New Cadet Needs help!!!!

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Hi my friends,

I am a new cadet and i need help. :open_mouth: I haver never used pheromones, and want to try it. I really like this girl, but she gives me mixed signals :confused: and i want to try and see what i can do to win her over convincingly. So any help and advice on how to score with her, and i mean have her for the rest of my life, would be appreciatted as well. :frowning: there is so much confusing information about pheromones, and clarity would be good. Since you guys use it , i think users are the best judges rather then promoters right. How and when should i use them?:confused:

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If you’re thinking of spending the rest of your life with someone, you’d better get to know each other.

For that I’d suggest Instant Shine for a vibrant effect, IO for getting the interactions and comfort going, and later IH for deep conversations.

You may want to state your age, the lady’s age, and your races and cultures. People will be able to give you more detailed suggestions with that information.

Also, give some detail on the “mixed signals” you’re getting.

Responses to pheromones seem to vary by the individual, so there is no guarantee that anything anyone suggests will work for you and her as it did for them. There are commonalities of responses though, so your idea to ask like this is a good one.

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Instant Ammo is a good all around product also.

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If you’re thinking of spending the rest of your life with someone, you’d better get to know each other.

 
You may want to state your age, the lady's age, and your races and cultures. People will be able to give you more detailed suggestions with that information.
 
Also, give some detail on the "mixed signals" you're getting.

Thank you gone in response to your queries

I have known her for around 2 years, but really been interested in her for around 10 months, she is 25 i am 32. We usually meet outside of work hours 2-3 times a week and talk alot and we speak alot on the phone, sms, but its the dating part we are having trouble on. We cant seem to get that of the ground She has asked me three times but we managed to go out once, i have asked her three times but managed none of them. Sometimes she would touch my hair, my arms, she would smile and look at me and i can definitely see it in her eyes that she likes me. Sometimes it is in her words. But other times i get the feeling that i am not important and she is trying to ‘play diffficult to get’. As for race, we live in london, she is Lithuanian and i am British of Bangladeshi descent. Race is not an issue.

When i said i would like to score with her, i really meant was i consider her as someone i would like to marry in the long term.

So i hope this info is helpful. if you have any more detailed advice it would be helpful. Thanks.

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It sounds as if you are well beyond the “getting to know each other” phase.

You might try a light “1 spray to chest” touch of ammo. Maybe just that for a first exposure. That might be enough to start her thinking.

Then on a subsequent date, after the first exposure has had time to marinate in her unconscious, start out wearing the same 1 spray of ammo. If she responds well to things like a touch on the hand, then excuse yourself and add 1 spray of Turn Up The Heat. Don’t do it unless you are already getting a response though. If she appears uncomfortable do not add the TUTH. It has the potential to make things worse if she is not feeling attracted.

I’d advise going slowly. Make the objective to delight rather than coerce. Give her time to think about what she has experienced (smelled) between the times you see each other. Go slowly, and if it is meant to be it may get better and better.

This is just a suggestion. Others may have some suggestions for you too.

Please let us know how things turn out.

Edit - another thought

Another strategy would be to use 2 drops of a314 in place of the 1 spray of ammo, but otherwise keep the strategy the same. A314 will give more of a high-value appearance, ammo more of a sexual appearance. You mentioned sometimes she treats you as unimportant so the a314 may help modify your status in her eyes. You could even combine the 2 drops a314 and 1 spray ammo as a base without much problem. You should judge, a314, ammo, or a314 + ammo based on what you know of your relationship so far.

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No offense to you…
But your acting like a wussy…
And she can see it…And its ruining your chances with her…
Trust me on this one!!!

Pheros just might do the trick,for a little while.
But honestly dont rely on it for your Miracle Love Conquests…

You need to back off.

“Give her the Gift of Missing You”.

No more 3 hour convo’s on the phone.
No more Text Msg Games.
No more wuss behavior…Period.
Your giving her too much information for FREE!

Have more fun with her..Tease her..ALOT!!!
Bust her balls for liking you sooo much(even if you think she doesnt)
Have fun…And dont ever ask her permission for ANYTHING!!!..But DO ask her opinion.
Make the rules…And then decide when to break them in your favor…

Lay low on the compliments,and dont treat her like she is your GirlFriend.(Because she isn’t your girlfriend).

The next "Date"You go on should be where you wanna go,and when it comes time to pay…She pays her half…And you pay yours.
Grab her hand…and then say to her…“OMG you just totally grabbed my hand..SLow down!! I dont even know you that well and your grabbing my hand”…
Do you get what im saying here?Tease the Hell outa this girl.

Dont try to impress her because its manipulative…

And my friend…if a woman smells manipulation,you have already lost…

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You forgot the part where she dumps his ass for acting like a PUA. Do you really think women are so stupid. We have all the same access to these tricks as men, probably more so because women talk to there girl friends about this subject and we see it coming. It works on women who are looking to get laid but not on women who want more then that.

Oh and by the way a little teasing is fun but excessive teasing comes off as a man with low self esteem and just plain annoying to most women and “The Gift of Missing you” in the beginning of a relationship translates to lack of interest. Find a good balance with the attention thing not to much not to little.

I am not saying PUA tactics dont work like I said they do on women who are looking for that sort of thing. PUA’s can be a load of fun but when we start to look for a relationship its not the PUA we go for.

HABI if your thinking of spending the rest of your life with this person the most important thing is to be yourself and be honest. Go with gone with the winds advice on pheromones and maybe add some shine for fun.

