we were left alone together longer than we’ve ever been…maybe she’s more comfortable talking to me in private or She doesn’t know anything about me–maybe it was just time.

You know?

Today I used some 2 sprays each of IO, Is/b, and Instant Shine. I was assigned at a place where I’m more likely to encounter my TG, so I had to pack a little more heat. :stuck_out_tongue: I’ll resume methodically testing with less product next workday. I didn’t notice anything blatantly odd nor did I end up seeing my TG. Oh well.

I think I’m having an epiphany or something. I’ve been feeling more confident lately. Not confident as in “I look good and we all know it” but “comfy-er in my own skin” confident. :cool:

It’s a little uncomfortable. I feel a little better. Like I want to stand tall and look people dead in the eyes, but Im not used to it, so I’m having a hard time. I imagine that it’s like being the obese person who loses a lot of weight, but still feels like the “fat girl/guy” inside.

Being a person with grossly poor social aptitude (I’m serious…I don’t talk to people, don’t have friends, never dated, etc…"), this is different. I’m not totally free of inhibitions, but it’s somewhat strange not to be fully subjugated by insecurity and anxiety because that’s been my default setting every day of my life.

As a result, I realize that I need to learn how to fill in the gap between my new confidence and the new social interaction I’ll come upon consequently. While the rest of you were sharpening your social skills and vocabulary just by communicating over the years, I wasn’t. Thus, my speech is not the best (I have a hard time expressing myself when people talk to me) and I don’t really know what “being myself” is. So it’s going to be interesting to pad the space between with vocabulary and a personality.:o

Anyway, I know this isn’t the Dr.Phil forum, so I’ll stop. :open_mouth: