Felt dread at going to work today, needed to meet with interim admin. to discuss strange and upsetting accusations of things that I know I didn’t do, and would never do. I believe that the part-time person in my department is after my job, and is bad mouthing me. The admin. doesn’t know me that well, has never even bothered to try (you guys know me better than she does, so what does that say?).
Almost immediately after spraying (which I did just after arriving at work), I felt better, and less “bothered” by the bs.
Effects on others:
Patients were extremely warm and friendly, all beaming happily as they left. One woman hugged me, and another put her arm around me as I walked her to the door. Touchy-feely.
A female co-worker who basically ignores me actually smiled at me.
Another female co-worker, when I went to the office, came by me by the copier, giggled and whispered conspiratorially to me about how it sucks here, but we just need to smile smile smile (and she doesn’t even know about my current bs)
Well… what did the admin say?? I have a similar situation I should post about.
I’m surprised people are getting such good effects from mixing MX134 and MX135 or IS/A and IS/B. To me, I would think they kind of cancel each other out… either that or bring on an OD.
I never got to meet with her until just a little while ago. Like, 5 minutes ago. In fact she surprised me by coming into my office just as I was writing this report, and no, I’m not slacking, my work is caught up.
My pheros had pretty much worn off, and I was debating whether I should re-apply the same mix, or use something different. So I think she caught me naked, or close to it.
I told her my concerns, but she seemed to be in a hurry, and just said that these things were what she had been told, but wouldn’t tell me by whom. I told her that I am not even capable of those behaviors, and that if i really did do those things, I would have admitted to it. Because thats how I am. If I did something wrong, I’ll fess up. Anyone who knows me at all knows that I am totally straight up.
I think the MX135 helped to take the “edge” off the MX300, while still leaving the toughness and decreased sensitivity to personal insults and hurts.
mm yeah that sounds like a good mix. like ariadne, i was wondering whether if it would clash it.. but i kinda feel like the stronger mix would prevail in that situation. but of course, im not so sure..
i do rmr when i tried out TAH, i did not get along with it at all, so i used to spray some TAL on my face to even out the effects.
but p74 is a great one no matter what u mix it with
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I’ll have to keep that in mind… I should try your mix tomorrow.
If you have another meeting of this kind coming up, I’d be interested in hearing what you think of the mix I tried today (I just posted about it - I'm a badass at this here job, no one better mess with me mix) if you have the molecules to replicate it.
MX335 is MX135, except that it smells like grapefruit instead of chocolatini.
I did try it by itself (as MX135), at first with not much success. I did finally have a time when I had some minimal effects and self effects, posted in this report - MX135. I ran out of my To-Go of it, then ordered the MX335 because I really like the grapefruit scent also..
I feel as though I had better results when I mixed them for some reason
It is a very interesting development to learn that these can be mixed with such interesting results. On the one hand you would think they cancel each other out like Ariadne has stated above, and on the other hand very interesting.
I think what might be happening is that you are in effect doubling the core pheromones of the mixes (I would presume they start out the same) and then compliment them with the molecules that make them unique.
I’m wondering if something like A314 and IG could be worn together and to what affect.
Not to hijack Silly kitty’s thread but here’s what the store says Steve, my experience and a number of reports agree. I have found that personally I prefer alternating A314 and IG rather than wearing them at the same time but a lot of guys prefer combining.
The half and half and half thing may be something for the ladies to consider when combining theirs.
Perhaps one would then be like “the stern but fatherly figure”..???
Why not try it and see what you get?
I’ll try it, but I still need to try my “men’s” pheros on their own, just to see what effects, if any, would work on me. Also, I don’t have much A314, just a little bit someone sent me (since AD doesn’t sell small sizes of that)
I don’t think pheromones ever really cancel each other out. But I do notice a big difference in self-effect depending on how I layer them. Whatever goes on first seems to determine the way the mix will go.
I think we all can agree that different pheromones affect us differently. Some of these seem to affect the RAS, some of them the GABA systems, some the norepinephrine cascades. In normal everyday functioning these systems are all in a balance, but can be tipped one way or another depending on what external or internal stimulus they get. Endorphins get released, or adrenaline, or whatever. If you have a ton of endorphins running around in your system, you are less likely to get an overwhelming fight or flight response from minor stimulation. Likewise, if you are in fight or flight mode, you are less likely to get an endorphin release and the pleasure you feel from that.
Pheromones, likewise, tip the balance on way or another, or potentiate a cascade or another… they affect our brain chemistry. Some are calming. Some are exciting.
For example, if I use P87, P100, P107, etc., and then layer on any or all of the pheromones that normally give me such body rushes and pleasurable responses, like Meo-Est, TAC, P102, P103, ect., they don’t work. P87 robs me of positive emotional response and P100 and P107 give me an amphetamine response.
Very interesting, but I would have to disagree here. If what your saying is true, then by that factoid it would require formulation of mixes in a precise order every time to get the same results, otherwise they wouldn’t work.
Do mixes that are mixed together before application have a different effect than items that are applied separately in layers?
If “wet” molecules are intermingling together in a bottle, might they change in some way to become something totally different than their parts, or the sum of their separately-applied-and-allowed-to-dry parts??
And might there be a difference between letting each thing dry before applying the next one, and just spraying “wet” over “wet”?
This is really very interesting and I’d like to see this topic continue to be addressed. Diane? Steve? Tisha? Other brilliant folk?
I for one, agree with Diane’s theory. I’ve also experienced that phenomenon. Wearing P87, ie, then spraying TAA did nada. Wearing a complex mix, then adding p87 allowed the mix to shine, but gave me a mental clarity/objectivity that was incredible.
I’m not quite sure what you were trying to get at Steve… “the same way” as in put in the bottle in the lab the same way each time? (well, I would hope so, otherwise we could end up with another Mutant A314!) Or the same way as in layered the same on an individual? If you wear a complex mix, you then get the same results whether you apply component a or component b or component c first or in the middle or at the end?
On that note, are your mixes symphonic? Or do they contrast?
Yes, for me the self-effects of wearing mixes is way different from layering, and a lot depends on the layering order, and time between layers. Wearing the mixes is consistent time after time.
P80 is a good example. If I put it on first and wait 5 to ten minutes before adding my other components, the physical responses I get are very ramped up in a nice way! If I put P80 on last, the P80’s effects of physical excitation are muted way down.
Well, here you’re neglecting the effect of the additional carrier in additional sprays. if you spray on 12.5 mcg of one thing, followed by 12.5 of another thing it’s different that if you had one spray that contained 12.5mcg of both.
You also get different concentrational areas on the skin
When dealing with more complicated mixes, things get even wackier.
Interesting Diane. Does it also work like that on your husband when you put P80 on last - that P80’s effects of physical excitation are muted way down?
diane999 (February 22, 2009):
"P80 feels like what I imagine a high dosage shot of pure testosterone would feel like. It is a real powerhouse, and I really get into the physical side of this molecule. It has all the pluses of Androstenone with none of the side effects.
And actually, I’m not so sure this is an actual masculine pheromone. It feels masculine, sure. But my husband is not repulsed by me wearing it, like he gets when I wear -none. With -none he rarely wants to stay in the same section of the house with me, even when I’m doused in EST .
With P80, the effects on him are similar to its effects on me, namely increased arousal to physical stimulation, increased levels of excitement, increased excitability, stronger heart beat and heart rate in response to stimulation, increased control-taking aggression without anger or rage, and increased interest in life.
If it is a masculine pheromone it is definitely alpha, like Androsterone, but younger, more vibrant than Androsterone. And like Androsterone, this doesn’t inhibit camaraderie with other alphas or elicit anger and rage displays the way Androstenone can. And it has none of the irritability factor that tater talked about and I’ve seen with P83. It is smooth.
I’m not sure this is a pheromone that many women would get into and enjoy. I do, but then again, I like competition, and have never been afraid to stand on my own two feet and compete with the boys. My only problem is that the Spartan Warrior feel of this pheromone, when worn alone, could be very addicting to me. I guess I should refer to it as the Amazon Warrior feel in my case. P80 has a sense of justice and duty to it and the power to back it that I find very appealing.
Oh, yeah! It is definitely alpha - male or female.
TAL - I find it makes me irritable even at low doses. I haven’t layered it much. TAA might be a better choice for me if I wanted to lower the P80 signature a bit… or I could up the dosage of P96… or I could just wear less P80.. heh.
Actually, I’m not going to change this mix. I designed it as a sexy mix. The high dosage of P80 in this regard instigates and supports some pretty interesting bed games… call it friendly competition. The ratios seem just about right.
(and she doesn’t even know about my current bs)
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