Socrates:
Great detailed reports steveo and thanks for the insight I have quoted, rep to you!
A few questions: Are you wearing 60 mcg of P83 alone (no other pheromones) in all of your reports in this thread? On this particular day of testing I was wearing P83 alone with original spray of 60 mcg about 5-6 hours previous (2 30 mcg sprays full size bottle) with one re-application of about 1/2 spray from 30 mcg full size bottle half hour before BuckyStars. So yes I was wearing P83 alone all day.
Have you ever tried megadosing of P83 (like 100 mcg or more at a time)? I would love to hear about your sarging with that much on and whether more of this putative might even be better for you. I think I maxed out at about 60 mcg P83 , but for research purposes I would be willing to up that to 100 mcg or more. Maybe this coming weekend.
How long do you think the effects of P83 last - do you see a drop off in effects after an hour or like 3-4 hours? It’s a very interesting question here visionary and I think you just want to see if I have a differing hypothesis than the one you have already formulated in that genius brain of yours. I’d like to know what you’re thinking.
I’ve seen this one, when I initially try it deplete itself rather quickly, especially when I mix it with other products. Only sometimes though, and thats the peculiar thing, I can’t quite pin the effects down to a specific time.
This report is based on an entire day with only a small re-application and that application was in my Jeep with the windows down for the ride to BuckyStars and the wind blowing in my face for a good fifteen minutes. There are sometimes when it seems as if it lasts a very lengthy time and other times when I’m like what the heck just happened, why did this just wear out like it did?
I am definitely going to keep more accurate control notes in my journal including temperatures, humidity levels, outside exposure times, and the likes. I can’t seem to find that one constant that makes it stable sometimes. Most of the BuckyStars time was spent outside, in temps around 75 degrees and I’d say inside was about the same.
From my limited experience with high dosages of P83 (60 mcg +) there is definitely an ‘aggressive/tenseness’, especially within an hour of application (though I’ve had moments of powerful agitation on me a couple of hours after applying). Now I can see that the ‘aggressive/tense’ vibe (where noone seems to approach me but are friendly generally once conversations start) might have some kind of ‘sensual undertone’ to it. I guess there is something arousing about a bit of tension and anger as opposed to ‘mundane, nice interactions’ and high dose P83 may tap into that in a similar way to Androstenone .
Thanks, Visionary
Yes steve, I am not that sure about how long the P83 lasts. Sometimes, it did seem to have effects even after a solid few hours for me. Other times the effects did seem to go quite quickly.
steveo:
I answered your questions in the quotes above in green. Thanks for the rep.
As far as the agitation side I have noticed apprehension in some instances, but not outright aggression. However, that being said, the managers daughter employee did strike me. I’m not sure if that can be taken in the context of aggression from the P83, or another theory I have been going over is maybe because I wasn’t paying her any attention she became upset. It really has me thinking about it and why she was so angry over something that didn’t occur.
On the other hand I would definitely 100% say there are sensual undertones to this mix, if not outright sexual. I have posted in numerous threads now that this molecule has a distinctive quality that changes refined, more conservative women into open liberal sexual girls willing to go for it in public without care.
Looking at the fact you are obviously good with sarging women and have the whole cool fun guy persona down pat perhaps what is happening is that women are more easily sucked into your world (see TaoistBiker’s pasted posts below)…
High-dose P83 – a different kind of ‘respect’ signal? - #2 by TaoistBiker (High-dose P83 – a different kind of ‘respect’ signal? - #2 by TaoistBiker )Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314 ) experience is somewhat dose dependent.
I would describe it as a “vibe sensitivity” substance. In small amounts, it makes me sensitive to the energy present, and in high doses “sucks you in” to the energy. If things are social, it tracks the social energy. Likewise, it seems to have a similar response to anti-social and sexual energies. Very cool and empathetic in a way
I’m wondering if the P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314 ) is playing off your natural energies.
Adding something like P79 (https://pheromonelabs.com/ ) or TAF modify the intensity while playing with either identification or disassociation of the subjective experience.
I think playing around with a P74 /P83 combination could be fun.”
High-dose P83 – a different kind of ‘respect’ signal? - #4 by TaoistBiker (High-dose P83 – a different kind of ‘respect’ signal? - #4 by TaoistBiker )
It’s different than beta-Androstenol to me in that beta-Androstenol is a more emotional/cerebral sort of connection and in me tends to be a “person bonding” experience.”