MX390, IS and Ammo at a 3:3:2 ratio: happy hour report, success or not?

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:open_mouth:As part of me experimenting the MX297/MX390, I decided to try one of the mixes I saw at the MX297 Repository thread (as indicated by the title). I used it @ 3:3:2 ratio.

So I’d like to see what others think and if they think it was a success or failure? Personally, I don’t think I got the hits I expected (at least not as others have received). So I was disappointed.

The first setting was a bar. I applied the mix around 4:00pm and headed to meet up with my current project group. Now I’ve only been only helping them with a very minor task for about 2 weeks, yet was invited. It was a “Project Holiday” happy hour.I was there for only an hour and half, yet it seemed longer. Most of the group was people of all ages, races and genders. Non was in their 20s. Here are some hits:

  • As soon as I walked in, they cheered and clapped hands “YAY MO is here” and I was greeted and with a tight/squeeze hug by the Project manager (who is nice looking lady in her 40s). One gal said jokingly “How come no one else clapped and was this excited when others walked in?”
  • The same PM was talking to me and another person, but she just kept looking at me and the other person feeled ignored.
  • The business sponsor (who is also forking the bill for the night) came up to me and asked “So you are working on two projects I’m sponsoring, what is it you do?” and he was very interested in what I do. He is a joker so I kept the convo full of funny comments and remarks, and he said “You are not right”. :slight_smile:
  • A young gentleman who was quite reserved, sitting in the corner all silent, opened up and started to talk as soon as I got him engnaged. He was really funny once I got him going.
  • Got invited to smoke..lol yet I don’t smoke and they knew that.
  • Got another hug by the PM as I was leaving and saying “Thank you for showing up, you made a difference”
  • Waitresses were totally not paying attention to my orders, unless I grabbed their attention. I am used to this place usually checking up regularly if anything else is needed, especially with me.

Heading on to second function, it was a “friendly” get together with friends (who are ex-coworkers), and we met since some of them came to town for the holidays. It was @ The Boneyard. The place was not as crowded as it normally is for a Thursday night, especially for the holidays. But non-the less there were a few private parties (21st birthday and a x-mar party to name a few near where I was). This group is different than the other group. All caucasian males and females, ages between mid 20-late 40s. When I arrived there, the greeting I got was COLD. Some of the guys said “Hey Mo” and shook my hand as if they see me every day. I was introduced to some guys who I never met before (and those were some of the most obvious hits I got), my ex-manager gave me a hug that was cold (as opposed to how she normally is when she seems me). So here are some of the hits/non-hits that I received from this setting:

  • COLD greeting when I got there, exception of one female friend who is attractive and dating my friend.
  • One girl who I pursued in the past for a whole 1 week about 7 years ago immediatly said “This is my husband” when she saw me. She is newly wed.
  • The “husband” started to talk to me and noticed him to keep looking at me from time to time when I was another subset of the group (obvious hit). He was friendly and outgoing and we talked briefly a few times. Very nice guy.
  • Another person I was introduced to that night also (seemed very alpha) was rather calm after I got there (another obvious hit). He talked to me and was interested in what I had to say.
  • A young lady who arrived later (wife of a friend, and the sister of another friend) didn’t remember me from before and she was one of the most obvious hits from any female that was there within proximity. lots of eye contact and getting caught staring at me.
  • An older lady kept grabbing her chest saying “X-Large” as she was near me, and was eating the shrimp in a very provacative way. Her husband was sitting behind me minding his own business, and was OK with that :open_mouth:
  • The waitress (cute and her in 20s) was totally blowing me off, even when I was trying to be friendly with her while sitting at the bar. YET…when my married friend stopped over, she would remember his name and kinda flirt with him. WTF?:angry: (Negative Hit)
  • I was total ghost to the tables next to us (with the parties). Not one single eye contact

As the night progressed, at around 9:30ish. My ex-manager and her old “team” we huddled around one table and we started talking and laughing and enjoying ourselved, but at that point I was in a “BLAH” mode (similar to the “tired” mood I felt before when I applied MX390 the other day). Now I couldn’t attribute this to the fact I had 3 drinks on an almost empty stomach, or if it was because I was bummed for the lack of results I was expecting from the mix?

