MX282 Report

Day 1: 1 spray to wrists, rubbed together

Hmmm…strong coconut…I took a couple of really long, deep whiffs to see if there were any self-effects. Slight buzz, feeling a bit out-of-sorts, that feeling lasts for a couple of minutes, then headache and a pooped-out kinda feeling after about 10 minutes.

No noticeable hits other than my hubby complaining that I was wearing that “stinky” stuff again. Apparently he doesn’t like the coconut :frowning: …and…no other reaction from him…hhmmmffff!

Day 2: 1 spray to wrists, rubbed together and 1 spray to chest/throat. I didn’t take the immediate whiff but again about 10 minutes later, I got a headache as well as the out-of-sorts feeling.

I had a meeting with 4 of my employees, 3 men, 1 woman. Meeting was OK but with a headache, I wasn’t my usual self and I didn’t direct the meeting very well. Lately, I’ve been wearing Instant Sexiness A and Instant Shine and feel very confident, in charge, and competent but today, with just the MX282 on, I felt anything but that. No odd reactions from the men, the meeting was business as usual, not much playful banter as what usually takes place. When the meeting was over with the men, I stayed longer with the woman to further discuss some issues. She got all teary-eyed and weepy as we talked thru some of the problems she was having. I feel that I handled that well and I think she felt better when we were done but I did make one observation…I’m usually a pretty “soft” person and have a difficult time keeping my own eyes dry when someone’s crying their heart out…but today, I didn’t even mist up although I sympathized with her…inside, I almost felt “apart” from emotion. Aloof. Definitely so not like me…I admit, I even tear up when I hear the Star Spangled banner!:o Lame, I know.

Day 3: 1 spray to each of my wrists, 1 to chest/neck, 1 to hair

Same self-effects as before: slightly out-of-it, headache.

I normally like coconut but I’m starting to get annoyed with this sticky, sweet smell.

One really big hit today. A sales rep came into the office. We’ve met before, but usually he goes about his own business, and makes a bee-line to our salesmen’s offices, not really going out of his way to talk to me or shown even the slightest interest whatsoever. Today, we happened to meet in the front office- I was refilling my water bottle, he was coming in the front door. We shook hands and made the typically polite small-talk and parted our ways. However, when I got back to my office, he kept turning his head sideways and staring at me thru the glass doors to my office. While sitting at my computer, the glass doors are just behind and slightly to the right so they are fully in my peripheral sight. The doors were slightly ajar, so I could hear most of what was being said in the other office. In between business talk, he’d ask questions about me…what’s her name again?..how long has she worked here?..she’s the CFO, right?..and so on. He’s probably been in the office a dozen times before and his actions today were very odd.

As far as self-effects, I want to elaborate a little further:

I tested the 286 & 284 a couple of weeks ago and also had a constant headache during that time, although it wasn’t as severe as what I’ve had with Mx282. At that time, I had chalked the headaches up to pollen season so I had decided to give myself a 2 week break from this test mix. No headaches during that down-time, until I started testing the Mx282.

I was really tired while wearing Mx286, a little less with Mx284, and have been wearing Mx282 for the past few days and can say that I’ve been feeling a bit in the dumps.

I have about 1/2 a bottle left of the Mx282 and I’ve decided that I’m going to shelve this one. Maybe another time, another place.

BTW: I was not wearing these with any other pheros.

Sun lotion… I like coconut actually, the oil anyway, as the ingredient in sun lotion. Sun lotion combines well with Ishine and helps slow the diffusion of the volatile TAA molecule. Nice big hit, sorry to hear about your headaches - I had one after spraying Ishine in my hair (lol, what a stink that was) but have been lucky otherwise. Reps for a good report and I hope you have better luck with it next time.
But yeah, coconut smell combines with Ishine to make something IMO very nice smelling and not “weird” like Ishine alone.

Usually I like the scent too, but I dunno…maybe it’s just irritating because of the headache…

Hmm… this is odd. How do you get on with the Instant line of products then? I mean I got the one headache with Instant Shine, but I guess I only had myself to blame, for spraying the stinky stuff in my hair, which is reasonably long. It was like being trapped in a car with one of those early morning commuters who spray tons of perfume on! I got hyper (more mentally than physically) on my first Instant Openness experience, and “crashed” but still felt contented afterwards, it wasn’t like a hangover or anything.

