Mx297 good enough to be Ammo 2.0?

Its on the way. (rubbing hands in glee… cant wait :stuck_out_tongue:)

Very much possible. Its time I brought it down from 2-3 shots to 1 :roll_eyes:

I am not certain about what individual molecules do but can say that “Add some alpha maleness + a dash of sexual pull” …stirred together and left to simmer will make 297 the ultimate phero in the market with the most In the Face results.

Guys, I’m sorry to thread n’ run, but I really need to dedicate all of today and tomorrow (Thursday and Friday) to helping Jacob and Ben clear out their queue, and to retrain them a bit. This may also take up my weekend. I can’t handle calls, pms, or even normal forum usage while working on orders.

Our new office space is broken up into more pieces than the last one, and it seems to be getting in the way a bit. I really need to work on the flow here, so office issues (mostly involving custom order flow) can stop sidetracking me.

While I may be nearly silent for awhile, I’ve appreciated all the feedback here. If you’d all be so kind, please keep the thread lives with suggestions, especially tested MX297 and P74 based mixes. Those will be a prime priority when I get back.

Remember, my new position here is really as Innovation Manager only, to deal exclusively with things like this. Yes, I just got finished formulating and restocking the past few days, which technically isn’t what I do anymore. It’s almost a shame I know how to handle other things, but once everyone is retrained I’ll do my best focus on my tasks and to let other people do what they do. :smiley:

Thanks!

I think how it is is fine now. The more attention and respect people get with the mix as it stands would be enough to have “proof”. As a soft launch, I think its good enough to do it with.

Adding more molecules on could probably be a benefit, but also remember that most people that order this would probably not be as well versed on this as forum members. Shock and awe to them would be how we all felt when we started using MX297, then we read reports, and found other cool stuff, and some of the noteriety deteriorated.

But as a first product, not for us, but for someone new, I think its perfect the way it is. For us if they launch something for us to test it with, something else that would have a slow release effect would help, especially with the close exposures you get from being around MX297.

I agree completely, and i would be adding my good experiance with Mx297 as a standalone and how that helped me take the first step into starting to believe in mones. Its going to have to be on sunday or monday, depends on when i have time to post it, pretty long.

MX297 really helped me with speed dating - had the most success I’ve ever had in terms of matches…

With some new girlies / potential lovers, I have MX297 to have a magnetic pull in girl approach you effect. Once I was laying down on a bed at a friends summer house, and this girl jumped right in it to TALK to me to see a picture on my phone…It was the middle of the day and people were all around so it wasn’t a sexual thing. More of a “I trust you to be in your bed and talk to you kind of thing”

At a bar, I met this girl, who was into me putting my arm around her, sitting on the couch and talking but not kissing…

Actually, I have never “gotten some” wearing mx297… Does it have its place? YES! It’s good for speed dating, first dates, friends, and family…

I think it would make a solid commercial product because it would help avoid new user risk of ODing on too much none compared to other products.

Hi there jasmin.
I would love to see MX297 released on a larger scale it’s perfect as it is.
However i have a few concerns;
To my memory i read that it would be either like MX297 or similar.
When you say similar what type of changes should we expect to see, im an avid fan of MX297 and really enjoy it’s effects as is. Will this remain in aukto?
Also i was wondering that if the ammo 2.0 release becomes a variation of MX297 does that mean we should expect the death of this certain MX?
One more tiny thing, If Androtics markets this out to an even “LARGER” consumer base then soon enough im sure alot of people will be wearing these types of products and there will be no point in wearing mones as everybodyelse’s signature is on crack.

Just my two cents, other then that
Love the product
Love the company <3

Cheers Jasmin xx

I thought the same thing, except IG is a bit more “boring” LOL However, she isn’t looking to release SEXY or anone heavy products

Now I’m scared…I love MX297 I don’t want ANYONE else having it!!! Esp. not the stinking public jerks…awww man. Okay anyway. I’ll just have to accept it.

Too bad most of them prolly won’t be congruent with the signal.

Consumers who don’t do research are more likely to not escalate, establish kino, and just not know what to do in general. They’ll see the attraction, and they’ll like it, but they won’t necessarily get a girl over you. You’ll have the confidence and knowledge base of the members here to help you out as well. My friend and I consistently go out with almost the same mixes, sometimes different, and on the interactions with women we’re together in, it’s a close tie.

We still have -none products to play with :wink: I don’t know why people get scared of using them. I REALLY like the attention I get with -none :smiley:

Jas, could you please explain this statement?

In order:
No objections whatsoever.
No comparison possible. 297 kicks all ass for me.
297 is in a class by itself, so yes, it’s class leading.
Work safe is tricky, as some of the other posters have mentioned. Not so good if your coworkers need to concentrate.
Only good things have come from family and friends for me. The star vibe works incredibly well if you get congruent with it.