By the time it was time for me to go, my ex-manager was dancing and being fiesty as she normally is, and when I left she gave me a few tight hugs and saying “I love you” :confused:, and she wants to meet up soon for lunch.

So I know that a hit is a hit, and not all are positive. Even though I wasn’t trying to PU anyone that night, but I was expecting some IOI from people around me, especially that I was giving some form or smile and nods if an occasional look happend to be my way, and usually that works and helps open conversations, especially with single females (instead I got married guys). Bummer of it all is the cutie waitress that blew me off, who I thought I could try go get engaged in a convo, but she just kept moving to other sides of the counter.

So this is my report and feedback is always welcome

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Honestly, sounds like a pretty good night. It sounds like it took time either for the mones to diffuse, or it took a while for people to warm up to them. I always get better hits from stangers then people that know me.

Now it’s possible that your attitude could have affected the effects of the mones. It’s also possible that you OD on enone. I don’t know. I wouldnt’ sweat it. Honestly unless you are testing for reporting or are just enjoy tracking everything I would forget about the hits spray on mones and enjoy life. That’s really when things work the best anyway.

Oh one more thing. Younger women sometimes have a hard time with enone.

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Not sure if my attitude tonight was any different than any other night when I go out Friendly, outgoing, and just myself, in total control of any situation. The “disappointment” was after the night was over, as I was going home and reflecting on the results I had. So in no shape did it affect my “performance” if that’s the word to choose :stuck_out_tongue:.

I might have to agree that I might’ve ODed with the MX390, but I from my own experience and others reporting, its like a more social A314, and with the fact I’m using IS on top of it and Ammo, I didn’t think it would actually be possible.

Oh and my moto in like is “Hakuna Matata” :smiley: So I’m living life and loving it!!

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Hey Morphious! May I know the exact details on how you opened the cute waitress? When you mean “trying to be friendly” what did you do?

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I’m not sure I understand your question. I will clarify what you are trying to get at by asking “how does someone open somoene?” And waht are you trying to find out exactly?

Opening a set involves lots of things. Attitude, approach, setting, personality…etc, and each set is opened up differently.

But I will answer your question by saying that bartneder/waitress was working behind the counter where I was sitting, and opened her up by very simple “Hi, how are you?” and asking for her name, and giving her my name. The very simple and basic approach. I wasn’t trying to pick her up, but she was intriguing to me, and I would’ve escalated if she wasn’t working or a different setting.

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MX390 has more ~none in it then A314 does. Also AMMO has ~none. You may not have OD’ed. It could have just been unattractive to her. Maybe she was on her cycle. Not everyone likes ~none. Not everyone likes MX390/297. Hell not everyone likes AMMO. Could even be the scent. Who knows? What I’m saying is you got hits from everyone else. Don’t get distracted by the negative hits. Maybe try one shot of MX390 next time. Or maybe add another buffer like IH.

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Hmmm for some reason maybe my report sent the wrong message that I was disappointed because of the waitress? I think it was a few negative hits that bothered me.

So it wasn’t just that one incident!! Just multiple things :slight_smile:

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No I understand that. It’s just the easy issue to target. I honestly think you got some great interactions. What I’m saying is there could be many many reasons that things didn’t go the way you expected them to.
Mones signal information about you. sometimes they are received positively, sometimes negatively. The affects could be:
Jealousy
anger
fear
intimidation

or it could be all positive. I read your post as a mostly positive experience. I like all of the hits I get postive and negative, male and female. Lead the men, and the women often follow.

So what I’m saying is you never know what was going on. The first group aplauded you, the second one gave you a cold greeting. Who knows why. Could be your vibe, or it could be them. Maybe they had an argument before you showed up. There are just too many variables.

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I think it might have been the Ammo, yeah.

