How to Test and Report On Products UPDATED 12/01

(At the bottom of this post I have included a small guide on how to find your sweet spot)

It has occurred to me that alot of the new people who have reported have not given detailed reports which is something that is needed by Androtics to make new consumer products. I am guilty of this at times as well. (sorry Jas :wink: )

I am going to post a outline here so that new people will understand how to report so we can have some more consumer goodies faster.

First off when you receive a product advanced or not you should use it by its self for at least a week in different environments. A pheromone that works well in a social situation may not work as well in a work environment.

Example… You can write it in story form if you choose just be sure to add to it the below information for research purposes. If you later begin to see patterns you can always add that to your thread at a later time.

1 week of testing Instant Openness regular strength. To go bottle
some bottles have a number on them like 2.5 or 5.0 12.5 etc.

Scent. Neroli. Liked scent, Could smell faint smell of feet.

Day 1. 2 sprays, 1 to chest, 1 to hair.

Environment. Supermarket semi crowded.

Self Effects
I got a slight phero rush which lasted 5 minutes then felt very happy and outgoing.

Noticed effects to others. (these are just examples)

Lady in produce followed me around trying to make conversation. 3 feet away when noticed

Received compliments from a few people in check out line. 1/2 feet away

Excessive staring noticed from patrons appo 8 feet away

Girl in parking lot, approached me and struck up conversation and didnt seem to want to stop talking to me. Sunny, no wind, Temp 70

Environment Home, 2 hours after application. Temp in house 70

Range people 7 to 8feet away or closer effected.

Time response, noticed effects after 3 to 5 minutes of exposure.

Self Effects
slightly more chatty

Effects on others

Husband was overly chatty and in a upbeat mood.

Sister who was in a cranky mood when I first arrived soon perked up and chatted consistently will I put groceries away.

Duration of effect

6 hours.

Week 2 Instant Openness and Instant Sexiness A

You can start a new thread or continue with your mix experiments in the same thread.

This is just an example of the kind of info they need in a report. You do not have to report the whole week in one post you can always come back and add to the thread. If administration or members have any questions or need additional info they will post in your thread.

Hope this helps the new people and reminds the more experienced in there reports :wink:

Edited to add >>>> If you prefer you can copy and paste the below template and just fill in the blanks so you cover everything. Thank you Andrew. :slight_smile:

Product name,scent and strength

Application dosage and locations

Environment tested in.

Self effects.

Effects to others

Duration of effects.

Effects from mixing with other products.

Range

Time exposure.

Remember especially with the advanced products they want you to test them on there own for a few days first and report on them as solo products. Then after you get a feel for what they can do you can add any information about how the test product interacts with other products. You however do not have to mix if you choose not to.

You are also encouraged to add any other pertinent information that you think will be helpful and want to share.

Finding your sweet spot or dosage.

Always start with one product at a time. You want to see exactly what effect you get from it and how much your dosage range is. This will make layering easier later.

Day 1… Try one spray, note any self effects, go out, look for behavior changes in others and direct hits.

Day 2 … Use two sprays, note self effect, go out, do the same look for behavior changes and hits.

Day 3… if you still have not seen anything go to three sprays and repeat the process. I you did begin to see some effects still use the 3 sprays to see if increasing can make hits more pronounced.

Day 4 … Still more testing with the same product, Now you are testing application points. We are all built different and diffuse differently from our bodies.

Hair, Back of neck, Neck, Pulse points, chest, stomach, wrists, forearms.

In colder months if you covered up. Back of hands. Cloths if absolutely necessary. Mones dont diffuse well from cloth though.

This whole process should take about a week or a little under. Then move to the next product.

After you tested each on its own you can make combos by layering the products.

Tisha

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Well I tried to rep you for this post, but it told me I need to spread it around some more before I come back to you. Anyway great post with a very useful explaination.

Tisha, this is a great idea!:slight_smile:

Lots of people have had trouble with the “dosage” question - if your experience report does not say something like “regular strength” and “xx.x mcg per spray” and 30 ml or TOGO size spray, many folks will be unable to calculate the exact amounts, or even the approximate amounts, that you used. This is bad, because we want people to be able to try the same thing you did, and then say it works (or does not work) for them, too.:stuck_out_tongue:

Size of bottle (TOGO or 30 ml) indicates the amount of liquid released in each spray - TOGO sprays are slightly smaller than 30 ml bottle sprays.

