my first pheromone trip (a314, spaceland, instant shine)

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my experiences so far.
Maybe some wants to read it. Sorry for my bad english, it’s not my mother tongue.

A314, spaceland test
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1-3 drops of A314 (I didnt get how to use it yet)
2 1/2 shots of spaceland

I got some things to do in the city center.
So what did I see?
- The center of the city is full of people, who are shopping.
I am just walking my walk and people are avoiding me, going
out of my way in a good way.

**- **I sit down in bookstore reading a book. A few minutes later the
first woman sits to the left of me. Then the next on the right.
One of them is playing with her cellular phone, the other one is
doing nothing. I am sitting in the computer department - a part
of the store were normally no women would hang out.

**- **I go to the optician to get my contact lenses. The man is very
friendly, making jokes. Normally he is more serious, because it’s
one of the higher class store.

**- **Walking around I get a lot of eye contacts to cool people. It seems
like more cool people being around then normally. Put that maybe just
a change in my perception.

**- **I didnt see much sexual - but that is connected to the setting.

**- **Two children I saw were looking longer at me. One was very happy and
smiling, the other ones looked a little bit scared and the mother
looked at me like : “what have you done with my child?”

**- **Two times I saw doves arising when I walked - like in movies - maybe
coincidences. I dont know about birds and pheromones. When I walked
home I saw a raven. I didnt see a raven in my area for a longer time,
but this maybe weather dependent.

A314, spaceland instant shine

**- **did a lot of funny thing I normally would not do. Like walking
a few kilometers to get ice tea. The Spaceland thing is really very
relaxing, like some drug.

**- **I visited a friend. On the way to him I still saw more cool people
and higher class women looking at me. Lower class people and women
just looking away to the ground.

**- **Some girls at my friends flat are very giggly. They want to learn
math with him and dont remember what their homework was.
One of the girls has a sexual relationship with the friend of mine,
the other one is complaining about her boyfriend all the time :wink:
I smoked some cigarettes and was a little bit nervous after that.
And I didnt want to disturb them too much with spaceland while
doing important homework, so I left.

- Walking back home I feel not so good sometimes. Too much attention,
to which I am not used to. People still avoiding me in a good way
most of the time, but sometimes they run into me. (Maybe bad body language).

- I am so overstrained with the situation that I am thinking about buying
sunglasses to avoid EC.

**- **Sometimes I am little bit scatterbrained. I have a lot of fun.

**- **At home I wanted to watch a movie, but I cannot concentrate. The same as I
wanted to read something at my friends home. I want to move my body and
dance.

**- **I stop dancing, because I want to go to the clubs tonight and need my
energy for that. I do some houseworks, like bringing the trash out.
When I am in the staircase I met a female neighbor. I try not to smile
too much and just say “Hello”. She stares at me for seconds, saying
nothing, smiling to. Then: “Hello!”.. I put the trash outside and pretend
like thats a normal reaction for me.

Now I am still very energized. Part of it may be the spaceland, part of it the
enjoyment and excitement, because my order came today.

That’s what I was wearing over the day:***

  • A314: 1-3 drops on the wrists
  • spacelands: 3 shots in the hair (right, left side, back)
  • Instant Shine 2 go: one shot under the nose

In a few hours I will go to club and my plan looks like that at the moment:***

  • 1 drop of A314 on the wrist (is it too early for reapplying? - after 11 hours)
  • 2 shots of instant shine under my nose and on my adams apple (after 7 hours
  • 1 shot space land on the back of my neck (also too early? - after 7 hours)
  • maybe: 2 shots instant honesty
  • and later the night some turn up the heat

Ok this was my first trip with pheromones.
I think I will take a break tomorrow and then after a few days do more serious experiments.

Maybe some one can give me advices how to do it more seriously.

Sorry for my more critical posts earlier.

newbie help, please reply!!!!
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All right! What a great field report, excellent details. I’ve had experiences with a similar mix that completely parallel what you described. (Except for the birds! I suspect that was pure coincidence.)

