My Journal (With and Without the Pheromones)

I gave your sister a copy of TMM. Did you get a chance to read it? The psychologist in you should, if you haven’t. I do believe it will help in understanding a guys mindset in understanding and adapting that mindset to understand and adapt to the woman psyche.

Women absolutely use their emotions and we guys use logic. My rationing to tell you this is there is a disconnect occurring here and you need to figure it out. Not because of any other reason, but to help eliminate any repeats in the future with someone else.

Now this might sound harsh and I’m not sure if you mentioned this, but just the one time in passing. If he’s a frat boy most likely you were a conquest to him and he’s moved on. I’m not sure if anything “happened” and this does not necessarily mean sex, but could entail a make-out session, then you were the flavor of the moment most likely. Its a lose-lose situation for most girls in this situation and if nothing did happen count your blessings sweetheart and move on. He either had sex with you and there is nothing left to gain so he’s gone onto having sex with someone else. If he didn’t get very far with you, which I am going to assume from everything I know of you and your upbringing (I can tell when a girl has a lot of class and you sweetheart, have a lot of class :wink:) he didn’t get very far with you. Well there are much easier girls who will put out just because it gives them access to more frat boys and more parties (presumed status although we both know the truth) and he’s moved onto one of them.

So again, from what I do know of you, you are legit. You have classic babe looks and a great bod (remember the bikini pics-LOL :stuck_out_tongue:), you’re intelligent and have a very good upbringing, a sweetheart and most importantly you’re pretty darn cool and a great sense of humor. Pretty much the complete package. Ask yourself what is he bringing to the table?I get it that you already know this, but sometimes its important to hear it.

TG sounds like he needs to grow up a bit, but it’s your call. My suggestion would be this if you have it:

MX135 (Sub either LAM or Isexi B)
MX274 (Sub IO)
Ishine (there is no sub)
EST (Sub IH)
P96 (there is no sub)

Short black dress with 3-6 inch heals and plenty of lace

Well heres the thing. I’m not really a big flirter. Any flirting I do is very subtle. Generally what I do to make myself more valuable is talk to everyone, guys and girls, and really get into their conversations…make them laugh, make them seem like I’m having a good time. No touching involved, but there are definite smiles when they are needed. No over laughing (like a hyena -.-) just enough to show I’m having a good time.

Not sure but I assume you mean don’t flirt to the point of touching their arm, whispering in their ear, hugging them or sitting on their lap or really close to them.

I’m not really touchy-feely unless I really like someone so if that’s what you mean then there shouldn’t be a problem. If not then I’m not sure what you consider blatant flirting o.o

Your picture reminds me of this cute girl that was on Supernatural until she got killed off last season. I know it sounds like a bad reflection but I miss her being on there and I wish the older of the 2 brothers ended up with her :frowning:

Anyway paranormal melodrama aside I dont think any person could have given a more complete phero combo than what Steve just suggested. Even the black dress with lots of lace gives me goosebumps (the good kind :smiley:)

goes back to journal observation mode

I haven’t gotten a chance to read it, but she told me a lot of the things guys do and a lot of them I’ve noticed my guy friends do which make me chuckle and want to counter :stuck_out_tongue: Still, I admire their effort to use the method on me.

That is normally true. Being a sagittarius I generally don’t like to involve my emotions tho they do tend to sneak in there somehow >.<
Yeah I think the fact that I can’t find the disconnect thats occuring is the thing that is bothering me the most. I don’t like surprises. I like to know how things are going to work and make sure I don’t make the same mistakes.

Yeah lol frat boy. I really didn’t want to mention this because of the stereotype people put on frat boys. Honestly they hate the word frat. They like to be called a fraternity and pride themselves in being gentlemen so while you may thing “asshole” when you see frat boy, I’m close friends with all these guys and know they would be there for me if I needed them. I’ve also dated a frat boy before from a diff frat and he was a great bf.
No, we didn’t have sex. I have morals :stuck_out_tongue:

THank you :slight_smile: And I always consider what the guy brings to the table. I don’t even consider dating them unless I know they are of some value to me.

TG sounds like he needs to grow up a bit, but it’s your call. My suggestion would be this if you have it:

I really wish I had P96. No clue what it does, but if there is no sub I might just go with P83 since I like it so much.

Not sure on the dress since I’ll probably be moving around a lot, but I will be wearing something nice…probably lacey.

Thanks so much for the tips Steve :slight_smile:

Oh then you should be fine.

Blatant flirting to me was when she literally jumped on a guy giving him a hug, not in front of me, but enough that I knew about.

Good l uck on that, looking forward to your report

I made two girls realize this in the past year. They wanted me back, but I changed my mind. I thought about going after one of them again, but lost contact… for now :stuck_out_tongue:

If a girl flakes or shows me disrespect in public, it is over. No chance, unless she comes chasing me. Can’t accept that, but that is me :smiley:

What sign are you CoolKat?

I don’t like to be disrespected so I show the same level of respect to another person unless they are really stupid and getting on my nerves…then I’ll prob do something to get em off my back -.-

Oh…lol no, I mean if I haven’t seen someone in a long time I really go outta my way to give them a big hug (guy or girl), but I don’t just do that if I think it will hurt someones feelings…even someone who has hurt me, because I know I wouldn’t like it.

Hopefully there is a report with TG in it. I’m not entirely sure he will be at this bday party. He knows the guy whos bday it is, but there may be something going on at the fraternity house so who knows where he’ll be. I’ll have fun regardless :wink:

I don’t reveal too much of my personal info over the net. Haven’t you noticed how don’t mention what school I go and so forth. Giving out my age was a bit much, but then again, there are a lot of late 20’s out there so… :slight_smile:

But, I am probably what you think I am … I can PM if you really need to know, but I think you already might know…:wink:

It is not that I blatantly start ignoring or disregard the person that treats me disrespectfully. I am just not as nice to them as before. if you continue to interact or make the girl feel that she can get away with it, believe it or not, she and ALL OTHER girls around her will lose respect for you and have less attraction for you. I learned from my past, and I see guys going through it all the time. It makes me amused how some things never change :cool:

I tell you what happened recently: I met this girl at my apartment and talked to her for awhile. However, she ignored my calls and texts a lot, so when I accidentally saw her the other day at Starbucks, when I had on 2x A314 + 2x IS + 12.5mcg p93 (this makes white girls from 18 to 30 go crazy lol) , she was giving me obvious IOI’s and all hoping that I would talk and flirt with her. I just said hi, and walked away. I could have for some social proof and then talk to other girls afterward, but it wasn’t even worth it.

Also, just because she now shows you IOI’s doesn’t mean you just forget how she disrespected you in the past and start showing IOI’s back. If she acted like that before, she is not worth your time. Plus, there are much better girls out there. If she were a princess of Sweden, well, you might have to change your mind, but… hehe :smiley:

I do? Hmm..well since youre being so secretive I’d think you were a scorpio.

I would definitely agree. It’s hard to change old ways. Looks like you’re wanna of the smart ones tho.

Lol I like your way of thinking.

mx274 2 sprays (neck, arms)
P83 1 spray to chest 25 mcg
EST 2 sprays (neck, arms) 100 mcg

Effects:
I decided not to go with the MX135 because I have very little left and TG wasn’t at the party…well at least until later. I wasn’t upset about it at all, but I was happy when he came by…still I kept my distance. I’d been talking to a lot of new guys and messing around with my bff’s guy friend who’s bday it was. We’ll just call him bday boy. Bday boy was being sarcastic with me the whole night as he was last week…hes a nice guys but that’s apparently how we communicate. I call him gay, he says something sarcastic, I tell him he looks like a jonas brother, he tells me he’s not talking to me and then we do it all over again. It’s funny cus he’s lets me beat him up, he gets stuff for me when I ask…it would almost be sickening, but the “hatred” between us makes it interesting. He’s a scorpio…if that means anything. People kept thinking I was with him or liked him. Probably because I kept talking to him and I gave him a massage. When TG (D) got there he did not like it when i was giving bday boy a massage. >.< I know I said I wasn’t going to be flirty…but it just sorta happened… Do I regret it? Heck no.
I had almost every guy there talking to me, hugging me, smiling at me. I was 1 of 3 single girls there, but I was the only one getting all the attention from everyone. I even had a guy who wanted to carry me. o.O
My bff took me aside and laughingly told me TG (D) was getting jealous about the flirting I was doing. I wasn’t avoiding TG. I did come outside where he was at after I worked up the courage to go near him. He approached me first and I said hi, and gave him a hug, but I was kinda cold. I let him massage me and makes his little perverted comments in an attempt to flirt with me, but I kept my distance and talked to other people/flirted. He followed me almost everywhere I went. He was always within watching distance…sheesh. I saw him talking to bday boy at one point in the back hall and how much you wanna bet he was asking if something was up with him and me.

TG ended up getting so jealous he left to go to tacobell. We headed back to my friends house and I talked to TG about him not talking to me. He told me about he all this stuff had gotten stolen from his car and he was trying to get new books, laptop, etc. He was pretty pissed about it. About the text apparently he never got it. Actually I didn’t see his phone at all so I wonder if he had gotten it stolen too o.o

I told him this was his last chance to stay in the dating zone. After that he goes back to the friend zone, but I’m kinda already losing interest. He’ll have to do a lot to get back to where he was because after having so many guys interested in me in one night it makes me much more picky. I straight up told him that I didn’t care, this was the last chance because I can easilly find someone else…and he knows that.

I don’t think I like how I handled that last part, but if I remember correctly geminis are the best at taking stuff like that and bouncing back…so now I play the waiting game and see if he contacts me within the week. My birthday is this friday so he better >.>

Oh! Also I got a friend request from one of the guys at the party. The cutest one, aside from bday boy. He also sent me a PM saying “hey whats up”. He’s a cool guy. Too bad he’s in a relationship. Makes me wonder why he was being touchy o.o

Hook Line Sinker

Great report

Close, but no cigar… But pretty darn close?!? :wink:

Thanks! I don’t have anything against anyone - hope the best for them - but it is not good to waste one another’s time, if you just want to ignore or flake and stuff, hehehe.

Way to put the pressure on your TG… :smiley:
LEt’s see how he responds

Well he ended up texting me first today. We actually texted each other some throughout the day. Soooo I think the talk I had with him got through…either that or the wristlock I used on him at the party submitted him into it. I actually feel bad, but I’m pretty sure he must have done something to warrent that kinda treatment from me.
It’s like my kempo says “A guy should only touch you if you say they can.”
TG asked why I was undermining him right after that happened…yet he still kept coming around me…and so did bday boy…who I beat up the whole night lol

hey there! just wanted to let ya know i’m giving you reps for having an awesome journal that i learned a lot from reading! :slight_smile:

Glad to know my journal is helping you out :slight_smile:

Update on how things are going:

TG texted me again today. Good boy…good TG :stuck_out_tongue:

So all is well. Well…except for the fact that I think I’m falling for another guy (scorpio bday boy). Curse my stupid short attention span with guys. Ugh! :frowning: I don’t want to cut things off with TG, but I’m hoping he will do something that will make me feel like this is worth it cus I texted him a somewhat sexy text that I’m sure any other guy would have loved to receive and the response I got was a mere “nice” :angry:

Why is it always so complicated D:

i actually had almost this exact problem with a guy before my current boyfriend, it turned out that while him and i were casually dating (nothing too risqué thank goodness, just cuddling and a few kisses the few times he actually made it to my house to hang out) he was still (casually i assume/hope? O_o) seeing his ex girlfriend who had supposedly moved out a month ago. so just be careful girly, even if he isn’t seeing her he may still be thinking about her.

It’s complicated cause you don’t understand why he said “nice”.

The curiosity of why he did it keeps you somewhat attracted.

I dunno the whole story, but in college you have some many options, cut the loss and on to the next one.

I think its ultimately important to keep the lines of communication open. You may want to close the door on this Gemini friend (closer relationship wise) and thats perfectly fine. I just don’t think you should lock that door permanently.

Sag and Scorpio is a rough match. Although depending on his and your other alignments it may be workable. I know its a bad idea to pick the person to focus on based on horoscopes but if i knew a girl I liked was a capricorn or a pisces I simply have to let it go because it goes way way against the grain with my personality.