Tisha

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Thank you…things are getting clearer… I was wondering if more ladies can provide their opinions in the matter…

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Good advice, tisha.

Though I’d say a nice bit of light verbally teasing her would be great if she likes joking for instance. Eg she’s afraid you’ll take her for a 4 mile walk (when it’s just a few steps away), hint that you’ll take her for a 4 mile walk like she’s suspecting… tell her you’re joking though.. or laugh…

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O.k Lil Miss Tisha…Have you ever dated a girl,Or Young woman…???
Probably not.And If you have…I guarantee it diddnt last long ,Cause if you did,you would understand where I am comming from.

First of all..YES..I believe in a ballance between teasing,and smartass cocky,but Funny remarks..I never said excessive teasing(Thank you very much Tisha)
As far as “Tricks” are concerned..You are way off point…
I actually said NO MANIPULATION!!!
Buying her things and constantly giving compliments especially in the beginning is Manipulation…And you know this!(Tisha) But most men dont.

If you actually read what I am really saying you would realize “Its Creating Attraction in a Woman”..That is the most important thing!
Why would he take her out to Fancy Dinners,and lavish her with compliments,
When he doesnt even stand out as the “Alph Male” in her eyes…
Cause if he was the Alpha Male…She would be all over him,and he never woulda asked for help.

Im not sure what this “PUA” Stands for…

But I do know Habib001 Should NOT ask a womans oppinion on how to meet and act with women…
Basically..Women will tell him what they THINK They want in a man…(and how many women do you know, who actually know what they really want in a man?)
Unfortunately what they “Think” they want in a man fades quickly,and rarely has anything to do with the most important factor in any relationship(ATTRACTION)Without it you have nothing, and with it you can take the relationship to any level you want…

Trust me HABIB001…DONT ASK WOMEN WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT ATTRACTION…Because they just dont know…they will just make you more of a wussy.

And Tisha23..dont step to this…I have done so much research and execution in the matter of creating attraction and relationships that I could be a Doctor…

Remember this:Women are like Volume knobs…Men are like light switches.
Think about it…

Also If she actually does decide to go out with you again(I never would)
Make sure she knows you are there because you chose the place and you wanted to go…and she is there to entertain you as well…Its not just you working alone..She has to work at it too…

Come on Dude…BE The Prize She Wants…

And stop listening to women..Not To say they have bad oppinions…They just dont understand what it is to be the dominant Male they are attracted too…And most of them couldnt tell you exactly why they are attracted to certain types of men…But I know Why…Dont you wanna know too?
YOU Cant Choose who you are attracted too…But you can create it with anyone,anywhere in any situation…

P.s…Im not opposed to buying a girl anything or complimenting her…
What I am opposed too is the mentality most girls will develope when you do it…

Tisha DONT CONFUSE HIM…!

HABIB001 Listen to your male brother…Who could seriously have any girl he wants because he knows how too “CREATE ATTRACTION”

Tisha..Why dont you go out with Habib,Let me know how it goes…
Maybe you too are perfect for eachother…

Habib…Let me know when you want to learn…
And Tisha…I Can teach you how a thing or two about women too…
All you have to do is say please…

Ha..CAPALDI

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Oh I agree Phoenix light teasing is fun but cap suggested teasing her alot and to much of a fun thing sometimes isnt fun anymore. :wink:

Tisha

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I agree. There must be serious open discussion too, not just teasing or too much teasing or too heavy-handed teasing that bothers the person.

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Wow This is getting interesting. … OK…so i tease her (she likes to tease and be teased) and dont compliment her…(cos i did do a lot of that) …shall I ignore her. I did that to her twice and it drove her mad… both occasions she broke the silence.:confused:

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Habib001,

There is a fine line in everything. Too much of a good thing gets cloying, even if she likes to be teased; a sincere compliment every now and then is gold.

Also, giving her a chance to miss you is one thing; ignoring her for no valid reason is quite another. One has limits. Drive pass the line too much and too often, you will gain nothing but pain and perhaps bad reputations.

Think about how you would feel if you are on the receiving end.

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If you see in the end she likes you more after you ignore her a bit, do it again occasionally.

Always try not to keep her on a pedestal, don’t think she’s perfect, nobody really is. Think if it doesn’t work out, you’ll meet somebody else eventually..
Be positive, honest and relaxed in your interactions with her.
Keep your mind chatter to a minimum, don’t start thinking, just do the talking, walking, etc… you will appear more confident to her, eventually that’s how you will be. And she will like you more as a result.

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I think Tisha gave some very insightful advice.

If you want to spend the rest of your life with someone, she had better know you for who you are. If you successfully fool her into thinking that you’re someone you are not, then you lose the contest even if you temporarily think you win.

Of course, this is not to say you can’t do something unusual to spark her interest. However, in the long term you probably won’t change your personality. The best solution for a long-term relationship is to find a person who truly appreciates who you are.

Here’s hoping that she’s that person!

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Also I think it is the case that you can change for the better, and you will be yourself still.

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OK so i have teased her and i have her attention, how do i go in for the kill…i mean get her where i want her…thats to admit she likes and wants to go to the next level…

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Well perhaps you can tell her you’re going somewhere ( a movie etc) and would she like to join you? that’s one idea, getting her into your world, your frame. after the movie though if you go for that, have a coffee with her and discuss the movie etc… you need more time for this but it’s worth it (not everyone likes to discuss movies though).

Or just ask her out again, would you like to continue our discussion over a coffee etc ? I think with pheros she’ll be more eager to do this, at least if she’s being affected more..
good luck