I use a very similar combination:

  • 1 drop A314 where neck meets chest

  • 1 spray Spaceland back of neck
    is my base mix for work day, and then after work

  • 1 spray Spaceland back of neck

  • 1+ sprays Instant Shine 2x strength on neck, cheeks, chin, upper lip
    I’ll start with one or two sprays of Instant Shine going out to celebrate, then continue spraying through the night. Sometimes I dilute one part of Instant Shine 2x with two parts of formulator’s alcohol in a pocket spray – that’s about 0.67 strength – which I may use up in the course of a night.

I rarely have to reapply A314 later in the evening … the effects seem to last for me for more than 12 hours.

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Thanks for your reply MarkL. Interesting to know that you use this combo in every day situations.

Now I am writing about what happend later in the evening, just some impressions.

pheromones in the club

I took a shower and then put on the following products.

the mix

  • A314 1 drop to wrists
  • Spaceland: 2 shots hair
  • Instant Shine (2go): 2 shots nose/mouth, adams apple
  • Instant Honesty (2go): 2 shots neck (sides)
  • Instant Female Magic (2go): Back of neck. A little shot.
  • Turn Up The Heat (2go): later on too many shots… I was drunk and
    did reapply a few times, didn’t count.

a few things I noticed in the club:

- had great fun talking, dancing…

- high-fives on the dance floor.
people I just met calling my name happily
when I enter the dance floor.

- compliments/comments on my clothing from guys and girls

+ later that night I put turn up the heat on

- I was dancing pogo and a guy was always pushing his
head against my chest and my sides.
He is a friend of a friend of mines
and did this for the rest of the evening. Later
they told me that he’s gay. So this was a hit.
A funny kind of hit, not what I wanted to have.

- Later I was sitting at the place where you pay
and a girl came to me, talking about some standard
shit. A guy with some edding markers in his face
tried to cockblock me, but the girl told him to go
away. So I was sitting there on a barstool or something
and she was standing between my legs pushing her
legs against my … .
Later she left me when I told her that she made me horny.
So my game could need a little bit of calibration.
Talking is not good for me.

- One guy outside was starring at me like he wanted to start
a fight. I befriended myself with the bouncer before that,
so nothing to worry about.

- Girls calling me a womanizer or a pickup artist.
**

  • O**ne girl first talked to me friendly, than became angry at
    me. Maybe because there was a guy at her side who was hitting
    on her and was not only sexually interested in her.

My sticking point is that I am really drunk in clubs and
my game isn’t that great. I am not a night game guy yet.
And my talking does hinder me in many
ways.. so I am learning to get more non-verbal.

And the Pheromones were great.
Ok it would have been great without the pheromones, too, maybe,
because I knew a lot of people there, but not that great.

And I should find a way to use instant honesty at body parts,
which don’t affect me, because I was talking about some pretty
personal stuff with some people there. Things I would have normally
told noone.. (might also be the alcohol)

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Okay..You see that title you gave this thread? THAT is what is important here.

You are STARTING out, so STOP mixing. Here is why:

If you are new to pheromone usage, and even if you are not, and are just new to the Androtics products, then I am going to give you the same advice we give ALL new people.

Start using each product on its OWN for a period of a week minimum. If you use the Search facility at the top-right of each page here, you can read exactly why we advise this, time-without-number.

If you try using more than one product without having tested ONE single product in its own merits, how the heck do you know which product is doing what?

You need to give each product a fair go in various social settings, then you can add in.

Far too many people try to run before they can walk with pheromones, and that is when fudged results or even NO results become the problem, as they just don’t have a clue what single products offer them.

So stick with one, and try it for at least a week. Start with IS. Don’t be too conscious of the pheromomes, just get on with your day, and then when you get back HOME, analyse your results.

If you are too aware of the fact you are wearing pheromones, you will get false ideas of things occurring - so just go with the flow, keep your eye out for SUBTLE changs in people’s attitudes and behaviour, and in how you, yourself feel, and your pheromonal journey will be much more worthwhile to
you.

