My Journal (With and Without the Pheromones)

Well nvm about the P75 half dose. Its hard to imagine how P75 works for you but I only find it complementary when I wear it low. If 2.5 works for you go with it.

Well you seemed to have it figured out. I dont think my assistance was necessary after all and reading a couple of your other posts you are just as well read as silly is. The other way to go about things is nailing the pheromone signature the way you think the other person would like it. Personally I dont like it because if chasing someone LTR things might fizzle fast later on.

I tend to take a romantic approach with women so I really don’t mind wearing a signature that caters to their desires. I tend to read women and men to a certain degree so I can get a decent idea of what putatives and whether or not the girl prefers more rone or none. Do you have TAL and TAH? I think it would be a good test to wear something like a 60/40 ratios with both components being higher on different days and you can see what your potential guy responds to better. I know you said IS/a doesnt fit you but it isnt just TAL in there and I’m sure you can find a workable dosage. Its hard to see on the surface if a guy is a TAH guy or a TAL guy.

Without bringing pheromones into it I’m more into girls that are pretty outgoing and somewhat aggressive yet still quite comfortable in there femininity. I like a girl that exudes a certain spirit and passion for life and is confident but not above being slightly sweet and more importantly compassionate. For me I’d say a 65/35 TAH/TAL. Thats just an example. I know that you know your guy types really well and since you’ve interacted with him enough I’m sure you can break it down from there.

What did you mean by “I don’t like it because if chasing someone LTR things might fizzle…”?

I know its not just TAL. But trust me, I’ve used IS/A at just one spray and haven’t gotten good results. Then there are some days when I do…I’m a dominant girl so adding more dominance to me doesn’t fit.

Also, I might have to check back, but I’m pretty sure when I used just TAL by itself it made me have social anxiety :confused:
I also have TAH.
Trust me…with as much as I’ve used both Instant Sexinesses I’m positive TAH is best for me. It not only makes me a nicer person, it attracts the guys I want too.

Good to know :slight_smile: I think with IS/B it gives me just that perfect split of sweetness and dominance. I’m not normally a sweet person so it really helps me out.

If I had to guess I’d say he probably likes a split too. He seems like a no nonsense type of guy. Someone who’d want a smart girl who was tough, but was still sweet.

IF a guy is a-lookin then he be-a-interested.

If he does it more than once, he thinks you’re cute. But this is college, we’re all shy and we don’t wanna get rejected in such a tight knit community where failure isn’t viewed as normal as it is in the outside world.

Well for the top quote I was simply saying that if you use the approach of using purely what appeals to the other person pheromone wise it may or may not cause the chemistry between you two to fizzle later on. This is on a case by case basis.

  1. You could attract a person that wouldnt normally be attracted to you and if their agreeable enough after they see a mix of you and a mix of the mones that becomes the staple in their mind through fall out and/or phero memory.

  2. You could attract a person once again that wouldnt normally be attracted to you but they are very rigid/ unmovable in what qualities they look for so when the signature is not maintained there will be a sense of disconnect and he/she will start to experience “Who is this person, I didn’t sign up for this”

  3. You could wear something that reaches out more but at the same time fits your persona/ demeanor to a good degree so that even when you arent wearing the “hook” that got them to you in the first place it won’t seem like such a drastic change and your potential significant other will be more acquiescent to this somewhat “alternate” version of you.

I’m just saying like for myself that just because I wear TAA or lots of A-nol or P130 it doesn’t mean on a regular day that I’m overly upbeat and cheery. I try not to be overly dependent on any social to define the mood im creating because at the end of the day I want to sell myself to the situation while having a slight enhancement from pheromones.

1 or 3 are situations that are very ideal for oneself although there have been many times where I’ve experienced 2 and it really kills my morale for the day or sometimes even for the week.

In the end each isolated situation has its own nuance/ variables and only the persons pheromone IQ/ social skills/ frame of mind will enable a person to walk through the situation gracefully no matter what they encounter along the way and no matter what results at the end of it all. You know your stuff, I was just being suggestive with my last post and trying to help out.

I like seeing people “make it” persay so please keep us updated with this potential guy :slight_smile:

2 SL
2 P79

Effects:
I felt like this combo made me talkative, but it wasn’t forced really. It actually had a lil more flow. Me and a guy friend saw a movie and there was never a moment where we couldn’t think of something to say. We even talked a little during the movie.

Nothing else too amazing to report on. Not sure if this combo is really something I’d rant about. It has it’s pluses as making a conversation easy and flowing, but not what I’m looking for in a combo…

My next report (coming up soon) is very exciting :slight_smile:

What’s SL?

P75 1 spray to arm (split between two arms and a lil put on my hair.) 2.5 mcg
B-nol 1 spray to face/neck 100 mcg

Effects:
I like this other guy…were gna call him TG (D) and he lives with my girl friend and her bf. Anywho…my girl friend invited me to her place to hang out and discuss plans for my birthday. I was a little worried about how awkward it would be between TG (D) because we had made out 2 weeks ago and my friend had told me she didn’t think he was ready to get into a relationship yet and that he was avoiding the topic altogether. It upset me, but I quickly got over it and told her I would just stay away. Sadly I had a dream about him and it made me want him more..

Anywho, fastforward to the present. I spray on my pheros (P75 before I left my dorm and B-nol as I was getting outta the car). Wanted B-nol to last longer.

Went inside and thank God it wasn’t awkward. I was able to converse normally with my best friend and guy friend. It felt very casual and friendly. Even with my best friend it can be a little hard to talk to her casually. It was very easy tho.

I tried not to show I still liked TG (D) the whole night. My other guy friend came over and another guy came later, I don’t usually talk to the last guy who came over, but conversation was very easy, and he kept a lot of eye contact, even when i wasn’t talking to him. My guy friend also sought my attention.

TG (D) ended up sitting next to me at one point. I was very pissed at this point because of something bff had told me about her bf and I really wanted to hurt him. TG (D) kept trying to calm me down and we exchanged secret conversation about my bff. (D) asked me to go into his room with him…he wanted to talk about something. I had just been talking about hurting my bff’s bf and about her problems so I assumed he wanted to tell me to calm down.

I walk in, sporting the hat he had put on me earlier. Not sure why…it was really random. He tells me to sit down on the bed and then sits down next to me. He goes on to talking about what we did 2 weeks ago and we discuss how when I had come over that day it had been 5 days since he had broken up with his ex. (Granted it wasn’t much of a relationship, but I can understand if he wasn’t exactly ready to get into another relationship if his last was bad.) But he told me another reason why he had not been receptive. He said that if it had been any other girl he wouldn’t have cared, but since we have been friends for over 2 years, and good friends at that, he didn’t want to rush into a relationship and ruin the friendship. Which I totally understand because I’ve been in that predicament before. In fact there had been times when I could have easilly kissed (D) because I was lonely, but I didn’t because I was worried it would ruin our friendship. So I told him about how I’m friends with pretty much most of my exes, and they hadn’t even been friends with me before hand. (Yep, this is the first time I have fallen for a friend). And so in the end we decided to try out dating before we made it official and see where it goes. I’m very happy :slight_smile: I didn’t push anything on him for those 2 weeks and it gave him time to think and get his head straight and look what came of it. I think the B-nol helped a lot too because it probably made him more comfortable talking with me about the subject…I mean he was seriously avoiding the topic…I think B-nol really helped..I also think P75 helped as well…probably with getting rid of any negative thoughts, or supressing them.

Oh…also at one point while we were all outside, not only TG, but the other guy and a girl friend from the apt next door attack tickled me until I was on the ground DX lol

Soooo all in all a good night :slight_smile:

Spaceland… lol sorry XD I had typed that out really fast a few days ago and forgot to go back and spell it out

Im in suspense for you kitsune :smiley:

Oh duh, silly me, how obvious, lol. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m so glad about your TG, congratulations! He sounds like a decent guy with a good head on his shoulders (and lord knows there are definitely not a whole lot of those out there, lol).

Yes I would agree.

The fact that he’s grown in maturity so much since freshman year when we first met is what really draws me to him now. I’m not one to date my friends, but now that he’s matured and works a decent job he’s become very attractive to me. He has this way of kissing me on the back of my neck that really tingles my back in a good way XD

Alrighty since things are going good with TG (D) and we’ve gotten to an intimate level I decided it was time to add something else to my B-nol besides P75 or P79. EST sounds like a good addition with B-nol. I have tried the two together once or twice, but I’d like to try them with one or two other pheros. Maybe P79 or P75.

B-nol+EST+?
Any thoughts?
I think what I’m trying to get here is definitely more cuddling, more eye contact, comfort, sweetness, smiles…

I’d add some instant shine to that personally. The vibe would complement the cuddly comfort sweetness of EST and the intimacy of Beta nol. P86 would be nice too at around 35-50 mcgs but that well has been so dry lately its hard to get it :frowning:

Hmmm, I’m thinking maybe EST and possibly p83 (for reduced inhibitions)…

Hmm I like the idea of reducing inhibitions. I also like the idea of using P86 tho cus I haven’t used it in forever. In fact I remember a time way back when I used B-nol+EST+P86 and had the most interesting night with my first ever TG and his roomie.
I might try that and then instead of using P79 I’ll use P83…hmmm ok that sounds like a good combo. I’d add IShine but I really don’t wanna offend people with that many sprays haha

Now…all I need is a chance to hang out with him. Hrmmmmm…

Hey, you seem like a nice girl. Just try be nice, cute and sexy and be attentive to him and let him know you care. At times, act like you are really into him. At other times, be more casual and less clingy. Make him wonder whether you like him or not. Elegance, feminine, docile, traditional types always seem to attract high quality guys, so also, keep that in mind

IS a or b. Try one of those. Usually, young guys like sexy hot women- fantasy come true. If you have eow, use some drops with ISa.

I used a dash of eow only and walked around my neighborhood. guys were ignoring me while women were smiling and greeting me, lol. Thought it was interesting.

P.S. Let’s add this to my personal ad above :smiley: I’m in a very good shape and I carry myself with confidence. I like walking along the beach while watching a sunset in summer. In fall, I enjoy walking in streets watching beautifully-colored leaves fall with each gentle breeze. Winter and snow… Ewwww. Don’t even get me started :wink:

Don’t let her fool you for a second. :wink: She’s a panther by every accord!

Well, well, well! A secret combo that I’ve used to great effect and that does include the P83. Hang onto that P86 to as it is very rare, but I bet you that “interesting” night was pretty interesting :wink:.

This is a very solid, very potent love mix. Have fun HK. Always remember you are a solid catch for any guy. You got the looks, the bod, the smarts and charisma to charm anyone. Even without the mones you could do it and while you know that already, sometimes its important just to hear it from someone else. You’re a real sweetheart and all you need to do is be yourself and you’ll have this fella swooning before long :slight_smile:

A secret combo? Wait, are you saying mine is a secret combo you’ve used or that you have a secret combo? hmmm?

And thanks for all the compliments. I would agree with you on all those things, its just hard to be completely yourself when your confidence is not always there. I’m just hoping that since he has been a good friend of mine that the confidence that has been there will stay.

I talked to him the other day, tho this is the last time I talked to him…apparently he’s busy with work and school…but basically he told me he’s text me when he had a free night.

Idk if I should take it offensively that he hasn’t been texting me as much as any guy who likes me or if I should be glad he’s not as clingy as most guys…

I’m thinking I might have a talk with him in person and ask him how much he really likes me and why he doesn’t talk to me as much. I’ll add in the fact that I love hearing from him so that it doesn’t seem like I’m getting onto him :wink: Though I am a little worried about scaring him off because he’s a gemini and as such doesn’t like the idea of heavy emotions/commitment. Sooooo I need to talk to him in person to make sure I can read him properly and say the right things.

Still…this is so weird…both of my exes talk to me more than he does o.O And they are busy all day with work…he even got on fb and didn’t msg me while we were both on chat…Which kinda makes me glad I’m not building up expectations about a future with him yet…sheesh, he says he wants to try out dating and when I talk to him I get responses, but I feel like I really have to try…flakey much?

I’m gonna try one more time with this one…that combo I mentioned should come in handy…after that…Idk, maybe I should move on.

I knew a gemini guy for a long time so I know what their like pretty thoroughly. What sign are you? I’ve never been able to guess a person’s sun sign because there are so many factors that trick me. My first guess would be Virgo and if not perhaps a Libra which is what I am :smiley:

Thats the problem. Not every guy is going to be the same when it comes to coming to terms with their attraction/affinity for a girl. Some guys are very straightforward. Some are flakey and have a tendency to be a hot and cold at least in the beginning. Some actually really enjoy pushing and pulling the situation on their terms.

Gemini’s flirt for fun a lot IME. They are a flirtation connosieur even with girls they may not have intention of courting or wooing. It took a real interesting girl to finally capture my friend in a sense. Shes funny and very outgoing but more important she owns her shit and is more poised to be the aggressive kind of girl with a bit of a restrained femininity.