I tried this mix today as well (ain’t that a fun coincidence?) and think I got ghosted. I don’t know, some people say there’s -None in MX297, and others say that there isn’t.
But judging by what I saw today, I’ll go ahead and assume that there is.

I mean, there must be. I only sprayed Ammo once, and I was definitely ghosting. I guess I’ll have to cut it from the MX297 mix.

It’s a shame, FF21 and Akuto smell AWESOME together. :slight_smile:

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Awesome report again! :slight_smile: Keep it up! I have been playing with both of these (more so MX297 because I have more of it, I like my MX390 better :wink:) too, and it really never could let me down! It pairs really well with AMMO too!

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I actually did 2x ammo + 2x 297 + 2x IH and had pretty good results. Too good almost so I tried it again the next night with 1 spray a314b added and got ghosted big time. I’m thinking it’s not none.. I think it’s the erone. Well I shouldn’t say i got totally ghosted. I had hits but I definitely had an invisible bubble around me. I was standing at the well at a semi crowded bar and no one told me to move the entire time I was there. There was also a 3 foot minimum between me and the next person pretty much the whole time.

That was probably my first really obvious OD. Oh well, there’s always next week.

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Its a very detailed good report. I like how you successfully used the Ammo to steer it. I gave you my vote and reps. Great job

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After using up nearly 5 bottles of MX 297, I feel that there may not be much none in MX 297, if at all there is any. I have used upto 4 sprays of 297 with 2 sprays of Heavy AMMO (socials were IH and IS 2 each or more) and that probably gave me some of the best hits…I’ve even used 2 sprays of MX391 with 3 X 297 (thats some serious none we are talking about, or (2x MX 297+ 1X tuth at office) and never have I felt the OD effect… women were hunting me down like flies after spilled honey.

In my opinion, MX 297 is best used with strangers. In a situation where you dont know most people in the room, this MX can actually push you into the limelight get you some attention, get people to like you come to you and have a conversation, It also kills any of your inhibitions in opening up with strangers or taking the initiative… in other words, it can get you some friends in both sexes… (it gets you attention even if u try to be a wallflower)

For hit hunters MX 297 is the best. However, to those who are trying to get laid… I’d suggest.. use something else… I use none with Mx 297 so that the fire does not die… and once I soften my targets and get them to lower their defenses with 297, I can hit them where it matters..

I agree with josie here.. you got conflicting hits from the entire group, with positive hits from the first group and negative from the second (just to broadly classify them), maybe it has got to do with something that happened with group 2 before you got there… anyways, I’d suggest that you try it a few more times… before concluding… i know its hard to go back to the combo after a perceived negative hit.. but here i strongly suspect factors other than pheros for that

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Well, I am leaning towards that as well. Although, I will retest again to make sure of the results. What I find odd though is that my sweet spot with Ammo is 4 and MX290 is between 2-4, and I used of the Ammo, and toned the NONE down with IS for sure.

I did notice that, since there were about 5 or 6 individuals that I met in both groups that were easily conversed with (of which one was very shy, and the other was intimidating to others). However, the bartender was an exception to the rule.

I don’t think that was the case. The group was sitting in one area, all talking and enjoying themselves, but subdivided into 3 groups of 2-5 people each. I would consider them strangers since I haven’t seen them in months, so they are desensitized to my scent (not sure if that’s an accurate assumption).

That’s what I plan on doing, maybe with one less spray of MX297/MX390.

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It was the AMMO! I tested and tested and my research tells me heavy P91, no none and little of anything else, if anything else at all. Get yourself a bottle of P91 and scent it akuto and then tell me its not the same results to a T

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OK when you say P91 with Akuto gives me the same results to a T, what am I comparing it to exactly? Just clarifying

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Steve’s suggesting that MX 297 a.k.a MX 390 is P91 heavy

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Morphious - If its any help, I always found it better to add the likes of Ammo/TUTH/Androstenone a while (typically 2-4hrs) after the 297/390 - to take full advantage of its social/interaction/allure boosting properties first, then introduce a more sexual element when the time is right. :slight_smile:

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MX297 is heavy p91 you think? Does P91 not play well with others?