These MX’s might have something in common, or might be very strong in phero per spray content, I dunno. Does it say anything on the bottom of the bottles?

I LOVE Ishine and get the best self-effects from it! It’s a real mood lifter for me. I’ve been pretty careful with Instant Honesty as one time I sprayed a bunch on and got really bitchy…my guessing that with regards to that experience, I must have been in a bad mood anyways and the Honesty just made me vocal about it. I still use that but usually spray it on the back of my neck to help minimize the self-effects.

As for these new Mx’s I’m assuming that since they come in a pack, there’s some common pheros in them. I’m pretty sure they contain some cops but that doesn’t give me headaches as I have Instant Sexiness 20X and love that too with no bad effects.

They come in TOGO’s with no ingredient info printed on them…as there shouldn’t be, considering these are test mixes.

My body isn’t liking something in these.

Yeah, having a headache is not going to help with congruence I guess. If I had an Ishine headache in public, I’d be less attuned to hits, in fact I’d be rushing home to lie down. They do say on this forum, “drink plenty of water”. I forget to, but I didn’t last weekend with my biggest combo yet, my body reminded me to hydrate myself that time.

I do drink lots of water…part of my new re-dedication to my lovely self, if you will.:slight_smile:

Besides the obvious “because it’s good for you” reason, why is this important for phero use? I’ll have to do a little research thru the forum for this…

Good question. I dunno really, I just remembered the advice last weekend. I don’t normally drink that much water as such, I kind of forget to, but I was quite thirsty last weekend, I thought it was my sense of thirst trying to tell me something. I was wearing quite a combo - 4x A314, 4x TUTH, 3x IO, 40mcg beta-androstenol, and 6x Ishine (I covered/mixed in with the sun lotion with that last one).

Wow! You didn’t scare anyone off with that much A314 and TUTH? But maybe all that Shine countered that?

Do you think the heaviness of the sun lotion suffocated the effects of the pheros quite a bit? I’m always afraid to wear too much lotion over the top for fear of doing just that.

Well, leading up to that, I had an excellent week of phero testing with quite a few hits. Something inside me told me I could get away with it :slight_smile: I was prepared to play the part with congruency*, and the biggest point I think, as I posted elsewhere, is that I was socially proofed and not a lone wolf. There were women at the party who knew me well, good friends who were obviously surprised - but in a good way - by my “transformation”:slight_smile: So, it’s like other people see me socially proofed and, even with all the -none, it’s like I must be OK, and I certainly act nice and friendly to everyone as always, I just have a powerful aura :smiley:

Most estimates I have read on the forum put the useful life of a Shine app at about 2 and a half hours, so I wanted to slow it a bit. It was actually just the Shine bit, on like the back of my neck mostly, and collar bones, that I covered with the sun lotion. To give it a chance at longevity coexisting with all the other elements. I will have to try it again solo to see how it affects diffusion and longevity. In fact, I’ll test it tomorrow, Sunday afternoon, weather is predicted to be sunny… why not? I’ll let you know how it goes!

  • I don’t mean I was acting like a sex maniac with all the -none, you know… The effect I’m going for is more of a guy who, well, has a powerful drive but a great deal of self-control! So I was just being cool, laid back, and letting the -none do its suggestive work for me, LOL.

Mmmmmm, ntk, with your self-description at the party you sound like a yummy treat, eye candy, ooooozzzzzing pure manly sexuality, a playboy…hi, my name is bond…james bond…you think I’m hot, don’t you…I know it, you know it…just keep on dreamin’ baby…

Yeowwzzzaaa!

Excuse me while I go wipe the drool…

Thank you very much for your kind words, River :slight_smile: I very much felt like I was in some sort of movie, very “larger than life” and kind of, like, elemental… it is the beta-androstenol component to the mix that really sort of gives it a “mystical” quality. Betanol is absolutely indispensible to my major combos I have decided. It’s seriously deep stuff!