I have been using pheromones for years and years, and now I literally mix my own blends, just as Cat does, because I know exactly what works with what now. However, I definitely still use the the experimones putatives and experimental mixes from Androtics on their own for at least a week, before I even consider adding another product, or adding the experimental mix to something tried and tested, to see how it varies my pheromone signature and the results achieved.

It’s really the only way to find out what works for you. If you simply for example, put on say 5 different products, and get results - how the heck will you know WHICH is giving you the results, after all - unless you isolate each for a substantial period, first?

So STOP mixing for the time-being, don’t think too much about the fact you are wearing pheromones and just GO WITH THE FLOW!

Enjoy! :slight_smile:

Ail :slight_smile:

Isn't mixing all in one bottle simpler?
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My observings since my first pheromone trip:

Instant Shine:
For me this makes a depressed state worser, because my body starts to express the depression in my micro body language espacially the face.
BUT a neutral to good state can become a damn happy uplifting state.
I don’t want to write about reactions of other people here, because it seems to me that they would be just guesses.
Wearing instant shine I wrote most of the stuff here. It increases my expressiveness. Normally I am more closed and do not express
myself very much.
Today I used my last shots from the 2go bottle and used an exercise I think I learned from Richard Bandler: You spin your emotions
in your body in the direction, that creates happy feelings and repeat a suggestion (eg. “I AM HAPPY NOW”) faster and faster
in your head - also increasing the speed of spinning “the emotion”.
I was in a good state. A state in which I got bored from reading (input) and started wanting to talk (output).
I am feeling fine, relaxed, happy.
My bottle is empty now, but I know, that in a few weeks my full-size bottle will arrive. Hooray!

A314:
High doses let my misantrophic arrogant asshole self come through. I like this part of myself and some girls like it too, but
my “normal” self doesn’t like “his” :wink: behavior and the girls I attract with it.
Today I am just wearing only one drop and I think I will not use more than that in the future. It’s enough for self-changes in
body language and feelings of confidence without too much behavioral changes.
My pupils seem to become bigger wearing this. (Maybe that’s a part of why some people are avoiding eye contact.)
I am better able to concentrate, but when I am not doing anything specific,
I am drifting off in day dreaming.
Normally I day dream in these situations too, but I think with A314 I am more concentrated in doing the daydreams.

A314 taught me that with pheromones sometimes less is more.
Before a not so good event with a A314 high-dose I always wanted to use a little bit more.
This more, more, more thinking seems to be wired into me. More money, more sex, … More more more.
Maybe a part of the thinking of our society, but with pheromones - you don’t need really much of them.
Like the Penn & Teller Bullshit! episode were they think: Hey, let’s take more of the pheromone stuff so it will work better.
And of course their experiment showed that pheromones don’t work. I think you cannot show that something doesn’t work, only
that something does work as well as you cannot not think of a rose elephant.

(Another thing I learned in the past weeks: Stop Drinking. It’s expansive and it doesn’t seem to help me and makes the whole thing with pheromones more complicated.)

Thanks Ail btw for your advice. It was another wise thing I didn’t want to listen to. I kept mixing. Maybe I’ll go for it.
And yes I need to stop thinking about wearing pheromones, good advice too. Maybe I am now in a state in which I am no longer looking
for proofs that pheromones are working and it’ll become easier to not think about it, because I don’t have to look for HITS everywhere
anymore.

I’ve started doing energized meditation exercises one week ago and I think I will get a little bit of a clearer perspective with that, becoming a better observer,
who is a little bit more able to seperate the observer (me) from the observed one (me too).
Maybe I’ll write more on my cognitions about me and pheromones at a later date. This is just the beginning :wink:

So enough of expressing myself for today, 4 hours after using instant shine the need to write something is gone away.

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1) A314 & the state of power

A314 made me curious of the style and mindset of a “real” A314 person.
Being treated like a very important person with my shitty clothes etc, showed me that you have all the power over how people treat you.
I am now improving myself in the direction of becoming a A314 man.
Maybe just a part time A314 man - sometimes it’s helpful to not be an A314 man. :wink:
It’s fun. If you know how to speak the language o power, you can get into the power state.

2) A314 - not for jokers

If you wear A314, people will take you very seriously. Don’t make stupid jokes, like telling somebody “My plans for the future are forming a cult and you are my first member.” She will just agree and accept it as total truth.
This is also a thing I like about A314-style.
I will get rid of the validation-seeking joker in me automatically, because it works no more. (It may have something to do with the pheromones plus the changes in my voice and facial expressions)

3) A314 - prevents you from being nuts

Wearing A314 I am also not able to dance like a crazy person.
This may have to do with the lack of emotions or the impossibility of feeling into the music. Moments like that are moments in which I wouldn’t want to be a A314 person.

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Should we update A314’s sales copy now?

Oh god, that is hilarious.

It’s totally true, too, which makes it even more hilarious.

Oh yeah,
Have you felt the A314 Stalker Effect yet? (Dig up some of PheroQuirks older posts on the A314 Stalker Effect and you’ll know what I mean. :wink:)

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I just searched for this A314 stalker effect you speak of. Yikes. Good thing you’ve indirectly brought this to my attention.

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No, no real stalker problems yet.

A314 and being in the moment

I think an important part of the A314 effect is that it let you concentrate better, like you, Jasmin, wrote about that Cartoon network artist, who uses this to concentrate while working.

So if you are fully concentrated on the outside world people will see that you are not one of those people walking arround like robots.

My concentration and ability to be in the moment got better through meditation and I think it’s the most important thing for almost anything - being there instead of being in your thinking mind - being one with the world instead of being the observer and manipulator.

I could be wrong, but I think I’ve seen similar reactions wearing A314 as when I am in the moment, but it could just be me.

This needs to be further investigated. :slight_smile:

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Calmness

When you are in the moment you are also calm.
The calmest person is the one who is in charge - like old people seem more powerful sometimes?

So if there is an angry cop and me - who is in charge? Me, the calmest.

With A314 you are also calm.

It’s what Fritz Pearls calls a double bind. (I think he thinks that many psychological problems come from situations were both things you can do are wrong.)

If you are not in the moment, you want that things are different. BUT you are always in the moment. So you want to be in the moment and not be in the moment. So you get nervous. You can see this with so called V.I.P.s. When they are the biggest V.I.Person in one area they are calm, but when there is a bigger actor than them they get all nervous like a little child and stop their robot state of power.

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After having successfully modelled my A314-self (or maybe the major parts of it) I am testing now some other pheromones, today:
**
AMMUNITION

2x Neck 1x WRIST

**This stuff seems to make me aggressive.
Not in the way that I want to beat up people, but maybe in a passive aggressive way.
For example a friend asked me for some advice for creative stuff and I replied in a way, that seemed like objective critcism, but was really an insult to him.
Or I critisized the lifestyle of one of my girlfriends. I can find “objective criticism” everywhere, if I want to, so I call this aggression, because I normally don’t need to talk to people about it or don’t even think about it.

Oh and I was more tensed and less focused. So my now natural A314 was messed up.

This seems not to be an interesting pheromone product for me, but maybe I will try it again just for curiosity.

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Well, Walkr, Ammo may make you feel a certain way for a short while. Of course, you don’t have to act on your whims (freewill is still in play). However, if you use it regularly, you’ll soon get used to it and the self-medication effects will gradually fade away. The important thing is, how did it influence those around you?

I like Ammo and find it a wonderful social mix, especially for work and hanging out with friends. Helps add a friendly easy-going vibe to almost any situation. If I need a little more RAW sexual vibe, I add androstenone to it.

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Walkr, I identify with your A314-self.

So far I’ve only tested it about a week and I already notice that if I put on too much (4+ drops) I easily go Arrogant-314… :roll_eyes:

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Thanks for A314 you geniuses from Androtics.
I’ve tried 10 drops again and found that I can handle
it much better now.
It helped me to find my hypomanic/shining self and was an
interested way for me to model new behaviour like in NLP.
I am walking around wearing pheromones for some days
making notices about what I see, feel, hear and think
and recreate this without pheromones.
Then I take them on again, get a different reaction,
recreate this reaction without pheromones.
And so on and so on.

Love to Androtics.
My next big bottle A314 is shipped and as soon as I
modelled the best parts of my A314 10drops self I will go higher and higher and higher evil laughter

love to you all

walkr

PS: I changed my avatar, because young John Travolta suits me better than crazy Klaus Kinski right now.

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Instant Shine = Instant Gay
This is the gay pheromone for me. I had forget my ticket for a concert today and I hadn’t enough cash for a new one, so I wanted to borrow some money from someone, who lives in my city. So some guy gave me the money and he didn’t wanted it back. Later I met him in the train home and it was funny seeing him looking at my lips while I was talking. A few months ago I was also approached by a man with Instant Shine on. The gayness factor seems to come from this pheromone.

The other thing I noticed with Instant Shine I cannot get angry, so people do not take me seriously, when I say that I don’t like something. So I am the InstantShineGay that is only congruent, when he is nice. I was in a situation today which reminded me of the time in the clubs, when a girl stole my cigarettes and didn’t believe me they were mine.

I am still feeling the instant shine glow, but I would say I stay with pure A314 in the future.
Being happy is one thing, being nice and not getting what you want is the other.

The result: I lost one girl, that I didn’t like that much - which might have been the bigger problem than the instant shine one - , but I date another more interesting girl tomorrow and another one the day after tomorrow - WITHOUT INSTANT SHINE!

What did I learn today?

  • Bouncers even respect me when I am the gay instant shine me, but they don’t take me seriously, when I am complaining. They seem to talk from man to gay guy instead of from man to man.
  • And with A314 and Instant Shine you seem to get away with anything. If you disrespect some one he will say it was ok and other people say it was ok, too. The bouncers made fun of the organizer of the concert who runned away from me, because he didn’t want to give me my money back. So I had good social-proof, but didn’t get what I want. A314 is fucking fun. When I rethink the situation, it wasn’t too bad - yeah my optimism is back… I mean this organizer guy walking to the bouncer to kick me out of the concert and then after the bouncers asked him ironical like a little boy: did the the (gay) guy pick on you? And he then backing off: Oh no, it’s ok.
  • Another funny A314 story: I was out with some big muscle guys (rockers), who paid me some beers (this was some months ago, I no longer drink) and one of them in one moment said: “If you would fight all of us, you would win.” in a serious way as some sort of compliment. And I thought: Eh, oh the pheromones seem to work. I am not really the muscle guy. The psychological effect is amazing. Of course I said “Yeah, of course I could!”. Later I put on some Turn Up The Heat, they got angry. I put on some more Turn Up The Heat and some more Turn Up The Heat and they got angrier and angrier. Man, I was drunk, what else should you do when you are drunk and have some pheromonens with you? Yeah, they were really angry, but they respected me out of fear and were very friendly guys. Finally one of the guy suggested me privately to go home, because his friends are so angry and they would like to fight me. One of the A314 guys was a little bit pissy with me in the beginning, but the more Turn Up The Heat I wore, thee more friendly he got and now he said good bye and gave one of his cigarettes for the way home.

Respect The Gaywalker :smiley:

PS: I was wearing 6 drops of A314 and 3 sprays of instant shine.

PPS: I saw this niceguy-not-taken-seriously-thing with Instant Shine also in a meeting. No more mister nice guy, no more Instant shine. If you want to attract 15 year old girls or some boys or you want to be the gay friend of a woman, use Instant shine, else use pure A314 and have the smile of a man.