And my favorite, yes, women love it and it is a vibe that pulls all ages from 20’s through 40’s. As one friend put it ‘you are the coolest guy in the room’. He knew what I was wearing and has served as a valuable wingman on quite a few of my test runs. It’s interesting how many women will watch, stare, or otherwise lust after you after you turn your back.

I found this mx to be easily customizable but like some of the other posters, shine tends to soften it a bit much though I only have 4x so its hard for me to get a read on lighter applications. Adding two shots of TUTH, one to the wrists and one to the neck, turns this mix sexual and makes steering the interactions incredibly easy (note that I am 48, work out regularly and take good supplements). You already know whats on everybodys mind and they really want to hear whats on yours.

Conclusion: I need a 5 gallon drum.

What’s your application spots, and how many sprays of 297 do your wear with TUTH, Cinci?

Thanks for another idea.

You’re very welcome. I find three sprays to be my sweet spot, two to the wrists and one to the throat.

MX297 could certainly be the next Ammo!

I think that the confidence is the strongest component to Ammo. Everyone I have recommended too has displayed unusual confidence. However when I have a friend who buys a 30ml or tests it regularly they find the androstenone content unsettling. They actually become nervous at times or feel stress when using it. MX297 has not had that overpowering androstenone, it is well buffered. The confidence is still right there, and it’s not as in your face, it’s a sophisticated confidence as opposed to Ammo’s raw courage. The come down of a night of repeated ammo use is hard, frequently I would come home from a night at the bars very frustrated. Not only because my -none frustration at the bar had pushed people away, but also because the buffers faded faster than the -none. MX297 has a smooth cool-off. This makes it very usable in a number of situations. Ammo currently stays as when i’m on “the prowl”. I would say 297 could be a fantastic evolution from ammo as it is now.

For the attraction purposes, Ammo has been hit and miss. The high androstenone makes older women aroused, and for a younger guy this may not be what they are seeking. It seems that only a portion of women are actually attracted to Ammo. The rest are either put off or attracted to the confidence. I have been in a number of situations wearing Ammo where the feedback from women has been negative. “I didn’t like you because you seemed like such a player!”. I have even had women tell me I am making them uncomfortable, and that I seem cocky. These are the furthest from who I am, as I strive to make people comfortable around me. I also know that confidence is much different than cockiness, so it’s always a surprise when this happens.

For guys in a relationship, they are going to find MX297 wins hands down vs. ammo. Ammo in a relationship has caused as many problems as it has created opportunities. Jealousy is always a neighbour to the attraction caused by Ammo, whereas MX297 encourages closeness, respect and can even make a girlfriend clingy. She wants to be next to you always!

As far as sexuality goes between the two mixes, I find that sexuality with Ammo is playing with fire. The negatives that exist within the mix make it a tricky trade-off for the odd chance that a woman ovulating is going to do something far out of the ordinary to get your attention.

The sexuality with MX297 is compatible with who I am. I have control and can ramp it up if I want to. The sexual attraction with Ammo is raw and almost animal.

I think that the sexual attraction is what most are seeking when they are first introduced to Ammo. It might take a few iterations before getting that sexual tension right for a first time user, however I’m positive it will be successful.

I think having AMMO or AMMO + IS is VERY useful, esp for guys 25 years and older; of course, you might be really young and ammo does no good for you. Also, I don’t think ammo is that raw, heh. You should try 2x TUTH or Project UF and then tell me what is REALLY raw :wink:

Mx297 is probably more work and day-time safe, but it doesn’t necessarily beat out AMMO or TUTH at bars. They have different purposes and usefulness.

Personally, I have met MANY girls using AMMO, AMMO + IS or AMMO + IH or AMMO + IH + IS, and I have gotten dates from a lot of them. Maybe, ammo alone could be too much, but I don’t know. I am not built like hulk, so a bit of -none probably helps.

Additionally, when you get to know a woman in the beginning, you would want SOME sexual tension and attraction. It most likely help prevent you from being friend-zoned.

In shorts, it all depends on WHAT YOU WANT and YOUR PERSONALITY. Really. However, I do agree that for the mass release, ammo 1.0 should not be released - and 2.0 should have VERY LITTLE -none - so I, as well as us TRUE pheromone experts, would not lose any SEXUAL EDGE. LOL.

I didn’t say it wasn’t useful, I was saying that it has it’s positive and negative sides. With MX297 it’s mostly positive. Believe me, I have tried a lot of androstenone. I’m 27, one year younger than you.

My opinion is of course subjective and based on my personality and experiences. I came to the conclusions I have about Ammo after using it for 2 years in different strengths and in three different scent packages (original, game, ff22). The confidence it supplies is huge, and probably why you and I have met many women while using it. I think the confidence carries over to MX297 too.

I also mentioned that the sexual part of MX297 could be improved, because that’s what a first time user is seeking!!! I’m hoping to try Project UF soon.

I just read this entire thread and decided to bump it.

Are the any updates to be shared about this mx297(390?)/AD/Ammo2.0 story?

Very smart words!! Very smart indeed.

No doubt, I agree