I am recalling the finer details bit by bit, there was a kind of “blur” effect with the self-effects of such a large combo where I could drift around on this cloud of awesomeness, and just charm people. OK, I genuinely felt like the male equivalent of a “10” for the first time ever, it was so cool. I didn’t have to worry about “game” or coming up with clever things to say, they just happened. In fact I recall things I said/did every now and then and think “wow, I couldn’t have scripted that” LOL :smiley:

I remember I could make people turn around just by standing about 3 feet behind them; the funny thing is the person would just turn around and commence talking like it was the most natural thing in the world, they were not weirded out by my ability to make my presence felt from behind them.

Seems to me that you’ve found “THE ONE”…the one combo you can never do without!

Do you find that betanol “deepens” the effects of A314 and Shine?

I’m curious…do you know if the effects of physically mixing the beta androstenol with the alpha are the same as applying them to your body separately or on top of one another? (Openess is 70%A, 30%B). Or is there some metabolic change when they’re mixed?

Would you get a similar effect if, say instead of the Betanol and IO, you use approx 5 sprays Instant Honesty? The Alpha to Beta androstenol ratio would be slightly different (approx 9 mcg of Alphanol less, if I did my math correctly :slight_smile: ) but would the effects essentially be the same? Would your mix have the same “mystical” quality by using Honesty in lieu of the Beta-An and Openess?

Inquiring minds want to know…

I kind of added the IO as an afterthought, because I was going all-out with my combo anyway. But I have actually worn betanol on its own, or not with any IO anyway, and I like the results it gives that way too. It is quite possible that IH would give the same effect. But I sprayed the IO closer to my clavicle, and the betanol was under and on my chin, because I like it right where I can “smell” it - the self effects are just amazing I find. Although I actually smell very little, but it works all the same…

Betanol made me feel like A314 and TUTH were like guardian angels or something! Old friends who had my back. It is seriously mystical stuff.

But I still have a use for IO, just as a part of combos that give it more depth. Whereas I’d happily wear betanol solo. Just because of the self effects, if nothing else. It’s like a connection to lots of happy childhood memories too, that just pop up at random. I need to do more experiments using the IO to prime the betanol, for sure, see how it affects things. I’ll spray them on the same place to see how it flies.

OK, as promised, I’m doing the Ishine/sun lotion mix today! I’ll let you know how it goes.

Instant Shine/sun lotion mix… results inconclusive. OMG no hits today! Ah, nevermind, can’t win 'em all… I have been quite INTP’d out today, very introspective. But I’m still feeling residually good from the past week’s hits and self-effects so, I dunno, hard to tell what the Shine was doing.

6 sprays and 1 blob of sun lotion. Half an hour of feeling majestic. Went out and enjoyed the sunshine. I think I really see the Ishine effect in a more pronounced way when the weather is actually pretty bad, cos I can certainly tell the difference after spraying.

All I can think of is James Bond in a Superman cape…the man of every girl’s dreams…Mr. McDreamy, personified…confident, witty, charming, mysterious, and sexy…so damned sexy it makes your head spin…

LOL…I can’t help it, but now that’s how I think of you ntk! Guilty by assiciation, I guess :slight_smile:

sgorban got a ghosting effect from wearing A314 with so much TUTH (Noobie combos and psycological edge) but I guess it just goes to show that everybody’s reaction to pheros is different and what works for one may not work for another.

Sounds like you’ve got yourself a “wingman”!

Do you suppose the 1/2 hr of feeling majestic was because of the initial “cloud” of Shine when you sprayed it on, and then the sun lotion smothered it too much since you didn’t get any further reactions to it?

It is harder to tell the phero reaction apart from the “feel good” natural reaction to sunshine and good weather although sometimes, if I use a lot, I actually get a slight “buzz”.

Definitely merits additional testing, that’s for sure. Keep me posted.

Thanks for the feedback River :smiley:

confident, witty, charming, mysterious, and sexy… A five-element bunch of attributes to convey. I should say I have been naturally good at “witty” and “charming” for a good deal of my life. But I have been rather like the guy who wears Instant Gentleman solo without adding some more “edgy” phero products, I think. What I mean is that, historically, guys have always regarded me as alpha, and women as like a “nice guy” type of alpha who gets shunted into the “friend zone”. I could not quite understand it myself, but I have learned an awful lot from this site.