Regular strenght or double strength, etc., tells us what amount of active ingriedients were used.

Because many “advanced” custom products come in user-specified higher concentrations - when making a report including advanced/custom products, please say what the specific concentration is, for example: “Putative 102 - P102 1 spray at 2*5 mcg. per spray.”:o *

Good tips, as always, Tisha!

This is exactly the kinda thing I was thinking of!!! When I was talking about the template thingy, cant rep you until I rep others :frowning:

Bump for new members :wink:

Thinking this should be a sticky. I guess I can make that decision so I’m going to.

BANG: You’re sticky with Strawberry Syrup

I editted the origonal post to add a copy and paste sort of template for those who wish to use it. Thanks for the idea Andrew and Rattlesnake. :wink:

Tisha

I know you mentioned in a post that you were going to remove this template, but I am SOOO glad you didn’t I am such a template girl! THANKS YOU ARE THE BEST!!!

Just wanted to touch on this subject.

I was talking to Jasmin today briefly by PM and we touched on a subject that has stuck with me since. Its not the first time it has come up. I have talked to steveO about this to.

Whether a womens product will go retail as Ammo is.

And the desire for more womens products.

The anwser…

“Its hopeful in the future when there is more research data available”.

The ratio of men to women in this forum is huge, (we love ya guys) we all know that. So more men are getting involved and testing and reporting on the advanced products. Therefore more products come out geared toward them because androdics just isnt getting enough feedback from the women. Dont get me wrong they love and appeciate all the women here but right now we only have a select few who report on the products and even less that report on the advanced. This is info they need to make new products for us to try. Until then we wont see as many releases of test products as the mens do. Sure there will be some, they are in no way leaving us out in the cold, quite the contrary, they are looking for more feedback so they can make more products geared toward women.
I am not saying that we a been jipped in anyway. The ladies products they do have here are top of the line.

I know from talking with the ladies here that we all would like to see some more products to suit our needs. We would also like to see the products that have already been made for women like the alpha womens pack stay in the store. I know I have mentioned it more then once in the forum.

I know reporting may seem redundant with alot of the consumer products but its important info for Androtics. Reports on them often and revisit those reports at times to add info that may be new.

If you do have advanced products give as much feedback as you can on them. This is very very important if we want to see more formulas geared toward us.

Be sure your report is Detailed if its not it wont help further their research. The more detailed the report the better, even if your just telling a story of whats going on around you it is helpful. It sometimes shows the different nuances of a mix that way.

Be sure to add all the important info like how much, strength, if you used other products, enviroment, even your cover scent choice,

Good or Bad they want to know, so dont feel bad if something in the advanced is not working for you. Be as honest as you can in reporting.

I know we are out numbered, but I also know we have a savvy group of women here and we can report alot more then we have been. Myself included.

So lets not leave Androtics out in the cold, Lets report as much as we can even if we risk redundancy.

Just wanted to add these posts by Jasmin pertaining to the future here. [links not found]

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/pheromones-88031-post22.html

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/pheromones-74786-post25.html

Tisha :wink:

Oh Kay! I want to help. Which women’s products need reports the most? Far as I can tell there are: Instant Sexiness A and B, Instant Female Magic for women, Lust After Me, MX134, and MX135. Are there other products I’m missing? I have IS A, MX134, and MX135. And is MX109 from the Lust After Me line? I have that too.

New users are limited to ISA and IFMw, correct? I’ve been seeing lots of ISA reportage, but not much IFMw.

Thank you Kitten, your a huge help now and are a big tester of the products. Just keep doing what your doing. Maybe you can pick out a putative now and then when you order to test.

I dont want to dictate to anyone what should be tested. I dont work for Androtics and I am a tester like the rest of you. I guess I just assume most of you want to be part of the advanced product section.

I feel I can step right up there as one of the ones who hasnt tested everything they have yet so I am not going to judge anyone else. I am going to make a effort to start more threads on the products I have though.

So what I am saying is if you have it be sure to test it and report on it. I see alot of people say I have this or that but when I go to look there is no report on it. If your a person who is not interested in the advanced stuff thats great to, you dont have to report and can still be part of the forum. You just wont get advanced.

It would be my guess that they need the most feedback on the putatives from the advanced users and any experimental test mix that is released or hasnt been tested much.

I do believe we will see a movement of products up to consumer section soon :cool:

There are 4 new putatives that have just been released, I know they have a slew more they would like tested to that havnt been released yet.

If your not sure if you posted enough on a certain product go to your user name on the left, click on it, then choose view “threads started by your name” and you can pretty much see what you have reported on so far. Most people start there own thread for a actual report. This also makes it easy for Androtics to check to see if you have been reporting when you place a advanced order. They do scan the journals I am sure as well but it was suggested to put a new report in the regular section and then at the end right further testing in my jouranal or something like that so they can look there.

As Jasmin mentioned when anything is advanced in your order you should put your forum username in the note box so they can check this. I know they are getting more stringent on this not to be mean or anything but I think more to stress the need for detailed feedback.

She also indicated in the above posts I linked that a ways down the road the forum will be changing a bit.

I think she is trying to ease everyone into the changes and give them ample warning because she wants all of us to be part of those changes and for foru members to all be a part of it.

I dont know exactly when the changes will occur or exactly what they will be but I do know I plan to be part of them so if there is going to be a R&D section that is for the advanced I wanna be there. I want all of you who want to be there to be able to as well.

Instant Female Magic for women hasnt been tested much
Some of the T series, I know they like the T series.
Only 5 or 6 of us have used the sunshine series and reported.
Putatives for the advanced user.

If your interested in advanced report

If you have advanced report

If you just want the consumer products, hey share your experiences still I am sure they love to hear it and I know I enjoy reading about them.

I reported on the Sunshines, but I did it back in March/April 2007. Should I bump those?

If you have something new to add to them sure but I am mainly refering to people who have products they never reported on. :smiley:

Oh, gotcha. :wink:

After an emotional roller-coaster week, I have to say that Instant Sexiness A and Instant Shine really came to my rescue! They make me feel so good and make things feel very calm! Everyone in my household is mellow and even people I sit next to on the train love to chat which is not a usual occurance here! I am in control at work and able to focus on some pretty boring stuff. That’s with two sprays of each on sides of neck. I find the fragrance a little masculine initially and have no awarenes of pheromone smell as it wears off. Actually I find it no longer has a smell after about an hour and I want to spray more on because I love the way I feel, I just don’t want to waste it on people I’m not interested in! My to go sizes are almost done and have ordered big sizes this time. Got a 2X of Shine so am I right to assume that I use half as much for same effect? Are they still “working” even if I can’t smell anything?

Tried out LAM on SO last night. Nothing intense, just 4 drops on base of scalp and neck (2 each side). Lots of snuggling and cuddling and “boy you smell good” - definite interest (jet-lag took over before any fireworks!) but I really just wanted to see if it would have any effect on him. Smell of the stuff (LAM) is truly gross even after it “calms down” and I covered it with an aromatherapy mix which includes ylang ylang and neroli so maybe a little too much relaxation involved there! I could still smell it as an icky smell but didn’t seem to bother him at all. May try an extra couple of drops elsewhere (any suggestions where so I won’t have to get a great wiff of it?) Also do guys get immune to the effect of LAM after a period of time? Don’t know what to do if it requires a whole bottle of the stuff eventually!

I’m giddy with anticipation! Thanks for all the advice, I’m just amazed at how we all have slightly different perceptions and effects from the same stuff.

Well, the ratio is understandandable. We women are a tad bit better at flirting. We learn it almost from the cradle. :slight_smile:

That being said… I WANT SOME ALPHA FEMALE! YEAHHHHHHH!:smiley:

I just wanted to add something to the origonal “testing” post because I feel the info vcould be useful to androtics when reporting.

Range and Time exposure.

Range is just the distance you feel the product is being diffused. Its a estimate of course but it may help them with understanding certain scents and which one will be most effective. Like with MX135 in chocolitini. I find the range is alot more, at least 5 to 7 more then when I wear say Isexiness. It just gets out there farther and grabs them.

Time exposure: How long was a person or persons exposed to your mones before you noticed hits.

Keep in mind these are just suggestions so when you report your giving them as much info as possible to help in the making of there amazing mixes. :wink:

Hey tisha, when you get a chance how about putting range and time exposure in the little template thingie…that thing is pretty handy.

Opps Thanks Renny I added it in to the copy and paste template

Thanks ((((Renny)))))

Tisha