So I can wear the -none in quite large doses, because my personality offsets it considerably. If other people are actually getting the same “mysterious” deep effects from the betanol as I am, that’s pretty awesome too. I see a role for P74 in all of this too. Now that is a confidence builder. For approaching and talking to absolutely anyone, in any numbers; should I ever have to do a public speech, I am going to spray 30 mcg of P74 for sure.

Of course, there is a little getting used to the self effects of -none too, so that now I am more used to it, I don’t fear the OD. My early experiences with it were half “I want to approach her NOW!!” and half “oh, I feel like such a caveman, this isn’t really me, I’d feel clumsy and inarticulate!” So it gets more integrated. As does A314.

The wingman analogy is right! Even before the betanol was added, I felt like I had a “spirit wingman” with me sometimes :slight_smile: And of course there are some people who will hit it off with their wingman straight away, and get powerful results immediately on their first application. Others take a while to get to know their wingman. I feel I’ve had a pretty good run up the learning curve so far, with a lot more surprises to come.

I suppose the initial Instant Shine hit could have been from standing in the spray cloud, or simply anticipation of going out in the sunshine, or a bit of both. I did notice I was very sensitive to noise yesterday, didn’t feel like covering my ears with my hands or anything, but I was easily distracted by a comparatively mild commotion, just everyday hustle and bustle. I might have to fill up an empty to-go with Instant Shine actually, and do the “top-up” thing on the move, instead.

In fact, the previous Sunday (and it was the day after my large combo, too, so my senses were still reeling :slight_smile:) I tried out P79 on a nice sunny afternoon, and certain elements were much the same, except I wasn’t sensitive to noise. So it might just be a lazy Sunday feeling, when I get introspective.

Is it possible for you to spray MX282 exclusively to the back of your hair or something? Now you know what it smells like, that is. Maybe you could try a wrist-only application, but one never knows how many times a day one is lifting the wrist up to nose level, until of course there is something at stake like a headache. I suppose every time you lifted a glass to drink from it you risk exposing yourself to the headache effect. Or do you think that you might still be able to smell the coconut even though it is sprayed to the back of you?

Ahhhhh…the dreaded “friend zone”. Been there, done that. Life is so much more exciting when the opposite sex find you confident, witty, charming, mysterious, and sexy :smiley:

Very interesting. I’ve just ordered a couple of putatives to start experimenting with. They should be here any day now. I’m sooooo excited!!!

Funny you should mention this. Just this morning, I was digging thru my stash of little bottles and pulled out the MX282 again and decided that I would give it another try. I had already sprayed on MX285 (no headache, just a “heavy-head” kind of feeling like I didn’t get enough sleep or something), so I’ve decided to try this again tomorrow. I’ve done the wrist-only application and which was actually my first-day test. But I will try what you suggested and apply to the back of my hair and see what happens. I’ll risk another headache and martyr myself for the sake of science. :wink: Lucky for me, there’s a little wonder drug called Tylenol!

Great stuff! What P’s are you getting? I’ve got P79 and P74 myself. P74 with Instant Shine, or even on its own, is like some playful, fun confidence potion for both men and women (all the ingredients are unisex).

For me, P74, going back to the wingman analogy, it’s almost like having a gay wingman, a guy who wouldn’t feel under pressure or stress approaching women because there is nothing at stake. I can feel the attraction for the women still on one level, but on another there’s this “what the heck, let’s have fun!” vibe that drives the social interaction, it’s like act first, think (“Oh, did I really just approach those women?”) later.

P79 I’m still trying to get a handle on, it is interesting and does indeed seem to enhance the power of even modest combos, like monosodium glutamate as one poster said.

I think I’ll be making my fourth order sometime around Christmas, as a present to myself. Getting into the idea of mixing, and having little to-gos with awesome formulas in them. Until then… I’ve got plenty of stuff to play with. I like to window shop at the Androtics site :slight_smile:

I’m getting P79, P83, and P100.

LOL. Gay wingman, huh? :smiley: